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Fauci pleading the fifth

fedderone said:
Responding to pandemics is challenging, and many countries struggled to manage the COVID‐19 crisis (Boin et al., 2021). It is also important to recognize that not all of the problems of the US response can be laid at the feet of President Trump. As we showed above, the CDC's initial testing failures resulted from institutional ills that were independent of the president, and the pandemic revealed dysfunction and institutional rot at the CDC and FDA that predated the Trump Administration (Gottlieb, 2021). However, despite favorable circumstances—sufficient early warning, substantial capacity, a venerable center for disease control and prevention, vast resources, high‐quality laboratories, and world‐leading scientific expertise—the Trump Administration demonstrated incompetence in responding to and managing the SARS‐CoV‐2 outbreak.

Because Trump is the president, obviously the buck stops with him. No disputing that.
But I ask - Trump did or did not listen to Fraudci and implement each of his recommendations?
Can't have it both ways.
This is the ol' giving a monkey a gun scenario.
Do you blame the monkey for killing someone, or the person who gave the monkey the gun?
If Trump followed ALL of Fraudci's advice, who's actually to blame?
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Bingo.
Remember it like it was yesterday. Trump had been relaying to the public Fauci’s analysis /recommendations, only to be constantly criticized and second guessed. Orange man bad.
Now Fauci is good and Orange man still bad.
 
Ron Burgundy said:
He conveniently ignores the fact that Sen. Paul is a medical doctor. His opinions don’t count though since he’s not a Democrat.
It’s like told someone on FB the other day, just be honest and say you hate Republicans and don’t make up bull**** to back your opinion.
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He’s an ophthalmologist, not a virologist, immunologist, epidemiologist, pediatrician, family medicine or infectious disease doc.
 
Confluence said:
Has little to do with understanding how drug approval works. Why do you think those within the pharma supply chain are somehow more able to understand than others?
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Has everything to do with understanding the efficacy of drugs and dealing with a pandemic.
Confluence said:
Does this mean that you are a janitor or that a Deoartment chair hosts a lunch'nlearn once a quarter? Does he bring in the scientists who authored the study for discussions about RCTs ?
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It means I’m present in Ops meetings when they create a policy terminating patients because their parents refused the MMR vaccine, or when they mock patients who share what they’ve learned from internet “research”, or when they discuss idiotic front office staff who wore anti-vax message pins and how they will be disciplined.
Confluence said:
put that list right here please.
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It’s in my posts including their Instagram.
Confluence said:
Feels like much of the world is against you again huh? Perhaps you should open your mind.
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The retarded MAGA world, yes.
 
oneforthebus said:
The mandates are what undermined it. I firmly believe had they been recommended and not mandated things would have been a lot different.
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So adapt the policy so people won’t be spiteful of it? Maybe they should just grow the **** up.
oneforthebus said:
But it was Fauci who initially told people not to wear masks. Then tried to force everyone to wear them. With ridiculous rules like you could take them off while eating and drinking but had to have them on otherwise. Walking through a restaurant, must wear masks. Sitting at the table, you’re fine to take it off. Closing local businesses but letting big chains stay open. 6 feet apart, based on nothing. Arrows on store aisles pointing which direction you could walk. Nancy Pelosi famously getting her hair done while no one else was allowed to. Even a child could tell how ludicrous it all was, most of it with no scientific basis at all and constantly changing. In the end pretty much everyone got covid. It was all for nothing.
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We’ve been through how contagious diseases and science work..
oneforthebus said:
There’s plenty of pandemic blame to go around, in hindsight things could have been done better but the outcome probably wouldn’t have changed that much. Rarely does Trump get any credit for getting some massive things accomplished.
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Why? The outcomes were different for other countries.
 
I remember in the 1990s reading a book called "Full Disclosure: The truth about the AIDS epidemic" by Dr Gary Glum. He talked about the Olympians aka elites and virology's connections to eugenics and Cold Spring Harbor, NY and ultimately Ft Detrick, Md. Two ideas still stand out, and the first was referencing the quote by Lord Bertrand Russell that "truly enlightened people are indifferent to the suffering of others." The second was the statement to the effect that "just as it was inevitable that once scientists split the atom a weapon capable of killing every man, woman, and child on the earth would be created, so too was it inevitable that once scientists learned how to manipulate on the molecular level that viruses capable of killing every man, woman, and child on earth would also be created." In effect, just as there was an arms race with nuclear weapons so too there was also an arms race with biological weapons.

HIV had some collateral damage with victims such as Ryan White, but by and large the virus targeted promiscuous homosexuals and drug users mostly in the black community. When Covid was revealed to primarily attack older people and those with "comorbidities" it was not hard to see the same handiwork and Anthony Fauci at the center of both epidemics as the face of public policy.

They spun all kinds of yarns back then such as HIV coming from Rhesus monkeys. Stevie Wonder could also have seen Bill Gates as one the truly enlightened people and "indifferent to the suffering of others."

I don't see how there was ever a question that all of this did not come straight from the pit of hell after HIV. Or maybe people really do think HIV just accidentally and spontaneously erupted in Africa, Brazil, Haiti, and San Francisco just like Kings County, WA, Queens, NY and The Diamond Princess and Grand Princess Cruise ships with unveiling Covid to America with the split screen death trackers and plunging DOW. They love the hell out of the symbolism and mocking the masses like that.
 
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Troglodyte said:
He’s an ophthalmologist, not a virologist, immunologist, epidemiologist, pediatrician, family medicine or infectious disease doc.
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This coming from the retard that said MD > DO, and dismissed DOs as snake oil salesmen.
Even in your own statement above, some of those specialists are going to be more an expert than others, depending on the specific affliction.
But all these people went to a medical school and got a medical degree and did interning and then did their specialized medicine and than began practicing.
You're sounding dumber than normal today.
This Fraudci stuff coming to light REALLY has you frazzled, almost like your reality is collapsing around you.
As if EVERYTHING you held near and dear and parroted for the last few years is disappearing like farts in the wind.
 
Troglodyte said:
Has everything to do with understanding the efficacy of drugs and dealing with a pandemic.

It means I’m present in Ops meetings when they create a policy terminating patients because their parents refused the MMR vaccine, or when they mock patients who share what they’ve learned from internet “research”, or when they discuss idiotic front office staff who wore anti-vax message pins and how they will be disciplined.

It’s in my posts including their Instagram.

The retarded MAGA world, yes.
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I want the name of your "company" or healthcare system you work for please.
Being 100% serious and not facetious.
 
fedderone said:
This Fraudci stuff coming to light REALLY has you frazzled, almost like your reality is collapsing around you.
As if EVERYTHING you held near and dear and parroted for the last few years is disappearing like farts in the wind.
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fedderone said:
This coming from the retard that said MD > DO, and dismissed DOs as snake oil salesmen.
Even in your own statement above, some of those specialists are going to be more an expert than others, depending on the specific affliction.
But all these people went to a medical school and got a medical degree and did interning and then did their specialized medicine and than began practicing.
You're sounding dumber than normal today.
This Fraudci stuff coming to light REALLY has you frazzled, almost like your reality is collapsing around you.
As if EVERYTHING you held near and dear and parroted for the last few years is disappearing like farts in the wind.
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Pharmacology, Pharmacognosy and pharmacokinetics are sprinkled through the curriculum in the typical medical school training.
Screaming doctor, doctor when discussing a medication, or in this case a quasi-vaccine is laughable.
Only goes to show the town crier shouting oyez, oyez, oyez knows not of what he speaks.
 
I’ll just leave this here

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In 2020 everyone was freaked out about the Wu-flu because the general public as well as medical professionals had no idea what they were dealing with.
The fact that Katie Miller consulted with Fauci shouldn't be a shock to anyone.

Back to doctor, doctor, doctor, although I haven't practiced in almost 8 years now, in 2015 I headed the anti-coagulation and diabetes education program for one of the largest, if not the largest, health care organization in the Phoenix metro area. Physicians came to me as well as other members of the clinical pharmacy team on rotation regarding therapy treatment for their patients.

Physicians are great at assessing, diagnosing and in some cases a steady hand with a scalpel. But you can take it to the bank when I say their knowledge of pharmaceuticals and their mechanism of action in most cases is limited, getting much of it from sales reps in short skirts.

Proclaiming political medical organizations and health care systems that profit from a particular ideology as gospel is at best insane.
 
Steelmann said:
My dad would say ……never stick your dick in crazy or hairdressers. He thought hairdressers were all bat-**** crazy.
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How did he know? Just askin'
Back in the mid-70's when I was at Pitt, there was a girl, Nancy, that lived in the apartment building next door.
Nancy was going to cosmetology school, and I didn't follow your Dad's advice, but yes, she was crazy but in a good way.
 
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ZonaBurgh said:
In 2020 everyone was freaked out about the Wu-flu because the general public as well as medical professionals had no idea what they were dealing with.
The fact that Katie Miller consulted with Fauci shouldn't be a shock to anyone.
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Yeah, but apparently everyone stopped reading at a certain point in the article.....?

Katie told NOTUS, “He was not my doctor. He was not my friend. He was a work colleague who called me for work purposes, and in the course of a phone call, you would discuss other things.”
“I understood who he was, and I understood how to manage somebody like him,” added the now-podcaster who gave birth to her fourth child in June. She claimed she was friendly with Fauci only so that he “did not leak against me or my husband.”
 
ZonaBurgh said:
In 2020 everyone was freaked out about the Wu-flu because the general public as well as medical professionals had no idea what they were dealing with.
The fact that Katie Miller consulted with Fauci shouldn't be a shock to anyone.

Back to doctor, doctor, doctor, although I haven't practiced in almost 8 years now, in 2015 I headed the anti-coagulation and diabetes education program for one of the largest, if not the largest, health care organization in the Phoenix metro area. Physicians came to me as well as other members of the clinical pharmacy team on rotation regarding therapy treatment for their patients.

Physicians are great at assessing, diagnosing and in some cases a steady hand with a scalpel. But you can take it to the bank when I say their knowledge of pharmaceuticals and their mechanism of action in most cases is limited, getting much of it from sales reps in short skirts.

Proclaiming political medical organizations and health care systems that profit from a particular ideology as gospel is at best insane.
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There's another seismic issue from the fallout and that's the medical establishment's role in going along with the scam and its protocols that condemned so many to die and suffer. The vaccine was always going to be the prescribed solution before this even started and the system ran with it and bowed the knee and yet they want our trust as so-called experts and authorities.

Medicine has a place but most of the system is simply there to prescribe pharmaceuticals, cut, inject, or scan and treat the cash cow of chronic conditions with mostly paralyzing groupthink at this stage save the remnant of doctors who truly promote and care about actual health and the body healing itself. Doctors were supposed to ask questions and be the critical and empirical-based thinkers in the room.

When cholesterol and BP numbers keep moving down where virtually everyone over 50 "should" be on a med and it's on the patient to ask to dig deeper into primary causes like inflammation then it's not hard to see what's driving the system.

Carroll Quigley in his book Tragedy and Hope lamented that professions such as Medicine and Law were historically the domain of people of a more aristocratic bent or noblesse oblige mentality before the aspiring middle class invaded the professions as the ticket to upward mobility and acquisitiveness in society. Going along to get along and not biting the hand that feeds come to mind.
 
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Troglodyte said:
Has everything to do with understanding the efficacy of drugs and dealing with a pandemic.

It means I’m present in Ops meetings when they create a policy terminating patients because their parents refused the MMR vaccine, or when they mock patients who share what they’ve learned from internet “research”, or when they discuss idiotic front office staff who wore anti-vax message pins and how they will be disciplined.

It’s in my posts including their Instagram.

The retarded MAGA world, yes.
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Wow.

Thanks for displaying your contempt for anyone who does not suck the coock of big pharma and health insurance companies.

You, your colleagues and the profiteering scams they call "business" explain why America Healthcare is the most expensive and has the worst record in the western world.

You literally do not understand efficacy, informed consent, individual rights or Healthcare.

What a pFucking miserable lizard you are.
 
Fauci got a full pre-emptive pardon from Biden, so nothing will happen with his mouth closed, or even if he opens it.
It would be interesting to see some pressure on his cohort, Dr. Brix who was not afforded the protection Fauci received.
 
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