The Coronavirus thread

[Tim Steelersfan]

There’s two articles, Tim. The February 18th WSJ Makary OPINION, and the idiotic March 29th Townhall misrepresentation of that opinion that YOU posted. The Townhall article is in the present tense as if “Well, it’s April, so herd immunity is here!” If you knew it was an outdated prediction from when average daily new cases were down 77% instead of up 17%, why didn’t a light go off telling you the Townhall article was a bunch off bullshit?

Again, what was your point in posting it? Why not post the WSJ article instead? You seem to be now arguing that you were aware the Townhall article was bullshit all along. Bizarre. I suspect you weren’t aware at all due to the alternative facts bubble you live in.

And you’re clueless about ND and SD. They are still in the top half of the country in average daily new cases despite being two of the most SPARSELY populated states. CA is currently among the lowest.

You’re also clueless about a “let it ride” the more cases the better approach. No state achieved natural herd immunity. Nobody that understands the pandemic believes that.

Allow me to repeat AGAIN. READ the article before spouting off with your dumbassery.

From the Townhall article, the HEADLINE: "Johns Hopkins Doctor Declares We're Close to COVID Herd Immunity"
From the HEADLINE of the WSJ article: "Herd Immunity Is Near, Despite Fauci’s Denial"

No one, including me, in posting those articles said it IS HERE. The articles clearly state we are close and near herd immunity.

The fact that you miss the god damned headlines is unsurprising Floggy.

You can continue to try to twist the data all you wish regarding SD and ND. They have shown, point blank, draconian lock downs are NOT needed to combat the virus. They have taken the correct trade off.

From your beloved NYT, cases per 100,000 from March 1 to April 4:

1. Michigan - 64 per 100K
2. New Jersey - 49 per 100K
3. New York - 40 per 100K
4. Connecticut - 35 per 100K
5. Delaware - 34 per 100K
6. Pennsylvania - 33 per 100K
7. Rhode Island - 33 per 100K
8. Vermont - 30 per 100K
9. New Hampshire - 30 per 100K
10. Massachusetts - 28 per 100K
11. Minnesota - 28 per 100K
12. Florida - 25 per 100K
13. Colorado - 25 per 100K
14. Alaska - 24 per 100K
15. Nebraska - 23 per 100K
16. West Virginia - 23 per 100K
17. Maryland - 22 per 100K
18. Illinois - 21 per 100K
19. Maine - 20 per 100K
20. North Dakota - 20 per 100K
21. South Dakota - 18 per 100K

Lockdowns v no-lockdowns...pretty obvious lockdowns aren't working. Lockdown states v non-lockdown states show no correlation whatsoever. None. Absolutely none. Locking down has done nothing to slow the spread.

 

[Tim Steelersfan]

Not many. The mitigation efforts that reduced Covid cases were even more effective against far less contagious diseases. Imagine that! The more you know...

Yep.

During the 2019 flu season from Sept. 29 to Dec. 28, the CDC reported more than 65,000 cases of influenza nationwide. During the same period this flu season, the agency reported 1,016 cases.

330Million Americans. 1,016 cases of the flu. Because of masking and lockdowns.

I'm not shocked at all you buy this. A 98.44% decrease in a virus we cannot ever get rid of that strikes the world annually because it mutates suddenly just disappears. None of this has anything at all to do with reporting. Nope.

 

[Tim Steelersfan]

Michigan leads the country in new cases. ******* Canadian illegal aliens!

So you're saying it's wise to mitigate immigration from other countries in 2020, like countries from Europe and Asia because COVID could kill us all!....but letting illegal aliens cross the border makes sense?

You're a lockdown nut...except when you're not.

 

[Tibs]

Michigan leads the country in new cases. ******* Canadian illegal aliens!

Yeah, my earlier post about the severe outbreak up north with the Vancouver Canucks was immediately met by pointing to the immigration issues at the southern border.

It's like a part of American society is living in a strange, twisted, bizarro, upside-down world. It's been that way since the former guy unleashed MAGA on an unsuspecting nation.

I hope there's a way back from the madness. Sadly, it seems clear it won't happen overnight, or maybe even any time soon.

 

[Tim Steelersfan]

Yeah, my earlier post about the severe outbreak up north with the Vancouver Canucks was immediately met by pointing to the immigration issues at the southern border.

For reason Tibs. Like the Liberal Mafia you follow, you are all over the map on COVID mitigation. You and Beijing Joe should both be saying, if you really believe COVID to be so deadly, allowing illegal aliens to stream into our country isn't COVID safe. If you support lockdowns and curtailing immigration in some areas...you should support them everywhere.

Like Beijing Joe and the dangerous AltLeft, you have no concern about things like massive riots, BLM marches, or unmitigated immigration across the southern border.

But you damned sure scream about lockdowns and super spreader events WHEN it suits your agenda.

Be consistent.

 

[JMM]

Bravo!!

 

[Superman]

Yeah, my earlier post about the severe outbreak up north with the Vancouver Canucks was immediately met by pointing to the immigration issues at the southern border.

It's like a part of American society is living in a strange, twisted, bizarro, upside-down world. It's been that way since the former guy unleashed MAGA on an unsuspecting nation.

I hope there's a way back from the madness. Sadly, it seems clear it won't happen overnight, or maybe even any time soon.

wow. are you and flog playing "Who can be most wrong"?
I never said a word about which border should be closed. Your racist tendencies implied the southern border, where all the brown people are coming in. Why do you hate brown people, Tibs?

 

[Tibs]

wow. are you and flog playing "Who can be most wrong"?
I never said a word about which border should be closed. Your racist tendencies implied the southern border, where all the brown people are coming in. Why do you hate brown people, Tibs?

Odd as it may sound, I wasn't referring to you. Stay gold, Ponyboy.

 

[Superman]

Odd as it may sound, I wasn't referring to you. Stay gold, Ponyboy.

eat some ***, *******.
why not continue the conversation we were ... or, should i say, I was attempting to have with you? use the CDC's numbers as the guideline for your response.

 

[Superman]

Odd as it may sound, I wasn't referring to you. Stay gold, Ponyboy.

BTW - you somehow managed to get a post in about the Vancouver Canucks past the database filter. Good job.

Search results for query: Vancouver Canucks

www.steelernation.com

 

[SteelerInLebanon]

wow. are you and flog playing "Who can be most wrong"?
I never said a word about which border should be closed. Your racist tendencies implied the southern border, where all the brown people are coming in. Why do you hate brown people, Tibs?

Because the one here legally are turning Republican.

 

[Steeltime]

For anyone paying attention, the name of the game right now are the new variants. This current incarnation of Covid isn't the same, tamer version of Covid from last year.

It's a lot stronger, more contagious and dangerous for the 20-40 age group. Sadly numbers are rising again stateside and in Europe. Even with the high number of vaccinations, masks, et al. Best to remain vigilant.

 

[Troglodyte]

Allow me to repeat AGAIN. READ the article before spouting off with your dumbassery.

From the Townhall article, the HEADLINE: "Johns Hopkins Doctor Declares We're Close to COVID Herd Immunity"
From the HEADLINE of the WSJ article: "Herd Immunity Is Near, Despite Fauci’s Denial"

No one, including me, in posting those articles said it IS HERE. The articles clearly state we are close and near herd immunity.

The fact that you miss the god damned headlines is unsurprising Floggy.

You can continue to try to twist the data all you wish regarding SD and ND. They have shown, point blank, draconian lock downs are NOT needed to combat the virus. They have taken the correct trade off.

From your beloved NYT, cases per 100,000 from March 1 to April 4:

1. Michigan - 64 per 100K
2. New Jersey - 49 per 100K
3. New York - 40 per 100K
4. Connecticut - 35 per 100K
5. Delaware - 34 per 100K
6. Pennsylvania - 33 per 100K
7. Rhode Island - 33 per 100K
8. Vermont - 30 per 100K
9. New Hampshire - 30 per 100K
10. Massachusetts - 28 per 100K
11. Minnesota - 28 per 100K
12. Florida - 25 per 100K
13. Colorado - 25 per 100K
14. Alaska - 24 per 100K
15. Nebraska - 23 per 100K
16. West Virginia - 23 per 100K
17. Maryland - 22 per 100K
18. Illinois - 21 per 100K
19. Maine - 20 per 100K
20. North Dakota - 20 per 100K
21. South Dakota - 18 per 100K

Lockdowns v no-lockdowns...pretty obvious lockdowns aren't working. Lockdown states v non-lockdown states show no correlation whatsoever. None. Absolutely none. Locking down has done nothing to slow the spread.

LOL!

The very first sentence of your post “Johns Hopkins doctor says herd immunity here.”

What?

 

[Steeltime]

 

[Tibs]

why not continue the conversation we were ... or, should i say, I was attempting to have with you? use the CDC's numbers as the guideline for your response.

1. I don't think a couple of hundred covid positive immigrants are moving the needle - one way or another - regarding the overall rates of infection in the States.
2. I don't think covid positive immigrants - or covid negative immigrants, for that matter - should be allowed in unmitigated.
3. I do think the situation on the southern border is being amplifed by pro-Trump Republicans & right wing media in an entirely treacherous manner.
4. I do think the Biden administration and Homeland Security need to do a better job on the southern border.

All of the above are true. Nothing is black and white, it's always shades of grey. High time you incorporate some subtlety into your political views.

 

[Superman]

1. I don't think a couple of hundred covid positive immigrants are moving the needle - one way or another - regarding the overall rates of infection in the States.
2. I don't think covid positive immigrants - or covid negative immigrants, for that matter - should be allowed in unmitigated.
3. I do think the situation on the southern border is being amplifed by pro-Trump Republicans & right wing media in an entirely treacherous manner.
4. I do think the Biden administration and Homeland Security need to do a better job on the southern border.

All of the above are true. Nothing is black and white, it's always shades of grey. High time you incorporate some subtlety into your political views.

1. yet you lost your **** over a party in the Ozarks by college kids that totaled far less than the number of immigrants not "moving the needle - one way or another - regarding the overall rates of infection in the States."

2. yet you do not know that these immigrants are being immunized. thus, they can very well be fettered in unchecked and dropped off. but, alas, per your statement above, they're not "moving the needle - one way or another - regarding the overall rates of infection in the States"

3. WOW. Really? you actually said that? i mean, for 4 years all we ******* heard every goddamned day was that Trump was putting kids in cages. And you were there to parrot it all, endlessly. NOW its not a big deal?

4. How about they do a job? Regardless, you just stated that the "CRISIS" (as said by the MSM for 4 years) is not a big deal, so why should they even bother with anything? Per your own statements, the Vancouver Canucks are the ones bringing the Kung Flu here.

By my count - and I did not use Common Core, nor did I stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night - that is 1, 2, 3, 4 FOUR instances of hypocrisy in one post.

 

[IndySteel]

1. yet you lost your **** over a party in the Ozarks by college kids that totaled far less than the number of immigrants not "moving the needle - one way or another - regarding the overall rates of infection in the States."

2. yet you do not know that these immigrants are being immunized. thus, they can very well be fettered in unchecked and dropped off. but, alas, per your statement above, they're not "moving the needle - one way or another - regarding the overall rates of infection in the States"

3. WOW. Really? you actually said that? i mean, for 4 years all we ******* heard every goddamned day was that Trump was putting kids in cages. And you were there to parrot it all, endlessly. NOW its not a big deal?

4. How about they do a job? Regardless, you just stated that the "CRISIS" (as said by the MSM for 4 years) is not a big deal, so why should they even bother with anything? Per your own statements, the Vancouver Canucks are the ones bringing the Kung Flu here.

By my count - and I did not use Common Core, nor did I stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night - that is 1, 2, 3, 4 FOUR instances of hypocrisy in one post.

That's FOUR instances of douchebaggery as well.

 

[Troglodyte]

Yeah, my earlier post about the severe outbreak up north with the Vancouver Canucks was immediately met by pointing to the immigration issues at the southern border.

It's like a part of American society is living in a strange, twisted, bizarro, upside-down world. It's been that way since the former guy unleashed MAGA on an unsuspecting nation.

I hope there's a way back from the madness. Sadly, it seems clear it won't happen overnight, or maybe even any time soon.

I can only imagine how disappointed they must be to find out that QAnon is non other than a nerdy Asian dude named Ron Watkins.

 

[Steeltime]

I can only imagine how disappointed they must be to find out that QAnon is non other than a nerdy Asian dude named Ron Watkins.

I can name maybe five people who claim to know anything about QAnon - Nancy Pelosi, Joe Biden, Ilhan Omar, Flog and Decaf.* I literally have never heard a thing about whatever it is or who they are. Never. Nobody on this forum has ever mentioned the thing except Flog and Decaf.

Liberals ... "Wahhh, our ideological adversaries are such meanies we make up pretend bad guys that we stand a chance in debating."

* Coffee clown is such a fake, he shall hereafter be known as "Decaf."

 

[Troglodyte]

I can name maybe five people who claim to know anything about QAnon - Nancy Pelosi, Joe Biden, Ilhan Omar, Flog and Decaf.* I literally have never heard a thing about whatever it is or who they are. Never. Nobody on this forum has ever mentioned the thing except Flog and Decaf.

Trump.

So this board had everything else in common with the insurgent crowd, but you drew the line when it came to allegiance to QAnon?

I’d have an easier time believing that if I hadn’t read so many bat **** crazy deep state conspiracies here that I later learned were strangely similar to those spread by Q. I suspect you’re just not willing to admit to what kind of conspiracy porn you beat off to.

 

[Tibs]

Trump. So this board had everything else in common with the insurgent crowd, but you drew the line when it came to allegiance to QAnon?

I’d have an easier time believing that if I hadn’t read so many bat **** crazy deep state conspiracies here that I later learned were strangely similar to those spread by Q. I suspect you’re just not willing to admit to what kind of conspiracy porn you beat off to.

The fact is, much of the Q conspiracies get seeped into - and intertwined with - general MAGA ideology. They themselves may not be aware what bit of falsehood came from where. Trump was a master at this, mushing together lies and conspiracies from various sources, then when confronted, standing back and claiming - gasp - he'd never heard of such a thing.

Same with the vicious cycle you saw play out w Trump & FoxNews. Where Hannity, Tucker or some other shmuck would suggest and amplify something stupid, minutes later Trump would tweet it out, then a few hours later Fox anchors would interview Trump on the same issue, as if Trump had come up with it himself. After a while, it was hard to tell which stupid, hairbrained idea came from Fox and got into Trump's ear, or actually eminated from Trump and Fox reported on it.

You see the same being played out here.

It's a real clownshow Trog, not sure we'll ever be able to understand or decipher it.

 

[Confluence]

Yeah, my earlier post about the severe outbreak up north with the Vancouver Canucks was immediately met by pointing to the immigration issues at the southern border.

It's like a part of American society is living in a strange, twisted, bizarro, upside-down world. It's been that way since the former guy unleashed MAGA on an unsuspecting nation.

I hope there's a way back from the madness. Sadly, it seems clear it won't happen overnight, or maybe even any time soon.

Vile Comrade Tibs, useful idiot.

Here is the news about the Canucks team, embedded in this article...with perhaps 2 players maybe more, testing positive......not quite the severe outbreak you mention.

Daly: Canucks' numbers are 'concerning' https://www.tsn.ca/1.1618408.1617657574

 

[Sarge]

Record low flu cases show how COVID-19 is more contagious and 'less forgiving,' experts say

Experts say that high vaccination rates combined with social distancing, mask-wearing and handwashing have played a role in preventing spread.

www.usatoday.com

Indy, your the poster child for fake news. CDC has 65K flu cases in 2019 and you post something referring to 38 million.
If flu cases are low from mask wearing, social distancing, hand washing, maybe we need to continue these practices forever.

From the CDC:

Preliminary In-Season 2019-2020 Flu Burden Estimates

CDC's weekly cumulative in-season estimates of flu cases, medical visits, hospitalizations and deaths in the United States.

www.cdc.gov

 

[Steeltime]

Trump.

So this board had everything else in common with the insurgent crowd, but you drew the line when it came to allegiance to QAnon?

I’d have an easier time believing that if I hadn’t read so many bat **** crazy deep state conspiracies here that I later learned were strangely similar to those spread by Q. I suspect you’re just not willing to admit to what kind of conspiracy porn you beat off to.

Find one person on this forum - ONE - other than you lying ***** who has ever cited, referred to, quoted, propagated or advanced anything related to QAnon. Go ahead. We will all wait.

Also, in terms of conspiracy porn, why is it the pages on your "Covid Deaths Daily" magazine stick together?

 

[Tibs]

Find one person on this forum - ONE - other than you lying ***** who has ever cited, referred to, quoted, propagated or advanced anything related to QAnon. Go ahead. We will all wait.

You don't get it, do you? A fairly large portion of the content on this board over the years has heavily mirrored the batshit crazy conspiracies parroted by Qanon and Trump himself. It's like being out at sea looking at the horizon, and you can't quite distinguish where the sea ends and the sky begins.

Call it whatever you want... Qanon, Trump's mad rants, conspiracy theories hocked by Ingraham, Hannity & Carlson on Fox, crazy theories cooked up in the shadowy corners of Alt right blogs & think tanks.

You know, like the elections being fraudulent and stolen, the Hunter Biden laptop drama, Michelle Obama is actually a man, Biden being mentally debilitated, Dems turning America into a communist state, Obama was a socialist/Muslim, fake news media, Soros running things behind the scenes, blah blah blah.

It's MAGA ideology in all its glory, layed bare here on the board for the world to see.