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Covid Vaccine

ZonaBurgh said:
The people that still support Fauci and the rushed to market, limited benefit mRNA product after 6+ years of information do so because they aren't capable of admitting that they might have been wrong about any of it. To do that, in their mind, would be perceived as weakness and an affront to their ideology and yet still publicly state that everything done during the "pandemic" was done to perfection.

I will admit we had no idea what we were dealing with when the virus was first released and the measures taken then seemed justified given the circumstances, but science isn't stagnant and many of the protocols initiated then have been proven useless.

And make no mistake, the vast majority of Fauci supporters are of the liberal persuasion, that would fall on their sword rather than concede anything.

Sad, that those that screamed follow the science the loudest are now ignoring it.
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You forgot to mention the intentionality, malice, pFraud, societal controls, punishments, persecution, suffering, personal, emotional and financial losses that went along with this pFauci pFlu.

And the deaths from not providing simple drugs, from very wrong protocols and for corrupt and pFraudulent products foisted on the people.
 
Confluence said:
You forgot to mention the intentionality, malice, pFraud, societal controls, punishments, persecution, suffering, personal, emotional and financial losses that went along with this pFauci pFlu.

And the deaths from not providing simple drugs, from very wrong protocols and for corrupt and pFraudulent products foisted on the people.
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The measures I meant to imply were the masks, social distancing, common sense hygiene, not the get the jab or lose your livelihood, or be the last served when seeking help at the ER. The control attitude came on pretty quickly.
 
A “critical thnker” vs a doctor who actually knows what he’s talking about.

 
IndySteel said:
I’m 55. I’m not ever getting vaxxed for anything. I’ll kill whatever it is with Ivermectin and vodka.
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Well, I'm certainly not what the tards call an antivaxxer, but do respect your right as an adult to choose what you put in your own body.

I am however skeptical that Moderna is unveiling a new mRNA flu vaccine for those 50 to 65. No data on 65+ so they'll be using that group as test subjects, which is one more reason it won't be flowing through my veins, so one less dollar for them. I do believe the annual flu vaccine, when the strain is predicted accurately, is beneficial to many.

Meanwhile, the resident libtard diverts to tetanus, and a vaccine that is a responsible choice, but twists it to fit his dance card. Might as well do polio next, if you're not going to discuss the Fauci product for the virus that he helped create.
 
its not like the receipts were out there for us to look at.

 
We were ridiculed for saying the vaccines were harming pregnant women.

Right again, confirmed by the good Dr. himself in his own texts.

Just wait we said.

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Tim Steelersfan said:
We were ridiculed for saying the vaccines were harming pregnant women.

Right again, confirmed by the good Dr. himself in his own texts.

Just wait we said.

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and if men can get pregnant, and play in the wnba, then we can all be pregnant and die from the vaccine.

you know, using the same logic the Left used to get people to inject themselves with this shiite muslim.
 
Tim Steelersfan said:
We were ridiculed for saying the vaccines were harming pregnant women.

Right again, confirmed by the good Dr. himself in his own texts.

Just wait we said.

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Not defending Fauci, as he should have been honest about even theoretical risks. But follow up studies show the rates of miscarriage in vaccinated women are aligned with normal rates of miscarriage.
 
oneforthebus said:
Not defending Fauci, as he should have been honest about even theoretical risks. But follow up studies show the rates of miscarriage in vaccinated women are aligned with normal rates of miscarriage.
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"We were ridiculed for saying the vaccines were harming pregnant women."

There was concern. The MSM, Fauci, the news media, people here - all said - don't question the science. People were silenced for raising questions.

Fauci himself questioned the vaccine's effects on women AT THE TIME while the rest of us were ridiculed for asking the very same questions he had (now that we know) at the time.

You're right. He should have AT THE TIME been honest about the theoretical risks.
 
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Where the 82% Figure Came From
The statistic originated from a viral misinterpretation of a preliminary safety study published in the New England Journal of Medicine (NEJM) by Shimabukuro et al. [1, 2, 3, 4]
    • The Original Data: The study tracked 3,958 pregnant participants. At the time of publication, 827 of these participants had completed their pregnancies, resulting in 712 live births and 115 pregnancy losses (a normal overall rate of 13.9%). [1, 2]
    • The Mathematical Error: Online blogs excluded the 700+ women who were vaccinated later in pregnancy and had already safely given birth. They divided the 104 miscarriages that occurred before 20 weeks by only the 127 women who had completed their pregnancies within that specific early timeframe. [1, 2]
    • The Flawed Logic: Because the study was published early in the vaccine rollout, the vast majority of women vaccinated in their first or second trimesters were still pregnant and had not yet reached their due dates. Calculating a miscarriage rate by omitting ongoing, healthy pregnancies is a severe statistical flaw. [1, 2]
 
Tim Steelersfan said:
"We were ridiculed for saying the vaccines were harming pregnant women."

There was concern. The MSM, Fauci, the news media, people here - all said - don't question the science. People were silenced for raising questions.

Fauci himself questioned the vaccine's effects on women AT THE TIME while the rest of us were ridiculed for asking the the very same questions he had (now that we know) at the time.

You're right. He should have AT THE TIME been honest about the theoretical risks.
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Yes he should have. I’m agreeing with you. I’m referring to the fact that because of this email where he posits a theoretical risk that never materialized, people online are tossing around a statistically flawed study to try and claim the vaccine caused high rates of miscarriage. It didn’t. It’s horrible to try and convince women who experienced pregnancy loss that the vaccine killed their babies, but anti-vaxxers never miss a good chance to take a kernel of truth (there was a possible theoretical risk they should have been informed of) and spew misinformation.
Meanwhile, covid itself posed a greater risk to pregnant women. So a theoretical risk of the vaccine had to be weighed against potential protection from higher rates of severe illness, ICU admission, blood clots and pneumonia that were actually occurring in pregnant women with covid infection.

 
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