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The Coronavirus thread

Ain't it great?

NFL isn't getting my views or dollars till they get back to football.

Agreed. I am not going to watch a sport where players by the dozens kneel during the nation's anthem, but would be pilloried for kneeling during a song this is inexplicably given play time as if it were a national anthem.
 
I feel like Geraldo. You know, 50 years in journalism, breaking down untruths, exposing media bias, hidden state agendas. Tonight, we once again expose Tibs. The mass spreader of misinformation.

While the rest of us try to exercise patience, and wait for stories to unfold until we have the facts, Tibs spews 'facts' at the first airing of any news. He's been telling us about the now infamous "Portland Moms" who stood up to the tyranny of Donald J. Trump. Innocent, peaceful mothers....

Except....like the Indian agitator with Nick Sandman...like Michael Avenatti...he is once again egregiously WRONG.

Now we have video of the Portland Moms seen on video trying to kick their way into the Federal Court House in Portland.

https://news.yahoo.com/truth-behind-medias-newest-heroines-030647972.html

Video inside.

The Wall of Moms...yeah, they aren't baking pumpkin pies and they aren't moms you wanna bring your girlfriends home to. They are just another version of anarchists.

Yet another example of how the media is the Enemy of the State, purporting lies upon the populace, leading you to believe something that isn't in fact the reality.

EDIT: no surprise, Yahoo has removed the story. YouTube still has the video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=639wIbU6cbc

He's a ******* fraud and not worth the energy. Gives me a good chuckle on just how far off his perception of reality is here in his former country.

This garabge will only go on for so long. I'm sure they're going to try some bullshit on election day which they had better not do.


At least they've laid it all out on the table from covid to destroying cities,of who they really are.


All they have accomplished is to make millions of people hate their ******* guts.
 
So I take my beautiful 15 month old fawn boxer to the vet hospital due to illness. We have to leave her in a cage and await a phone call from the vet. Fine so far. They needed to keep her overnight for tests, etc. Still fine. I inquire about seeing her. Oh no, no visitors at all. You can't see her. So I'm thinking what if things went south? I call other local animal hospital about their policies if euthanasia is necessary. No contact allowed with pet before procedure. I say are you serious? "To stop the spread of COVID we have been forced to adopt these policies. Do you have an iPhone? We would offer a FaceTime option." I was dumbfounded. I say "FaceTime to say goodbye to my pet because of this overhyped virus?". "The safety of our staff..."

What about masks, social distancing?

Fortunately our dog is better and we pick her up tonight but what a horrible thought. Then to think that this is effectively what happened to nursing home patients. People should ******* pay!!!


they'll pay for Cuomo's book on his covid response. I believe the working title is.. Using a Pandemic as an Excuse to Kill Old People and Lessen the Burden on the System. This Kind of Thing Is My Bag Baby!
 
I’m curious as to what happens in the schools once the county wide mask mandate is lifted. Do we follow that or do we make it optional for schools? Judging by the number of people who spoke out against the mandate last night at the commission meeting, I’m guessing it’s gonna be a **** show once that happens. 121 people were against the masks, 1 was for. The commission voted 4-3 to extend the mandate AGAIN until October. I’ll be interested to see what each school district in our county does once they lift the mandate.
 
I live in a little mountain community in Northern Arizona, full time residency is only about 1000, but swells to over 10,000 in the summer.

On Saturday the community held an auction, raffle, party, to raise money for the local fire department at one of the local eateries.

Thousands of old farts like me, eating, drinking, mingling, singing, dancing, and absolutely no one wearing a mask.

I'll be checking the Covid numbers for the zip code for the next few weeks. I'm guessing nothing much changes.
 
I live in a little mountain community in Northern Arizona, full time residency is only about 1000, but swells to over 10,000 in the summer.

On Saturday the community held an auction, raffle, party, to raise money for the local fire department at one of the local eateries.

Thousands of old farts like me, eating, drinking, mingling, singing, dancing, and absolutely no one wearing a mask.

I'll be checking the Covid numbers for the zip code for the next few weeks. I'm guessing nothing much changes.

all y'all cost us taxpayers untold billions of Tibs' tax dollars.

https://thehill.com/homenews/state-...lly-was-superspreading-event-that-cost-public

Sturgis Motorcycle Rally was 'superspreading event' that cost public health $12.2 billion: analysis
BY J. EDWARD MORENO - 09/08/20 12:01 PM EDT

The Sturgis Motorcycle Rally in South Dakota last month was a coronavirus “superspreading event” that led to an estimated $12.2 billion in public health costs, according to a new study by the IZA Institute of Labor Economics.

The analysis tracked anonymized cellphone data from the 10-day event that showed “smartphone pings from non-residents” and “foot traffic at restaurants and bars, retail establishments, entertainment venues, hotels and campgrounds each rose substantially.” Stay-at-home hours for local residents fell during the same time period.

Based on the increase in case count, the researchers group, estimated that cases connected to the gathering resulted in $12 billion in public health costs, not including the costs associated with any deaths that might be tied to cases from the event. That dollar amount is based on another estimation that an average of $46,000 is spent on each patient who tests positive for COVID-19.

Researchers concluded that more than 266,000 cases were tied to the event attended by more than 460,000 individuals.

Health officials have linked at least one death to the rally: a male biker in his 60s with underlying conditions. At least 260 cases in 11 states have been officially connected to the rally by government officials.

The annual event ran from Aug. 7-16 and drew more than 365,00 vehicles, according to South Dakota’s Department of Transportation.

Most people who attended the event did not take coronavirus precautions like wearing masks and social distancing, The Associated Press reported at the time.

“The Sturgis Motorcycle Rally represents a situation where many of the ‘worst-case scenarios’ for superspreading occurred simultaneously: the event was prolonged, included individuals packed closely together, involved a large out-of-town population (a population that was orders of magnitude larger than the local population), and had low compliance with recommended infection countermeasures such as the use of masks,” the researchers wrote.


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https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-usa-idUSKBN25U01J

LOS ANGELES (Reuters) - A motorcycle rider who traveled to the Sturgis rally in August has died of COVID-19 as infections rise in parts of the Midwest, Minnesota health officials said on Wednesday, while Los Angeles reopened hair salons and New Yorkers returned to gyms.

The motorcyclist, identified only as a man in his 60s with underlying health conditions, was in an intensive care unit at the time of his death, said Kris Ehresmann, the state’s infectious disease director.

“We are now up to 50 cases associated with Sturgis and sadly that includes one death among today’s total,” Ehresmann told a news briefing. Secondary infections were not included in the count.
 
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I live in a little mountain community in Northern Arizona, full time residency is only about 1000, but swells to over 10,000 in the summer.

On Saturday the community held an auction, raffle, party, to raise money for the local fire department at one of the local eateries.

Thousands of old farts like me, eating, drinking, mingling, singing, dancing, and absolutely no one wearing a mask.

I'll be checking the Covid numbers for the zip code for the next few weeks. I'm guessing nothing much changes.

Sounds like a good time and people are tuning out this panic **** we get fed all the time. Oh yeah, you're good:

 
Baseline is 11 positive tests since the plague reached our shores.

Yavapai County still has restrictions on dining, masks in retail outlets, etc. Obviously needed due to the frightening Chinese flu numbers from the County - 9 new cases in the past three days, zero hospitalizations, zero deaths.

https://www.yavapai.us/Portals/39/September 9 Update.pdf

Horrendous. ******* Trump. I have never known a time when 9 people out of 235,000 got sick and had to stay home or something.
 
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If we can get enough Republicans in the state house and senate to override his vetoes it's all good. Ride them Trump coattails.
 
all y'all cost us taxpayers untold billions of Tibs' tax dollars.

The Sturgis Motorcycle Rally in South Dakota last month was a coronavirus “superspreading event” that led to an estimated $12.2 billion in public health costs, according to a new study by the IZA Institute of Labor Economics.

The analysis tracked anonymized cellphone data from the 10-day event that showed “smartphone pings from non-residents” and “foot traffic at restaurants and bars, retail establishments, entertainment venues, hotels and campgrounds each rose substantially.” Stay-at-home hours for local residents fell during the same time period.

Based on the increase in case count, the researchers group, estimated that cases connected to the gathering resulted in $12 billion in public health costs, not including the costs associated with any deaths that might be tied to cases from the event. That dollar amount is based on another estimation that an average of $46,000 is spent on each patient who tests positive for COVID-19.

Researchers concluded that more than 266,000 cases were tied to the event attended by more than 460,000 individuals.

Health officials have linked at least one death to the rally: a male biker in his 60s with underlying conditions. At least 260 cases in 11 states have been officially connected to the rally by government officials.

The annual event ran from Aug. 7-16 and drew more than 365,00 vehicles, according to South Dakota’s Department of Transportation.

Most people who attended the event did not take coronavirus precautions like wearing masks and social distancing, The Associated Press reported at the time.

“The Sturgis Motorcycle Rally represents a situation where many of the ‘worst-case scenarios’ for superspreading occurred simultaneously: the event was prolonged, included individuals packed closely together, involved a large out-of-town population (a population that was orders of magnitude larger than the local population), and had low compliance with recommended infection countermeasures such as the use of masks,” the researchers wrote.


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https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-usa-idUSKBN25U01J

LOS ANGELES (Reuters) - A motorcycle rider who traveled to the Sturgis rally in August has died of COVID-19 as infections rise in parts of the Midwest, Minnesota health officials said on Wednesday, while Los Angeles reopened hair salons and New Yorkers returned to gyms.

The motorcyclist, identified only as a man in his 60s with underlying health conditions, was in an intensive care unit at the time of his death, said Kris Ehresmann, the state’s infectious disease director.

“We are now up to 50 cases associated with Sturgis and sadly that includes one death among today’s total,” Ehresmann told a news briefing. Secondary infections were not included in the count.

Horribly written "report". It's not a peer reviewed paper. The way they extrapolate their data is flawed. They use cell phone data to "track" people they believe left the area after the festivities were over. Then matched those people to however many cases popped up in the area they went too. I can't begin to tell you how ignorantly flawed that is scientifically. There are so many assumptions needed to get this off the ground it isn't funny. First you are assuming everyone that left the area was at the event. Second, you have to assume that every single case in the new area was because of the infected Sturgis people. Third, the 12 billion is based on the fallacy that every single person who got COVID at the rally (and not at the rally) was hospitalized (which isn't true). Fourth, these aren't scientist... they are economists. Fifth, the real scientist that actually studied the event said only around ~124 people can be tied directly to it.

This is nothing more than a political piece cloaked as a science paper.
 
Horribly written "report". It's not a peer reviewed paper. The way they extrapolate their data is flawed. They use cell phone data to "track" people they believe left the area after the festivities were over. Then matched those people to however many cases popped up in the area they went too. I can't begin to tell you how ignorantly flawed that is scientifically. There are so many assumptions needed to get this off the ground it isn't funny. First you are assuming everyone that left the area was at the event. Second, you have to assume that every single case in the new area was because of the infected Sturgis people. Third, the 12 billion is based on the fallacy that every single person who got COVID at the rally (and not at the rally) was hospitalized (which isn't true). Fourth, these aren't scientist... they are economists. Fifth, the real scientist that actually studied the event said only around ~124 people can be tied directly to it.

This is nothing more than a political piece cloaked as a science paper.

Nice and well-stated.

Wait until you read their report that the mob looting and rioting saved thousands of lives and billions of dollars.
 
$46,000 per positive Covid test....
follow the money

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Let me add the ******* ridiculousness. He pulled funds for counties that Said **** you, DT does it (or said he would) to cities that won’t police and he is crucified. Cry me a ******* river. .
 
Horribly written "report". It's not a peer reviewed paper. The way they extrapolate their data is flawed. They use cell phone data to "track" people they believe left the area after the festivities were over. Then matched those people to however many cases popped up in the area they went too. I can't begin to tell you how ignorantly flawed that is scientifically. There are so many assumptions needed to get this off the ground it isn't funny. First you are assuming everyone that left the area was at the event. Second, you have to assume that every single case in the new area was because of the infected Sturgis people. Third, the 12 billion is based on the fallacy that every single person who got COVID at the rally (and not at the rally) was hospitalized (which isn't true). Fourth, these aren't scientist... they are economists. Fifth, the real scientist that actually studied the event said only around ~124 people can be tied directly to it.

This is nothing more than a political piece cloaked as a science paper.

yeah but what if they make their model data into a graph shaped like a hockey stick? Then it's settled science.
 
There's a movement in my county to let kids play sports. Our positivity rate is 3.5%. Chester County Hospital has zero covid patients right now. Zero.

The school district says it must abide by the county health department recommendation. The health department says it is following Governor Wolf's recommendation. When asked what the scientific basis for his recommendation is, the health department spokesman literally said she couldn't answer that.

It's basically just, because he said so.

What happened to flatten the curve? What happened to keep the hospitals from being overwhelmed? WTF is the end game here, especially if a safe and effective vaccine isn't ever found?


How are we giving this one guy so much power? And he doesn't even have to justify his decisions? It's scary.
 
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