So 10% of the population have nearly a hundred percent of survival if they were to get it. It should be a man or woman's right to choose in a free society...I've heard that expression before in different context.
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Yeah, you bring up a very valid point. The only argument I can raise in response is that ending the suffering of a human runs the potential risk of that process being abused by family members to end the life of somebody who has significant time left, but who are a "bother" to some in the family.
But you're right. Most of us have seen family members - people we love as much as anybody on earth - suffering at the end and cannot stand seeing them non-cognizant, or in mortal pain, or both.
Actually a hospital in, ****, want to say MA just tossed out a case. The hospital laid off over 180 people because of it. I can’t imagine how short staffed they are now
I agree and can see your point but there's a big difference between a loved one living out their last year's in a nursing home to someone who has days/hours to live and is struggling for everyl last breath. There has to be a middle ground.
CDC says roughly 4,100 people have been hospitalized or died with Covid breakthrough infections after vaccination
At least 750 fully vaccinated people have died after contracting Covid but the CDC noted that 142 of those fatalities were asymptomatic or unrelated to Covid.
No doubt. The cases that I am referring to involve people with cognitive decline to the point the person cannot express a view on ending physical suffering and the request to end the person's suffering is made by family members. The Netherlands has sanctioned euthanasia since 2002, and the only cases that have been a problem are those involving family members suffering dementia as well as a painful, fatal disease. The patient has to be suffering an "unbearable, incurable" condition, diagnosed by at least two doctors. Even that system has been abused, because people are people.
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Right... they'll keep propping that cash cow up as long as possible.
I stand corrected, my apologies, it was the WHO, and they just changed their stance 2 days ago, from stating vaccinations should not be given to the young and healthy to the following:
"Children and adolescents tend to have milder disease compared to adults, so unless they are part of a group at higher risk of severe COVID-19, it is less urgent to vaccinate them than older people, those with chronic health conditions and health workers. More evidence is needed on the use of the different COVID-19 vaccines in children to be able to make general recommendations on vaccinating children against COVID-19."
Which was the point I was trying to make. We have a vaccine where we have no idea of the long term side effects, and the short term side effects have been devastating to a small percentage of young people. At some point people have to make an informed decision for themselves if the risk outweighs the potential benefit. I still contend that if you are young and healthy, it doesn't warrant getting it, and won't until we know more about the long term effects of this unique, novel vaccine.
You are certainly entitled to your point of view, but you are not entitled to force it upon others.
Speaking of that:
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Gee, lemme take a little time to think about this one.
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I'll definitely defer to you on this one, but I honestly think if you're 55 or younger without the comorbidities, you should be good. Hell, I'd even go older than that personally, but I'm probably a monster for thinking that.
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Monster?!!? I dont think so Steelworth..
I check all the boxes in your post..
I'm very blest and fortunate for my age......knock on wood..
59 years young, on no meds, BP, sugar, cholesterol all good..
Slightly pudgy at 5'9 - 195-200lbs...give a guy a break, Im pushing the big 6-0!!
Haven't taken the jab yet......still debating in my mind though..
Well, if you're debating taking the jab, the FDA officially added warnings finally admitting...there are inherent risks in taking the vax.
What's a little heart inflammation among friends though right?
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What's a little heart inflammation among friends though right?
FDA adds heart inflammation warning to Pfizer, Moderna COVID-19 vaccines - LifeSite
Fact sheets for both patients and healthcare providers have been updated, the FDA announced last week, adding that the change 'follows an extensive review of information' and a meeting of the CDC’s vaccine safety committee last week.
www.lifesitenews.com
So the FDA has them approved right? Wait…..still no. HmmmWell, if you're debating taking the jab, the FDA officially added warnings finally admitting...there are inherent risks in taking the vax.
What's a little heart inflammation among friends though right?
FDA adds heart inflammation warning to Pfizer, Moderna COVID-19 vaccines - LifeSite
Fact sheets for both patients and healthcare providers have been updated, the FDA announced last week, adding that the change 'follows an extensive review of information' and a meeting of the CDC’s vaccine safety committee last week.
Well, if you're debating taking the jab, the FDA officially added warnings finally admitting...there are inherent risks in taking the vax.
What's a little heart inflammation among friends though right?
FDA adds heart inflammation warning to Pfizer, Moderna COVID-19 vaccines - LifeSite
Fact sheets for both patients and healthcare providers have been updated, the FDA announced last week, adding that the change 'follows an extensive review of information' and a meeting of the CDC’s vaccine safety committee last week.
Know someone (younger person) who's experiencing severe fatigue and heart palpitations ever since she got her shot. She's going to the Dr. soon to see what they come up with. She said she's drinking a ****-ton of coffee because the fatigue is so bad and doesn't know if that's contributing to the palpitations or not, but she's pretty damn scared.
I try to be as practical (or whatever you want to call it) as I possibly can when it comes to the "placebo effect" or the power of suggestion, but there are just too many instances of people having some pretty severe adverse effects. We know of one who's certainly had a rough go of it, poor *******.
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Fear porn. A (very little) heart inflammation among friends is better than a highly contagious virus among friends. Hence the recommendation that young people still get vaccinated.Well, if you're debating taking the jab, the FDA officially added warnings finally admitting...there are inherent risks in taking the vax.
What's a little heart inflammation among friends though right?
FDA adds heart inflammation warning to Pfizer, Moderna COVID-19 vaccines - LifeSite
Fact sheets for both patients and healthcare providers have been updated, the FDA announced last week, adding that the change 'follows an extensive review of information' and a meeting of the CDC’s vaccine safety committee last week.
And guess what Tim? Highly vaccinated New Jersey is going against CDC guidelines by not requiring masks for school children in the fall. So how was mask wearing an ideology, again? Not seeing many of them anymore. Science continues to crush your conspiracy theories.
Do you have a young child? If so did you give them the jab?
Quislings like Flog don't have to practice what they preach - ever. Lockdowns for you, trips to Florida for him. Lockdowns for you, Floggy never misses a paycheck. "We're all in this together," Freeloader Floggy continues to welfare his way on Steeler Nation. Floggy cites an order from New Jersey schools doing away with masking kids and claims it proves his point (some point, he specifies what or how the order proves anything). Uhh, no, Flog. The Chinese flu is still here, and the schools realize the masking was always bullshit, particularly for kids. That's it.
Still waiting for that list of things Trump was told to do about the Chinese flu and refused, or steps he should have taken to lessen the effect of the Chinese flu. How's that list going, Floggy? Right now the list consists of:
- Take the vaccine in public.
Flog wants to inject children with medication they really don't need and simply ignores first rule of medical care - "Do no harm."
My Dad was hospitalized for a week with a racing heart rate after he got the shots. His doctor recommended it even though he’s 81. I’d like to kick that little Indian with a dot right in his Flog.
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Two teenagers both got vaccinated.