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Tariffs

oneforthebus said:
There's nothing he could do that you wouldn't call brilliant. Even if he tanked the entire economy you'd say it was just a brilliant negotiating technique. Or a great way to reduce inflation.

This back and forth is not good for the market. Market fluctuations don't just affect rich people, they affect investment which affects economic growth which affects jobs. No one's going to build factories here if they don't know what our economic policy is going to be from one week to the next.

He's using a hatchet where a scalpel would work much better.
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Scalpel? Have you not been paying attention since 2016? He doesn’t work that way. He’s a bull in a china shop, which is exactly what this country needs. It seems like you need a bull too.
 
IndySteel said:
Show us your degree from the Wharton School of Business.
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😂 How about an absence of failed businesses and bankruptcies? You have no idea of the privilege the idiot Trump has had. You’re the kid impressed by the kid with a ping pong table who temporarily befriends you until he can find cooler kids to hang with.
 
Troglodyte said:
😂 How about an absence of failed businesses and bankruptcies? You have no idea of the privilege the idiot Trump has had. You’re the kid impressed by the kid with a ping pong table who temporarily befriends you until he can find cooler kids to hang with.
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You might be the most retarded person I’ve ever seen in my life. The scales balance between you and the Tibtard.
 
Apple on Chinese tooling:

 
Steelersreign said:
This is all part of the negotiations, not sure what people are expecting.
This is by far not the end, this is still just the beginning.
has anyone before him gave this kind of effort for the American worker?
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Again, what American worker? Do you know a lot of people who are dying to work in manufacturing plants? People who want to sew clothes or manufacture cheap plastic **** or assemble iPhones? i don’t know any.
 
oneforthebus said:
There's nothing he could do that you wouldn't call brilliant. Even if he tanked the entire economy you'd say it was just a brilliant negotiating technique. Or a great way to reduce inflation.

This back and forth is not good for the market. Market fluctuations don't just affect rich people, they affect investment which affects economic growth which affects jobs. No one's going to build factories here if they don't know what our economic policy is going to be from one week to the next.

He's using a hatchet where a scalpel would work much better.
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He tried things that way the first time around to try to appease people like you. Your group attacked him and tried to undo everything positive he was making happen.

This time he isn’t trying to make this a bi-partisan solution. He is doing what he should have done the first time. If it upsets you and your group so much the better.

Pausing the tariffs is not canceling them, it is bringing those he feels are taking advantage of us to the table. He isn’t trying to be vindictive, just fair. Pausing the tariffs are a good faith move. If a country isn’t serious the pause can be lifted and he gains the high ground.

It is amazing how many of you guys want him to fail no matter how much worse the other outcome will be.
 
As of today, I am 9% better off than I was a week ago. If I hadn’t been so conservative with my stock market plays it could have been closer to 14%. Oh well, no need to get greedy.
 
Assembly. Fabrication. Some Americans will do that if the money is right. No american will do any of that for $30/ day.

All Americans want to do is sit behind a computer screen. Nobody knows how to use a caliper, a hickey, tube bender, torque wrench, hack saw.

School teachers get $63K to 93K around here. Kids can't read or do math. If phones were assembled here people would want those wages.

I know a seamstress . She does excellent work. She alters wedding dresses, etc. Makes a good living. That size 3 dress in the window needs a lot of alterations to fit that size 22 american woman.
 
oneforthebus said:
Again, what American worker? Do you know a lot of people who are dying to work in manufacturing plants? People who want to sew clothes or manufacture cheap plastic **** or assemble iPhones? i don’t know any.
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Alot of my family and friends and the people I know in a southwestern, PA county where raised on these jobs, sewing, paper manufacturing and more.
And it is and was great life.
Democrats already took the coal jobs away, manufacturing, power plants and now they are going after the oil fields.

Democrats are not liked in this area
 
oneforthebus said:
Again, what American worker? Do you know a lot of people who are dying to work in manufacturing plants? People who want to sew clothes or manufacture cheap plastic **** or assemble iPhones? i don’t know any.
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Nonsense. People will do anything if the money is right. Look at the thousands of men and women debasing themselves on Only Fans daily and then running to TikTok to brag about it. Americans will do anything for money.
 
Since covid people do not want to work. We are lucky if 1/5 people even show up for their interview and this is across all departments. Then you have people show up for the interview not even remembering what they applied for. There are also ones who apply for RNs or LPNs and when you ask for their nursing license are like "oh I didn't know you needed one of those. " I can't picture a bunch of people lining up to work in factories. If they make high wages the price of items will skyrocket. People complain about fast food workers making $15 / hr and prices going up, the same thing is going to happen across the board. It will be better in the long run as we won't be supporting Chinas slave labor and we will be more self sufficient in the long run. i just don't know if we can fill the jobs and if people are going to pay much higher prices for items.
 
Steelersreign said:
This is all part of the negotiations, not sure what people are expecting.
This is by far not the end, this is still just the beginning.
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Therein lies the problem. The market doesn’t like uncertainty and won’t do well as long as it exists.
Steelersreign said:
has anyone before him gave this kind of effort for the American worker?
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The unemployment rate was great under Biden, hope it stays that way.
 
Sarge said:
Nonsense. People will do anything if the money is right. Look at the thousands of men and women debasing themselves on Only Fans daily and then running to TikTok to brag about it. Americans will do anything for money.
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Only Fans people make a lot more money and work a lot less hard than factory workers.
 
MT~Forged said:
He tried things that way the first time around to try to appease people like you. Your group attacked him and tried to undo everything positive he was making happen.

This time he isn’t trying to make this a bi-partisan solution. He is doing what he should have done the first time. If it upsets you and your group so much the better.

Pausing the tariffs is not canceling them, it is bringing those he feels are taking advantage of us to the table. He isn’t trying to be vindictive, just fair. Pausing the tariffs are a good faith move. If a country isn’t serious the pause can be lifted and he gains the high ground.

It is amazing how many of you guys want him to fail no matter how much worse the other outcome will be.
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I don’t know what you mean by “my group”. I voted for him, don’t like him but the alternative was way worse. I just don’t blindly worship everything he does. Some of what he’s doing I’m all for. This tariff business is stupid. Want to renegotiate trade deals? Fine. Do it like a big boy not a spoiled toddler. Making international trade policy on the fly on twitter isn’t the way. Making our allies and their citizens hate us is not a good long term strategy for anything.
He made a huge blunder and then was forced to correct it. I’m glad he finally listened to people who know what they’re doing. I’m just not gonna pretend like it was some brilliant successful ploy.
 
Steelersreign said:
Alot of my family and friends and the people I know in a southwestern, PA county where raised on these jobs, sewing, paper manufacturing and more.
And it is and was great life.
Democrats already took the coal jobs away, manufacturing, power plants and now they are going after the oil fields.

Democrats are not liked in this area
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It was a great life, but it’s unfortunately probably not coming back due to the country’s addiction to cheap consumer goods. Just one example: https://www.kqed.org/lowdown/7939/madeinamerica
And I mean even if we all agreed we want a massive sea change back to the way things were, it would take decades and be an extremely painful transition from an economic sense.
 
Troglodyte said:
Therein lies the problem. The market doesn’t like uncertainty and won’t do well as long as it exists.

The unemployment rate was great under Biden, hope it stays that way.
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Yes most people know there is uncertainty, to me it is worth the risk. Millions of families where and are affected by our jobs going to other counties.
 
oneforthebus said:
Again, what American worker? Do you know a lot of people who are dying to work in manufacturing plants? People who want to sew clothes or manufacture cheap plastic **** or assemble iPhones? i don’t know any.
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Well, just my thought, but perhaps those now working fast food and trying to make a living on an entry level job because that's all that's available.
 
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