So #TrumpVirus is the #1 trending topic on Twitter? What a cesspool of deranged people.
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As long as Trump is President, there would never be a "response" that would make his haters happy. None. Tibs knows that in his heart and denies it.
Obviously, our response was a lot better than Italy's.
Every administration gets blamed for this **** and there really is not much you can do but hand it over to the experts (and Pence WILL do that) and cross your fingers.
It's ludicrous to make this any more or less of this issue than that. Europe, because or Italy, is now the guinea pig to watch how bad it gets in western cultures that aren't as ****** up and overpopulated like Asia. We will learn from them. As with all these types of viruses, survival rates in Europe and America will be very, very high and 95% of casualties will end up being in Asia, Africa and ***-backward places with poor healthcare, uneducated populations that continue to take risky actions, and totalitarian governments that want to cover up these facts.
I blame China and their neanderthal meat markets which catch/buy/sell/eat rare and endangered and deep jungle wildlife. Most of the time because of voodoo science and snake oil promises of health. ******* idiots. You'd think southeast Asia and China would finally wake up and realize ground up Rhino horns don't make your **** bigger but I guess that's too much to ask.
Obviously, our response was a lot better than Italy's.
Every administration gets blamed for this **** and there really is not much you can do but hand it over to the experts (and Pence WILL do that) and cross your fingers.
It's ludicrous to make this any more or less of this issue than that. Europe, because or Italy, is now the guinea pig to watch how bad it gets in western cultures that aren't as ****** up and overpopulated like Asia. We will learn from them. As with all these types of viruses, survival rates in Europe and America will be very, very high and 95% of casualties will end up being in Asia, Africa and ***-backward places with poor healthcare, uneducated populations that continue to take risky actions, and totalitarian governments that want to cover up these facts.
I blame China and their neanderthal meat markets which catch/buy/sell/eat rare and endangered and deep jungle wildlife. Most of the time because of voodoo science and snake oil promises of health. ******* idiots. You'd think southeast Asia and China would finally wake up and realize ground up Rhino horns don't make your **** bigger but I guess that's too much to ask.
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I am not seeing this higher mortality rate in western countries, China has **** health practices and according to this an extremely high rate of smoking among men making the comparison of fatality rates almost meaningless to western societies. I am seeing a higher communicablity but a higher survival for healthy people with decent care.
https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/hea...ronavirus/coronavirus-disease-2019-vs-the-flu
Coronavirus Disease 2019 vs. the Flu
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Infectious Diseases
Reviewed By:
Lisa Lockerd Maragakis, M.D., M.P.H.
Influenza (“the flu”) and COVID-19, the illness caused by the new coronavirus, are both infectious respiratory illnesses. Although the symptoms of COVID-19 and the flu can look similar, the two illnesses are caused by different viruses.
As of Feb. 26, 2020, the flu is showing much more of an impact on Americans than COVID-19. You can find up-to-date information on COVID-19 at the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC).
Lisa Maragakis, M.D., M.P.H., senior director of infection prevention at Johns Hopkins, explains how the flu and COVID-19 are similar and how they are different.
Similarities: COVID-19 and the Flu
Symptoms
Both cause fever, cough, body aches, fatigue; sometimes vomiting and diarrhea.
Can be mild or severe, even fatal in rare cases.
Can result in pneumonia.
Transmission
Both can be spread from person to person through droplets in the air from an infected person coughing, sneezing or talking.
A possible difference: COVID-19 might be spread through the airborne route (see details below under Differences).
Flu can be spread by an infected person for several days before their symptoms appear, and COVID-19 is believed to be spread in the same manner, but we don’t yet know for sure.
Treatment
Neither virus is treatable with antibiotics, which only work on bacterial infections.
Both may be treated by addressing symptoms, such as reducing fever. Severe cases may require hospitalization and support such as mechanical ventilation.
Prevention
Both may be prevented by frequent, thorough hand washing, coughing into the crook of your elbow, staying home when sick and limiting contact with people who are infected.
Differences: COVID-19 and the Flu
Cause
COVID-19: Caused by one virus, the novel 2019 coronavirus, now called severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2, or SARS-CoV-2.
Flu: Caused by any of several different types and strains of influenza viruses.
Transmission
While both the flu and COVID-19 may be transmitted in similar ways (see the Similarities section above), there is also a possible difference: COVID-19 might be spread through the airborne route, meaning that tiny droplets remaining in the air could cause disease in others even after the ill person is no longer near.
Antiviral Medications
COVID-19: Antiviral medications are currently being tested to see if they can address symptoms.
Flu: Antiviral medications can address symptoms and sometimes shorten the duration of the illness.
Vaccine
COVID-19: No vaccine is available at this time, though it is in progress.
Flu: A vaccine is available and effective to prevent some of the most dangerous types or to reduce the severity of the flu.
Infections
COVID-19: Approximately 81,322 cases worldwide; 59 cases in the U.S. as of Feb. 26, 2020.
Flu: Estimated 1 billion cases worldwide; 9.3 million to 45 million cases in the U.S. per year.
Deaths
COVID-19: Approximately 2,770 deaths reported worldwide; 0 deaths in the U.S., as of Feb. 26, 2020.
Flu: 291,000 to 646,000 deaths worldwide; 12,000 to 61,000 deaths in the U.S. per year.
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/c...tients-fare-much-worse-than-others-2020-02-26
Coronavirus fatality rates vary wildly depending on age, gender and medical history — some patients fare much worse than others
Published: Feb 27, 2020 4:47 a.m. ET
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A new paper published in JAMA reviews a China-based sample of 72,000 COVID-19 cases, which suggests dramatic variations in the death rate of the illness
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No deaths occurred in those aged 9 years and younger, but cases in those aged 70 to 79 years had an 8% fatality rate and those aged 80 years and older had a fatality rate of 14.8%, according to a study of Chinese coronavirus cases released this week.
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As the coronavirus spreads, scientists are learning more about the disease’s fatality rate.
The medical journal JAMA released a paper this week analyzing data from the Chinese Center for Disease Control and Prevention on 72,314 coronavirus cases in mainland China, the figure as of Feb. 11, the largest such sample in a study of this kind.
The sample’s overall case-fatality rate was 2.3%, higher than World Health Organization official 0.7% rate. No deaths occurred in those aged 9 years and younger, but cases in those aged 70 to 79 years had an 8% fatality rate and those aged 80 years and older had a fatality rate of 14.8%.
No deaths were reported among mild and severe cases. The fatality rate was 49% among critical cases, and elevated among those with preexisting conditions: 10.5% for people with cardiovascular disease, 7.3% for diabetes, 6.3% for chronic respiratory disease, 6% for hypertension, and 5.6% for cancer.
The fatality rate was 49% among critical cases and worsened by those with preexisting conditions.
The latest China-based study, which was not peer-reviewed by U.S. scientists, found that men had a fatality rate of 2.8% versus 1.7% for women. Some doctors have said that women may have a stronger immune system as a genetic advantage to help babies during pregnancy.
The Chinese study is likely not representative of what might happen if the global spread of the virus worsens, particularly as regards gender. In China, nearly half of men smoke cigarettes versus 2% of women, which could be one reason for the gender disparity.
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There were 81,191 confirmed cases of COVID-19 and at least 2,768 deaths as of Wednesday, according to a tally published by the Johns Hopkins Whiting School of Engineering’s Centers for Systems Science and Engineering. There are more than 440 cases in Northern Italy.
On Thursday, China’s National Health Commission said there were 433 new confirmed cases of coronavirus and 29 more deaths as of Wednesday, bringing the total number of cases in that country to 78,497, and the total number of deaths there to 2,744.
Also Thursday, South Korea reported 334 new cases, bringing that country’s total number of cases to 1,595; Denmark and Estonia also confirmed their first cases of the novel coronavirus. Meanwhile, Brazil confirmed its first case of coronavirus late Wednesday.
A man in California tested positive, bringing the total number of confirmed cases in the U.S. to 60, the Centers of Disease Prevention and Control said on Wednesday evening. He is the first case in the U.S that had not traveled to any known countries where the virus has spread.
The fatality rate of the novel coronavirus so far appears to be a fraction of that of Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome (9.6%) and Middle East respiratory syndrome (34.4%). The fatality rate can affect how fast an outbreak spreads: If people die from an illness sooner, they are less likely to be working, shopping or flying on airplanes and, thus, less likely to spread the virus.
“COVID-19 rapidly spread from a single city to the entire country in just 30 days,” the JAMA paper added. “The sheer speed of both the geographical expansion and the sudden increase in numbers of cases surprised and quickly overwhelmed health and public-health services in China.”
The World Health Organization said on Monday that the fatality rate in Wuhan, China, considered the epicenter of the outbreak, is between 2% and 4%. Outside of Wuhan, it is thought to be closer to 0.7%.
Recommended: This is how the illness has spread across the world so rapidly
The majority of illnesses and deaths are in Hubei Province where Wuhan — believed to be the epicenter of the outbreak — is located. The illness has spread to more than 40 countries or territories. (WHO has declared a global health emergency.)
While the outbreak has largely affected China — China’s Hubei Province has reported 94% of total deaths and mainland China has 96% of total cases — the emergence of COVID-19 clusters in these other countries has spooked markets this week, Johns Hopkins said.
Coronavirus has an incubation period of up to two weeks, helping the virus to spread. A previous study published in JAMA suggests some patients may be more contagious than others. One patient spread the virus to at least 10 health-care workers and four patients at a hospital in Wuhan.
‘The sheer speed of both the geographical expansion and the sudden increase in numbers of cases surprised and quickly overwhelmed health and public-health services in China.’
“In this single-center case series of 138 hospitalized patients with confirmed novel coronavirus–infected pneumonia in Wuhan, China, presumed hospital-related transmission of 2019-nCoV was suspected in 41% of patients, 26% of patients received ICU care, and [the] mortality was 4.3%.”
SARS had a fatality rate of 9.6%. “The incubation period for SARS is typically 2 to 7 days, although in some cases it may be as long as 10 days,” the CDC said at the time. “In a very small proportion of cases, incubation periods of up to 14 days have been reported.”
Maciej Boni, an associate professor of biology, at Pennsylvania State University, wrote in the online science magazine LiveScience that the 2009 H1N1 flu pandemic initially overestimated the final fatality rate, while the SARS fatality rate rose as the virus spread.
Initially, scientists estimated a fatality rate of 7%. “However, the initially reported information of 850 cases was a gross underestimate,” Boni wrote. “This was simply due to a much larger number of mild cases that did not report to any health system and were not counted.”
“After several months — when pandemic data had been collected from many countries experiencing an epidemic wave — the 2009 influenza turned out to be much milder than was thought in the initial weeks. Its case fatality was lower than 0.1% and in line with other known human influenza viruses.”
“Every now and then a disease becomes so dangerous that it kills the host,” Matan Shelomi, an entomologist and assistant professor at National Taiwan University, wrote on Quora in 2017. But, ideally for the host at least, it must strike a balance.
“If the disease is able to spread to another host before the first host dies, then it is not too lethal to exist. Evolution cannot make it less lethal so long as it can still spread,” he added. “If a hypothetical disease eradicates its only host, both will indeed go extinct.”
https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/hea...ronavirus/coronavirus-disease-2019-vs-the-flu
Coronavirus Disease 2019 vs. the Flu
Facebook Twitter Linkedin Pinterest Print
Infectious Diseases
Reviewed By:
Lisa Lockerd Maragakis, M.D., M.P.H.
Influenza (“the flu”) and COVID-19, the illness caused by the new coronavirus, are both infectious respiratory illnesses. Although the symptoms of COVID-19 and the flu can look similar, the two illnesses are caused by different viruses.
As of Feb. 26, 2020, the flu is showing much more of an impact on Americans than COVID-19. You can find up-to-date information on COVID-19 at the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC).
Lisa Maragakis, M.D., M.P.H., senior director of infection prevention at Johns Hopkins, explains how the flu and COVID-19 are similar and how they are different.
Similarities: COVID-19 and the Flu
Symptoms
Both cause fever, cough, body aches, fatigue; sometimes vomiting and diarrhea.
Can be mild or severe, even fatal in rare cases.
Can result in pneumonia.
Transmission
Both can be spread from person to person through droplets in the air from an infected person coughing, sneezing or talking.
A possible difference: COVID-19 might be spread through the airborne route (see details below under Differences).
Flu can be spread by an infected person for several days before their symptoms appear, and COVID-19 is believed to be spread in the same manner, but we don’t yet know for sure.
Treatment
Neither virus is treatable with antibiotics, which only work on bacterial infections.
Both may be treated by addressing symptoms, such as reducing fever. Severe cases may require hospitalization and support such as mechanical ventilation.
Prevention
Both may be prevented by frequent, thorough hand washing, coughing into the crook of your elbow, staying home when sick and limiting contact with people who are infected.
Differences: COVID-19 and the Flu
Cause
COVID-19: Caused by one virus, the novel 2019 coronavirus, now called severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2, or SARS-CoV-2.
Flu: Caused by any of several different types and strains of influenza viruses.
Transmission
While both the flu and COVID-19 may be transmitted in similar ways (see the Similarities section above), there is also a possible difference: COVID-19 might be spread through the airborne route, meaning that tiny droplets remaining in the air could cause disease in others even after the ill person is no longer near.
Antiviral Medications
COVID-19: Antiviral medications are currently being tested to see if they can address symptoms.
Flu: Antiviral medications can address symptoms and sometimes shorten the duration of the illness.
Vaccine
COVID-19: No vaccine is available at this time, though it is in progress.
Flu: A vaccine is available and effective to prevent some of the most dangerous types or to reduce the severity of the flu.
Infections
COVID-19: Approximately 81,322 cases worldwide; 59 cases in the U.S. as of Feb. 26, 2020.
Flu: Estimated 1 billion cases worldwide; 9.3 million to 45 million cases in the U.S. per year.
Deaths
COVID-19: Approximately 2,770 deaths reported worldwide; 0 deaths in the U.S., as of Feb. 26, 2020.
Flu: 291,000 to 646,000 deaths worldwide; 12,000 to 61,000 deaths in the U.S. per year.
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/c...tients-fare-much-worse-than-others-2020-02-26
Coronavirus fatality rates vary wildly depending on age, gender and medical history — some patients fare much worse than others
Published: Feb 27, 2020 4:47 a.m. ET
232
A new paper published in JAMA reviews a China-based sample of 72,000 COVID-19 cases, which suggests dramatic variations in the death rate of the illness
Getty Images
No deaths occurred in those aged 9 years and younger, but cases in those aged 70 to 79 years had an 8% fatality rate and those aged 80 years and older had a fatality rate of 14.8%, according to a study of Chinese coronavirus cases released this week.
Author photo
By
QUENTIN
FOTTRELL
PERSONAL FINANCE EDITOR
As the coronavirus spreads, scientists are learning more about the disease’s fatality rate.
The medical journal JAMA released a paper this week analyzing data from the Chinese Center for Disease Control and Prevention on 72,314 coronavirus cases in mainland China, the figure as of Feb. 11, the largest such sample in a study of this kind.
The sample’s overall case-fatality rate was 2.3%, higher than World Health Organization official 0.7% rate. No deaths occurred in those aged 9 years and younger, but cases in those aged 70 to 79 years had an 8% fatality rate and those aged 80 years and older had a fatality rate of 14.8%.
No deaths were reported among mild and severe cases. The fatality rate was 49% among critical cases, and elevated among those with preexisting conditions: 10.5% for people with cardiovascular disease, 7.3% for diabetes, 6.3% for chronic respiratory disease, 6% for hypertension, and 5.6% for cancer.
The fatality rate was 49% among critical cases and worsened by those with preexisting conditions.
The latest China-based study, which was not peer-reviewed by U.S. scientists, found that men had a fatality rate of 2.8% versus 1.7% for women. Some doctors have said that women may have a stronger immune system as a genetic advantage to help babies during pregnancy.
The Chinese study is likely not representative of what might happen if the global spread of the virus worsens, particularly as regards gender. In China, nearly half of men smoke cigarettes versus 2% of women, which could be one reason for the gender disparity.
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There were 81,191 confirmed cases of COVID-19 and at least 2,768 deaths as of Wednesday, according to a tally published by the Johns Hopkins Whiting School of Engineering’s Centers for Systems Science and Engineering. There are more than 440 cases in Northern Italy.
On Thursday, China’s National Health Commission said there were 433 new confirmed cases of coronavirus and 29 more deaths as of Wednesday, bringing the total number of cases in that country to 78,497, and the total number of deaths there to 2,744.
Also Thursday, South Korea reported 334 new cases, bringing that country’s total number of cases to 1,595; Denmark and Estonia also confirmed their first cases of the novel coronavirus. Meanwhile, Brazil confirmed its first case of coronavirus late Wednesday.
A man in California tested positive, bringing the total number of confirmed cases in the U.S. to 60, the Centers of Disease Prevention and Control said on Wednesday evening. He is the first case in the U.S that had not traveled to any known countries where the virus has spread.
The fatality rate of the novel coronavirus so far appears to be a fraction of that of Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome (9.6%) and Middle East respiratory syndrome (34.4%). The fatality rate can affect how fast an outbreak spreads: If people die from an illness sooner, they are less likely to be working, shopping or flying on airplanes and, thus, less likely to spread the virus.
“COVID-19 rapidly spread from a single city to the entire country in just 30 days,” the JAMA paper added. “The sheer speed of both the geographical expansion and the sudden increase in numbers of cases surprised and quickly overwhelmed health and public-health services in China.”
The World Health Organization said on Monday that the fatality rate in Wuhan, China, considered the epicenter of the outbreak, is between 2% and 4%. Outside of Wuhan, it is thought to be closer to 0.7%.
Recommended: This is how the illness has spread across the world so rapidly
The majority of illnesses and deaths are in Hubei Province where Wuhan — believed to be the epicenter of the outbreak — is located. The illness has spread to more than 40 countries or territories. (WHO has declared a global health emergency.)
While the outbreak has largely affected China — China’s Hubei Province has reported 94% of total deaths and mainland China has 96% of total cases — the emergence of COVID-19 clusters in these other countries has spooked markets this week, Johns Hopkins said.
Coronavirus has an incubation period of up to two weeks, helping the virus to spread. A previous study published in JAMA suggests some patients may be more contagious than others. One patient spread the virus to at least 10 health-care workers and four patients at a hospital in Wuhan.
‘The sheer speed of both the geographical expansion and the sudden increase in numbers of cases surprised and quickly overwhelmed health and public-health services in China.’
“In this single-center case series of 138 hospitalized patients with confirmed novel coronavirus–infected pneumonia in Wuhan, China, presumed hospital-related transmission of 2019-nCoV was suspected in 41% of patients, 26% of patients received ICU care, and [the] mortality was 4.3%.”
SARS had a fatality rate of 9.6%. “The incubation period for SARS is typically 2 to 7 days, although in some cases it may be as long as 10 days,” the CDC said at the time. “In a very small proportion of cases, incubation periods of up to 14 days have been reported.”
Maciej Boni, an associate professor of biology, at Pennsylvania State University, wrote in the online science magazine LiveScience that the 2009 H1N1 flu pandemic initially overestimated the final fatality rate, while the SARS fatality rate rose as the virus spread.
Initially, scientists estimated a fatality rate of 7%. “However, the initially reported information of 850 cases was a gross underestimate,” Boni wrote. “This was simply due to a much larger number of mild cases that did not report to any health system and were not counted.”
“After several months — when pandemic data had been collected from many countries experiencing an epidemic wave — the 2009 influenza turned out to be much milder than was thought in the initial weeks. Its case fatality was lower than 0.1% and in line with other known human influenza viruses.”
“Every now and then a disease becomes so dangerous that it kills the host,” Matan Shelomi, an entomologist and assistant professor at National Taiwan University, wrote on Quora in 2017. But, ideally for the host at least, it must strike a balance.
“If the disease is able to spread to another host before the first host dies, then it is not too lethal to exist. Evolution cannot make it less lethal so long as it can still spread,” he added. “If a hypothetical disease eradicates its only host, both will indeed go extinct.”
Again as with Sars and every pandemic scare we have had except ebola, these types of viruses are basically a bad flu... they rarely kill people outside of they very young, old, and those with previous health issues...
Now ebola, that was a scary virus... that can kill healthy people with ease... coronavirus you are dying of pneumonia... ebola you blood can thin till you bleed out...
With any of these the death rates lower woth access to health care, medicine, and nutrition
The first of its kind simular to this strain had a 35% death rate
Sars was around 10%... this one will probably be lower than that...
People are flipping out over how this is being handled but its ten times the response the government took with the far scarier ebola outbreak...
Now ebola, that was a scary virus... that can kill healthy people with ease... coronavirus you are dying of pneumonia... ebola you blood can thin till you bleed out...
With any of these the death rates lower woth access to health care, medicine, and nutrition
The first of its kind simular to this strain had a 35% death rate
Sars was around 10%... this one will probably be lower than that...
People are flipping out over how this is being handled but its ten times the response the government took with the far scarier ebola outbreak...
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Trump has by all real reports been very proactive in this but very quiet about it to not spread unnecessary panic as is proper. Unfortunately the Democrats are so desperate for anything to save their rapidly disintegrating election chances that they would purposely create panic to tank the market in hopes of damaging Trump. It is sickening!
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Hell this one seemingly doesn't kill the young at all which is a bit weird.
Trump- “I am asking Congress for$2.5 billion to fight this thing.”
Schumer- “It should be $8.5 billion!”
Trump- “Okay, I’ll take it!”
Schumer- “Dohhhh!”
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Of course that's what Pence is going to do so I don't understand all this hand-wringing that he's not qualified! Of course he's not but he's a level-headed character who everybody knows. Could Trump have assigned someone with a ton of credentials behind their name? Sure. But then he'd probably get grief that he assigned someone nobody knows which is not very reassuring to the public at large.
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Just saw this, hope the Pope is okay. He was out greeting (hugging, kissing) the masses a few days ago at the Vatican. May not have been such a great idea, given what's been happening in Italy.
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Illness forces the Pope to cancel event at Vatican a day after showing solidarity with coronavirus sufferers <a href="https://t.co/UEvqimBZqI">https://t.co/UEvqimBZqI</a> <a href="https://t.co/vDpbdiBeFu">pic.twitter.com/vDpbdiBeFu</a></p>— Daily Mail Online (@MailOnline) <a href="https://twitter.com/MailOnline/status/1233008432879480839?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 27, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Italy <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Coronavirus?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Coronavirus</a> Clip: people fleeing as people in hazmat suits swoop in to take away a coronavirus infected person in Florence. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/COVID%E3%83%BC19?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#COVIDー19</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/italy?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#italy</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/coronavirusitalla?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#coronavirusitalla</a> <a href="https://t.co/ipsRMsQs1t">pic.twitter.com/ipsRMsQs1t</a></p>— 24/7 Crisis News LIVE ☢ (@livecrisisnews) <a href="https://twitter.com/livecrisisnews/status/1233078026189049861?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 27, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Illness forces the Pope to cancel event at Vatican a day after showing solidarity with coronavirus sufferers <a href="https://t.co/UEvqimBZqI">https://t.co/UEvqimBZqI</a> <a href="https://t.co/vDpbdiBeFu">pic.twitter.com/vDpbdiBeFu</a></p>— Daily Mail Online (@MailOnline) <a href="https://twitter.com/MailOnline/status/1233008432879480839?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 27, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Italy <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Coronavirus?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Coronavirus</a> Clip: people fleeing as people in hazmat suits swoop in to take away a coronavirus infected person in Florence. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/COVID%E3%83%BC19?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#COVIDー19</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/italy?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#italy</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/coronavirusitalla?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#coronavirusitalla</a> <a href="https://t.co/ipsRMsQs1t">pic.twitter.com/ipsRMsQs1t</a></p>— 24/7 Crisis News LIVE ☢ (@livecrisisnews) <a href="https://twitter.com/livecrisisnews/status/1233078026189049861?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 27, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
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We can spend some of that to build walls to keep the infected out!
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The dystopian situation in Wuhan and other parts of China is mind-numbing.
<samp class="EmbedCode-container"><code class="EmbedCode-code"><blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">...fogger... <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/coronavirus?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#coronavirus</a> <a href="https://t.co/d19t80WfMx">pic.twitter.com/d19t80WfMx</a></p>— Joe Black (@JoeB14ck) <a href="https://twitter.com/JoeB14ck/status/1233074855005679616?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 27, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
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<samp class="EmbedCode-container"><code class="EmbedCode-code"><blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Trucks with food supplies on the highway, as far as eye can see, queuing for entrance to Wuhan, China. This tells you about the scale of <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/coronavirus?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#coronavirus</a> disaster. <a href="https://t.co/eIFkcnSuRb">pic.twitter.com/eIFkcnSuRb</a></p>— Max Howroute
(@howroute) <a href="https://twitter.com/howroute/status/1232465357773754369?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 26, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
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(@HILARIOUS404) <a href="https://twitter.com/HILARIOUS404/status/1232662152277823490?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 26, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script> </code></samp>
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<samp class="EmbedCode-container"><code class="EmbedCode-code"><blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">BY SPRAYING IS CHINA TELLING US THE <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/CORONAVIRUS?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#CORONAVIRUS</a> IS NOT ONLY TRANSFERED HUMAN TO HUMAN BUT SURFACE TO HUMAN TOO?<br>IF SO, THAT MEANS THAT ANY PRODUCTS COMING FROM CHINA CAN BE TRANSPORTING THE VIRUS IF HANDLED BE AN INFECTED PERSON.<br>JUST FOOD FOR THOUGHT<a href="https://t.co/JDIgfBdyyv">pic.twitter.com/JDIgfBdyyv</a><br> 05</p>— Tomthunkit™ (@TomthunkitsMind) <a href="https://twitter.com/TomthunkitsMind/status/1232921609092161537?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 27, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script> </code></samp>
<samp class="EmbedCode-container"><code class="EmbedCode-code"><blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/China?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#China</a> know as the ‘dragon’. Now the dragon is belly up. Well this dragon decor used as a roadblock in <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Wuhan?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Wuhan</a>. City is now like a scene out of a Zombie movie. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/coronavirus?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#coronavirus</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/COVID19?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#COVID19</a> <a href="https://t.co/eWX4hc1HPq">pic.twitter.com/eWX4hc1HPq</a></p>— Anfield_king (@Anfield_king) <a href="https://twitter.com/Anfield_king/status/1228702472408944642?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 15, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script> </code></samp>
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<samp class="EmbedCode-container"><code class="EmbedCode-code"><blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Trucks with food supplies on the highway, as far as eye can see, queuing for entrance to Wuhan, China. This tells you about the scale of <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/coronavirus?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#coronavirus</a> disaster. <a href="https://t.co/eIFkcnSuRb">pic.twitter.com/eIFkcnSuRb</a></p>— Max Howroute
(@howroute) <a href="https://twitter.com/howroute/status/1232465357773754369?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 26, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script> </code></samp><samp class="EmbedCode-container"><code class="EmbedCode-code"><samp class="EmbedCode-container"><code class="EmbedCode-code"><blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Unbelievable effort to sanitize Luoyang, China 350 miles away from Wuhan, the epicenter of the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/coronavirus?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#coronavirus</a> outbreak <a href="https://t.co/33WMj4fwgY">pic.twitter.com/33WMj4fwgY</a></p>— JASON KEITH ROBERTSON
(@HILARIOUS404) <a href="https://twitter.com/HILARIOUS404/status/1232662152277823490?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 26, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script> </code></samp></code></samp>
<samp class="EmbedCode-container"><code class="EmbedCode-code"><blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">BY SPRAYING IS CHINA TELLING US THE <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/CORONAVIRUS?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#CORONAVIRUS</a> IS NOT ONLY TRANSFERED HUMAN TO HUMAN BUT SURFACE TO HUMAN TOO?<br>IF SO, THAT MEANS THAT ANY PRODUCTS COMING FROM CHINA CAN BE TRANSPORTING THE VIRUS IF HANDLED BE AN INFECTED PERSON.<br>JUST FOOD FOR THOUGHT<a href="https://t.co/JDIgfBdyyv">pic.twitter.com/JDIgfBdyyv</a><br> 05</p>— Tomthunkit™ (@TomthunkitsMind) <a href="https://twitter.com/TomthunkitsMind/status/1232921609092161537?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 27, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script> </code></samp>
<samp class="EmbedCode-container"><code class="EmbedCode-code"><blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/China?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#China</a> know as the ‘dragon’. Now the dragon is belly up. Well this dragon decor used as a roadblock in <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Wuhan?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Wuhan</a>. City is now like a scene out of a Zombie movie. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/coronavirus?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#coronavirus</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/COVID19?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#COVID19</a> <a href="https://t.co/eWX4hc1HPq">pic.twitter.com/eWX4hc1HPq</a></p>— Anfield_king (@Anfield_king) <a href="https://twitter.com/Anfield_king/status/1228702472408944642?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 15, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script> </code></samp>
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As far as stateside, the thing to look for is a significant increase in testing for COVID19 by the CDC in the coming days and weeks, as it seems entirely inadequate at this stage. The sooner patients can be identified and quarantined the better the chances of keeping it localized.
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You getting your panties in a knot over what you perceive to be slander, given your history of the act, is indeed rich.
And yes, your actions (I keep saying that) tell me I'm right. You hope this becomes something serious and you hope you and your ilk can use it against this President. That's truth and I believe it.
If it wasn't, you'd have been here the past two weeks.
But like throwing chum in the water, the second there's bad news you think can be weaponized against this President, you show up to feed: Stormy Daniels, Russia, Ukraine, COVID-19, Blasey-Ford, Swetnick, Lev Parnas... These moments are the only time you are active. It says all we need to know.
You now have 93 posts in this thread. Why? It's damned obvious why.
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Tibs, do you think the lack of environmental controls on Chinese power and manufacturing plants allowing the air to quality to be so bad could be a major contributing factor to the severity of the disease there? It is predominantly a pulmonary infection dealing with respiration issues and many there live in heavily industrialized and polluted areas that I am sure have compromised their lungs on top of the almost 50% smoking rate among men there. Couple that with the sheer amount of people living in close proximity and lesser sanitary practices and you have a perfect storm for this disease. The west overall is much better prepared for things like this and we have far superior air quality despite the claims of the environmentalists.
These videos are horrible but it seems to be a problem of their own making in many ways.
These videos are horrible but it seems to be a problem of their own making in many ways.
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**** the Chinese, they started this, and there are 1.5 billion of them, losing a half a billion would be a drop in the bucket and wouldn't stop their raping of the planet and strip mining the oceans.
Maybe the planet will be better off without them all, the Yellow Peril should be the new name for this virus, it hates Asians.
Maybe the planet will be better off without them all, the Yellow Peril should be the new name for this virus, it hates Asians.
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Talk about creating a panic. Look at what Tibs is doing....
He doesn't know for sure, but is basically plastering all the hyperbole and worst case "what if" all over this message board.
There are NINETY ******* cases in the U.S. Tibs. Just ******* relax a bit until you see how it plays out. Instead, you show up after disappearing for a month and push 10-15 post in ONE THREAD practically implying Coronavirus is going to grind our civilization to a halt (oh... and it's all Trump's fault).
He doesn't know for sure, but is basically plastering all the hyperbole and worst case "what if" all over this message board.
There are NINETY ******* cases in the U.S. Tibs. Just ******* relax a bit until you see how it plays out. Instead, you show up after disappearing for a month and push 10-15 post in ONE THREAD practically implying Coronavirus is going to grind our civilization to a halt (oh... and it's all Trump's fault).
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Everything he is posting has already been discussed in my thread WEEKS and WEEKS ago.
President Trump was called racist when he shut down fights from China!!!!
President Trump probably saved many lives and American leftists should be on their knees thanking him.
Israeli scientists: 'In three weeks, we will have coronavirus vaccine'
By MAAYAN JAFFE-HOFFMAN FEBRUARY 27, 2020
A team of Israeli scientists are on the cusp of developing the first vaccine against coronavirus, according to Israel’s Minister of Science and Technology, Ofir Akunis. If all goes as planned, the vaccine could be ready within three weeks and available in 90 days.
“Congratulations to MIGAL [The Galilee Research Institute] on this exciting breakthrough. I am confident that there will be further rapid progress, enabling us to provide a needed response to the grave global COVID-19 threat,” Akunis said, referring to the disease caused by the novel coronavirus.
For the past four years, a team of MIGAL scientists has been developing a vaccine against infectious bronchitis virus (IBV), which causes a bronchial disease affecting poultry, and whose effectiveness has been proven in pre-clinical trials carried out at the Veterinary Institute.
MIGAL is located in the Galilee.
“Our basic concept was to develop the technology, and not specifically a vaccine for this kind or that kind of virus,” said Dr. Chen Katz, MIGAL’s biotechnology group leader, who explained that “the scientific framework for the vaccine is based on a new protein expression vector, which forms and secretes a chimeric soluble protein that delivers the viral antigen into mucosal tissues by self-activated endocytosis, causing the body to form antibodies against the virus.”
Endocytosis is a cellular process in which substances are brought into a cell by surrounding the material with cell membrane, forming a vesicle containing the ingested material. Katz said that in pre-clinical trials, the team demonstrated that the oral vaccination induces high levels of specific anti-IBV antibodies.
“Let’s call it pure luck,” he continued. “We decided to choose coronavirus as a model for our system - just as a proof of concept for our technology.”
But after scientists sequenced the DNA of SARS-CoV-2 – the official name of the novel coronavirus causing the current worldwide outbreak – the MIGAL researchers examined it and found that the poultry coronavirus has high genetic similarity to the human one, and that it uses the same infection mechanism, a fact that increases the likelihood of achieving an effective human vaccine in a very short period of time.
“All we need to do is adjust the system to the new sequence,” Katz continued. “We are in the middle of this process and hopefully in a few weeks we will have the vaccine in our hands. Yes – in a few weeks, if it all works, we would have a vaccine to prevent coronavirus.”
Katz cautioned that MIGAL would be responsible for developing the new vaccine, but that the vaccine would then have to go through a regulatory process, including clinical trials and large-scale production.
Akunis said that he has instructed the director general of the Science and Technology Ministry to fast-track all approval processes with the goal of bringing the human vaccine to market as quickly as possible.
“Given the urgent global need for a human coronavirus vaccine, we are doing everything we can to accelerate development,” said David Zigdon, CEO of MIGAL, who said he believes the vaccine could “achieve safety approval in 90 days.”
He said that this will be an oral vaccine, making it particularly accessible to the general public.
“We are currently in intensive discussions with potential partners that can help accelerate the in-human trials phase and expedite completion of final product development and regulatory activities,” he concluded.
Link https://www.jpost.com/HEALTH-SCIENCE/Israeli-scientists-In-three-weeks-we-will-have-coronavirus-vaccine-619101
By MAAYAN JAFFE-HOFFMAN FEBRUARY 27, 2020
A team of Israeli scientists are on the cusp of developing the first vaccine against coronavirus, according to Israel’s Minister of Science and Technology, Ofir Akunis. If all goes as planned, the vaccine could be ready within three weeks and available in 90 days.
“Congratulations to MIGAL [The Galilee Research Institute] on this exciting breakthrough. I am confident that there will be further rapid progress, enabling us to provide a needed response to the grave global COVID-19 threat,” Akunis said, referring to the disease caused by the novel coronavirus.
For the past four years, a team of MIGAL scientists has been developing a vaccine against infectious bronchitis virus (IBV), which causes a bronchial disease affecting poultry, and whose effectiveness has been proven in pre-clinical trials carried out at the Veterinary Institute.
MIGAL is located in the Galilee.
“Our basic concept was to develop the technology, and not specifically a vaccine for this kind or that kind of virus,” said Dr. Chen Katz, MIGAL’s biotechnology group leader, who explained that “the scientific framework for the vaccine is based on a new protein expression vector, which forms and secretes a chimeric soluble protein that delivers the viral antigen into mucosal tissues by self-activated endocytosis, causing the body to form antibodies against the virus.”
Endocytosis is a cellular process in which substances are brought into a cell by surrounding the material with cell membrane, forming a vesicle containing the ingested material. Katz said that in pre-clinical trials, the team demonstrated that the oral vaccination induces high levels of specific anti-IBV antibodies.
“Let’s call it pure luck,” he continued. “We decided to choose coronavirus as a model for our system - just as a proof of concept for our technology.”
But after scientists sequenced the DNA of SARS-CoV-2 – the official name of the novel coronavirus causing the current worldwide outbreak – the MIGAL researchers examined it and found that the poultry coronavirus has high genetic similarity to the human one, and that it uses the same infection mechanism, a fact that increases the likelihood of achieving an effective human vaccine in a very short period of time.
“All we need to do is adjust the system to the new sequence,” Katz continued. “We are in the middle of this process and hopefully in a few weeks we will have the vaccine in our hands. Yes – in a few weeks, if it all works, we would have a vaccine to prevent coronavirus.”
Katz cautioned that MIGAL would be responsible for developing the new vaccine, but that the vaccine would then have to go through a regulatory process, including clinical trials and large-scale production.
Akunis said that he has instructed the director general of the Science and Technology Ministry to fast-track all approval processes with the goal of bringing the human vaccine to market as quickly as possible.
“Given the urgent global need for a human coronavirus vaccine, we are doing everything we can to accelerate development,” said David Zigdon, CEO of MIGAL, who said he believes the vaccine could “achieve safety approval in 90 days.”
He said that this will be an oral vaccine, making it particularly accessible to the general public.
“We are currently in intensive discussions with potential partners that can help accelerate the in-human trials phase and expedite completion of final product development and regulatory activities,” he concluded.
Link https://www.jpost.com/HEALTH-SCIENCE/Israeli-scientists-In-three-weeks-we-will-have-coronavirus-vaccine-619101
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Fine, don't apologize for saying I hoped people would die from this pandemic. I didn't expect you to, you're not man enough to do that.
You really ought to find another hobby besides obsessing about me and my posts on this board. It's embarrasing, really.
Don't blame me that you support and sugarcoat a presidency where **** goes down 24/7. It's been non-stop crisis mode since he stepped into office, most of it his own doing. And I'll continue to post here whenever I feel like posting, regardless of your obsessive, stalking behavior. I'd suggest you find another bogeyman, for the sake of your own mental health.
Yeah it's really over-the-top and distasteful.
You are quite literally delusional.
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Oh boy, we have another runner...
Just posting info on the virus, as that's what this thread is for. Didn't see Spike's thread in GD, so I've posted here. Not trying to create or spread panic, just found some info that I thought was interesting having to do with this subject. What's happening in Italy, Iran, China and elsewhere in the world is current, real-time, not weeks-old news.
But **** you guys, if you don't want to discuss current issues, than why even participate in these threads? You can get back to stroking each other's egos, that seems to be all you're interested in.