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Covid Vaccine

It almost as if the tens of thousands of Florida Covid deaths in the past three months never happened… if you’re an ideologue. Enjoy your consolation prize!

Incredible deflection away from the point.

Why is the highest vaccinated state in the union, 35x smaller than Florida, finding itself with MORE cases....if the vaccines work?

I'll wait.
 

The vaccines are not 95% effective at either case prevention or death.

You keep missing the point, but then again we could strap the point to a cannon ball launched at your head and you'd still not grasp it.
 
I'll wait.

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"Uh. Cause if it's 35x smaller, that means the peepoze aren't as big and their immune systems aren't as gooder! HA!"

- FloggedbyLife
 
No, no, no!

I expect “these differences”. I understand the efficacy of the vaccines and accept science and facts. You seemingly think “these differences” are pure chance and coincidence.

Vermont’s a cold weather state, it’s November, they will have Covid cases, they won’t have many deaths thanks to the vaccines.

You don't have a clue about the efficacy of these vaccines, as demonstrated for over 200 pages.

I know that these "differences" are attributable to the vaccines waning in efficacy.

What's hysterical is how you now spin away from VT setting ALL TIME record highs in cases, and equivalent deaths now to their worst peak ever to "cold weather" and it is expected. LMAO. They are currently experiencing as many deaths in this wave as they did in their highest.


Vermont reported 377 new Covid-19 cases Friday — far fewer than Thursday’s record-setting total, but far higher than the average from the past week.

The state retroactively revised Thursday’s total up from 487 cases to 498 cases, the highest one-day total during the pandemic. Friday’s case count is the second-highest total. Together, they raised the seven-day average to 265 cases per day.

Those vaccines are really working. Yep.

That data shows that not-fully-vaccinated Vermonters have been about four times more likely to get sick, four times more likely to be hospitalized and twice as likely to die of the virus than fully vaccinated people in recent weeks.

Now just wait a minute. You've been spouting 95% effectiveness against deaths. The State of VT now says those unvaccinated are 2x more likely to die. You've been spouting 12x, 10x, 15x more likely.

Weird how as time passes, these numbers continue to drop, meaning the chances of dying while being vaxed increase. Odd that, is it not?

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Those protection numbers continue to slide downward from 95%, 15x, 12x, 10x, 9x....to only 1.9x for deaths. How far will they go down?

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These vaccines, compared to their peers, are terrible.
 
I wish there was a "you just got knocked the **** out" emoji, but I'm not sure what it'd look like. Maybe Flogged with a swollen, black eye.
 
I’ve heard rumors that there is going to be a National public debate about the vaccines

Its going to be all high end officials with a lot of knowledge from NIH and otger health organizations… there are people there pro and anti vax so we can hear from… no other details… just a rumor
 
New Zealand rising up. Watch this bad *** haka dance.



More.



New Zealand bikers:

 
My daughter is in elementary school, but the middle school in our school district is closing for 2 weeks due to a COVID outbreak. I think this is the first time any schools around me have actually closed this year.
 
let me ask you something. and respond in complete honesty, if you can.

backstory:
I went to visit relatives in New Jersey. We took a day trip to Philadelphia. Specifically to Reading Terminal Market. Ever been there? It's pretty ******* amazing. If you haven't, it's like an indoor flea market of food, candy, desserts, alcohol, and restaurants. There's delis, lots of places to eat at, lots of places selling beer and wine, liquor is sold...

to enter you must wear a mask. required. no way around it. as you go through the place, you're literally brushing shoulders or elbows or sides as you weave through the maze of people. place is packed. from what I understand, it's always like that. picture a fairgrounds setting during a busy time. that's what this is. And there are people sitting down at tables eating. the walkways are so tight that you literally have to turn sideways to go around people.

the people sitting down are not masked. even if they're not eating or drinking.

yet the people all around them are masked.

oh, and you can imagine that it's loud in there. so people will pull down masks to order from a retailer. masks pulled down, then back up. sometimes not pulled right back up. sometimes forgotten to pull back up.

does this make even one iota of sense to enforce masks?

some pics from online:

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Did you try Scrapple?

There are lots of Amish booths in there. Were they masked?
 
Did you try Scrapple?

There are lots of Amish booths in there. Were they masked?

Not the Amish :). They beat this by....letting herd immunity work. Which has worked for tens of thousands of years.
 
Pure, utter coincidence. They are soccer players. Not conditioned, they don't have strong hearts, clearly weak people.


German Media Reports 'Puzzling' Surge in Heart Disease Among Soccer Players​

What could possibly be causing "an unusually large" number of professional and amateur soccer players to collapse on the field with heart problems?

The Berliner Zeitung doesn't have a clue.





From The Berliner Zeitung (as translated by Google):
Puzzling heart diseases in football

An unusually large number of professional and amateur soccer players have collapsed recently.

11/9/2021 - 6:13 a.m.

Berlin - The professional player Sergio Agüero from FC Barcelona will be out for at least three months. The 33-year-old was substituted for the game against Deportivo Alavés with breathing problems. He was holding his chest and was admitted to a hospital. He is now being treated by a cardiologist for heart problems. At the European Championship, the player Christian Eriksen collapsed in front of the cameras. Diagnosis: cardiac arrest. Eriksen survived. The two professionals are just two examples of many footballers who struggle with heart problems, some of which are life-threatening.
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The German Heart Foundation says: “Depending on the study, there are between 0.7 and 3.0 deaths per year for every 100,000 people involved in sports.” According to the experts, men are more often affected than women: “According to data from the German registry on sudden cardiac death Sport (Sudden Cardiac Death Register, SCD Germany), 96% of the athletes affected are men ”, according to the foundation. As for the causes, it is said that sudden cardiac death during exercise has "different triggers".

Causes differ depending on the age of those affected

The causes differ depending on the age of the person affected. “In people under the age of 35, diseases of the heart muscle, the heart valves, the main artery (aorta) and the coronary arteries are possible triggers. Changes in the genetic material can, for example, lead to thickening of the muscles in the left ventricle (hypertrophic cardiomyopathy). Diseases, especially those affecting the right ventricle (arrhythmogenic (right ventricular) cardiomyopathy) can also be the cause of sudden cardiac death, ”says the Heart Foundation.

In people over 35, however, at around 80 percent, “coronary artery disease is the most common cause of sudden cardiac death. Coronary arteries are narrowing more and more due to deposits (plaques) of cholesterol, connective tissue and calcium. If these plaques tear, blood clots sometimes develop and the blood vessel is completely closed. ”The result is a heart attack, which“ can be associated with life-threatening cardiac arrhythmias ”.

Irrespective of age, heart muscle inflammation (myocarditis) is another risk factor. "It can already occur in the course of banal virus infections, even without causing symptoms," says the German Heart Foundation. And further: "These inflammatory changes can lead to life-threatening cardiac arrhythmias."
The obvious suspect is not even mentioned once in the entire article.

Just like the surge in hospital patients in America, Australia and Sweden who are "sicker than ever" but do not have covid -- this is just one of life's eternal mysteries!
 
Hmmmm.....


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"ERs are now swamped with seriously ill patients — but many don't even have COVID," Michigan Radio reported last week.
Inside the emergency department at Sparrow Hospital in Lansing, Mich., staff members are struggling to care for patients who are showing up much sicker than they've ever seen.

Tiffani Dusang, the emergency room's nursing director, practically vibrates with pent-up anxiety, looking at all the patients lying on a long line of stretchers pushed up against the beige walls of the hospital's hallways. "It's hard to watch," she says in her warm Texan twang.

But there's nothing she can do. The ER's 72 rooms are already filled.

[...] Even in parts of the country where COVID-19 isn't overwhelming the health system, patients are showing up to the ER sicker than they were before the pandemic, their diseases more advanced and in need of more complicated care.

Months of treatment delays have exacerbated chronic conditions and worsened symptoms. Doctors and nurses say the severity of illness ranges widely and includes abdominal pain, respiratory problems, blood clots, heart conditions and suicide attempts, among others.
Australia is now reporting the same.

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"Australia's hospitals under pressure, despite COVID-19 respite, as healthcare workers prepare for Delta threat, AMA report finds," ABC.net.au reported Thursday.
Australian hospitals are already overwhelmed and falling behind, even with the "once-in-a-generation" slowdown in patient numbers that came with COVID-19, an AMA report has found.

[...] According to the report, the number of patients leaving the emergency departments within four hours dropped to 69 per cent, its worst level since 2012–13.
Western Australia Premier Mark McGowan mentioned the surge in patients during a press conference on Sunday:



Similar is happening in Sweden, as P4 Jönköping reported last month (article translated by Google):

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What could possibly be causing a surge in blood clots, heart attacks, heart conditions and weakened immune systems?
 
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No need to worry though, the media says that means it's working!

From VRT NWS, "70% of hospitalised Covid patients are vaccinated, but the vaccines are working":
70% of hospitalised Covid patients are vaccinated, but the vaccines are working

Belgian health minister Vandenbroucke (Flemish socialist/Vooruit) told the health select committee up to seventy percent of Covid patients in Flemish hospitals are fully vaccinated. The figure may raise an eyebrow, but on closer inspection doesn't mean the vaccines are not working.

Colin Clapson
Sat 30 Oct 10:00


333 patients were in a Flemish hospital with Covid between 16 and 22 October. 70.9% were fully vaccinated. 29.1% were not. However, the facts still show that people with Covid who are unvaccinated end up in hospital more quickly than patients who are fully vaccinated. In Flanders over 90% of adults are fully vaccinated and this group is far larger than the group of unvaccinated people.
Note how they rounded 70.9% down for their headline to "70%."
Look at Belgium as a whole are the figure for the same period shows 54% of Covid patients in hospital were fully vaccinated, a reflection of the lower vaccination rates in some parts of the country.
They left it out of their article but the number of "fully vaccinated" in Belgium as a whole is supposedly 73.7% as of Oct 16, according to Our World in Data.

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VRT NWS continues:
The figures also show that overall and compared with earlier waves fewer people are ending up in hospital when they catch Covid. The number of hospitalisations during the current fourth wave is markedly lower than during the three previous waves. Hospitalisations, admissions to ICUs and the number of patients on a ventilator are all far lower as this Sciensano chart shows.

A comparison between September/October last year and this year shows over 5.5% of cases ended up in hospital last year, whereas this year the figure hasn't exceeded 3.5%.

Steven Callens of Ghent University Hospital UZ explains why fully vaccinated people are ending up in hospital: "The delta variant is catchier. Corona measures were relaxed in October and protection against mild illness through vaccination does start to wane after six months".

Fully vaccinated patients in hospital are often older and may have underlying health issues.

"Few healthy vaccinated people end up in hospital. If they do, hospitalisation is shorter" says Callens. "In critical care many patients are not fully vaccinated".
Few healthy unvaxxed people end up in the hospital as well. They don't provide any source showing the vaxxed are on average more unhealthy.
Figures from the health minister show 60% of patients in Flemish ICUs are fully vaccinated, 40% are unvaccinated."
Note how they keep stating "fully vaccinated."

Here in America, the CDC defines "fully vaccinated" as two weeks out from your second shot. Most countries do similar.

That means if you have side effects from the first shot or the second shot and end up in the hospital up to two weeks after the second shot you'll be counted statistically as someone who is "unvaccinated."

It's a very simple way to fix the numbers and count vaccine side effects as the supposed consequences of being "unvaccinated."

Regardless, the whole idea behind these shots from day one was that they were 90%+ effective at preventing you from getting covid, which has been admitted for months now to be completely false.



Next, the reason to get the shots evolved into them preventing you from being hospitalized, which is also now being shown to have been (at the very least) wildly exaggerated.

Remember how many times we were told "over 99%" of hospitalized covid patients were unvaxxed?
 

Covid-19 Vaccines and Myocarditis Link Probed by Researchers​

Several theories are under investigation seeking to explain heart-inflammation conditions among small numbers of vaccinated

As U.S. health authorities expand use of the leading Covid-19 vaccines, researchers investigating heart-related risks linked to the shots are exploring several emerging theories, including one centered on the spike protein made in response to vaccination.

Researchers aren’t certain why the messenger RNA vaccines, one from Pfizer Inc. PFE 10.86%▲ and partner BioNTech SE BNTX -20.92%▲ and the other from Moderna Inc., MRNA -16.56%▲ are likely causing the inflammatory heart conditions myocarditis and pericarditis in a small number of cases.

Some theories center on the type of spike protein that a person makes in response to the mRNA vaccines. The mRNA itself or other components of the vaccines, researchers say, could also be setting off certain inflammatory responses in some people.

One new theory under examination: improper injections of the vaccine directly into a vein, which sends the vaccine to heart muscle.

To find answers, some doctors and scientists are running tests in lab dishes and examining heart-tissue samples from people who developed myocarditis or pericarditis after getting vaccinated.

Myocarditis describes inflammation of the heart muscle, while pericarditis refers to inflammation of the sac surrounding the muscle.

Covid-19 itself can cause both conditions. They have also been reported in a smaller number of people who got an mRNA vaccine, most commonly in men under 30 years and adolescent males.

About 877 confirmed cases of myocarditis in vaccinated people under 30 years have been reported in the U.S., out of 86 million mRNA vaccine doses administered, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

The risk is higher within seven days of the second dose of the Pfizer-BioNTech and Moderna vaccines, the Food and Drug Administration says. Most myocarditis cases in vaccinated people are relatively mild, and patients get better on their own or with minimal treatment, doctors say.

The CDC recommends that anyone 5 years and older should get vaccinated, saying the benefits of preventing Covid-19 illness, hospitalizations and death far outweigh the risk of myocarditis, even in younger males.

Researchers have been trying to understand the link between the cases and vaccination, as health authorities expand the vaccination campaign by recommending boosters and broadening use of the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine to younger children.

The FDA has, however, held up authorizing use of the Moderna vaccine in adolescents while it investigates the risk

Some theories about the vaccines’ link to myocarditis center on the spike protein on the surface of the coronavirus.

The spike protein helps the virus gain entry into human cells to replicate. The mRNA vaccines are designed to cause the body to make a certain version of the spike protein, which then sets off an immune response.

The immune response includes neutralizing antibodies that target the spike protein and thereby block the virus’s ability to get inside cells and replicate. The immune response can protect a person against Covid-19 or lessen its severity if someone is exposed to the virus.

Yet there may be similarities between the spike protein and proteins found in the heart muscle, prompting the body’s immune defenses to mobilize against the heart, according to Biykem Bozkurt, a professor of medicine specializing in cardiology at Baylor College of Medicine in Houston.

The antibodies against the spike protein may have the unintended effect of acting against heart proteins, said Dr. Bozkurt, who co-wrote a review of vaccine-associated myocarditis in the journal Circulation in July.

This “molecular mimicry” theory hasn’t been fully tested in vaccinated people and doesn’t explain why myocarditis only occurs in certain people, she said.

Some of the mRNA in the vaccines may also be taken up by heart cells known as cardiomyocytes, said Jay Schneider, a consultant in cardiovascular medicine at the Mayo Clinic’s Jacksonville, Fla., campus.

These cells may then produce the spike protein of the coronavirus, which could draw an antibody response against them, Dr. Schneider said. He said he has conducted lab tests and found that heart cells have taken up the Moderna vaccine and then expressed the spike protein.

Dr. Schneider hasn’t yet published results from these experiments in a peer-reviewed journal, and said they should be interpreted with caution.
Some doctors have theorized that improper injections of the vaccines may be contributing.

The shots are supposed to be injected into the shoulder muscle, also known as the deltoid muscle. If the injection accidentally reaches a vein, it could lead to delivery of some of the vaccine to the heart through blood vessels.

Hong Kong researchers found that injecting mice intravenously with the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine induced both myocarditis and pericarditis in the animals, according to results published online in August by the journal Clinical Infectious Diseases.

That myocarditis appears to happen more among younger males after vaccination than in other age and sex groups suggests a link to the hormone testosterone, which is usually at high levels in younger males, according to researchers.

Testosterone may heighten an inflammatory immune response, Dr. Bozkurt said, leading to myocarditis in some male adolescents and young men.

Some studies have suggested that Moderna’s vaccine carries a higher risk of myocarditis than Pfizer’s. If this difference is confirmed, it could be related to differences in dose levels, Moderna Chief Executive Stéphane Bancel said. Moderna’s vaccine contains more mRNA per dose than Pfizer’s.

Some vaccine specialists have cited the dose difference as one reason that the Moderna vaccine’s effectiveness against Covid-19 appears to hold up for longer than Pfizer’s.
Mr. Bancel said the benefit-risk ratio for Moderna’s vaccine is still favorable for younger males.
 
Did you try Scrapple?

There are lots of Amish booths in there. Were they masked?
no, I sure didnt. Somehow skipped my mind with all the food there.
Interestingly enough, as Tim said, the Amish were 100% not sporting a face diaper.
 

500,000 deaths in Europe by February.

remember that. 500,000.
 
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