There are a few other agencies...they slip my mind now. I'll have to go do some research. Something Floggy has never thought of doing. If it doesn't come from Lester Holt, it ain't be true.
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There are a few other agencies...they slip my mind now. I'll have to go do some research. Something Floggy has never thought of doing. If it doesn't come from Lester Holt, it ain't be true.
no one is saying you should NOT get vaccinated.
people are saying it should be a choice, not a mandate. for precisely why this ******* country was ******* founded. if you fail to understand that, you're more dense than OgreShit.
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Except the mandates offer exemptions to certain "employees" . I think Zona just gave a short list of those that are exempt.
You know..........mandates for thee, but not for me!
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100% correct.
now, do splain how peepoze aints be get no bed when hospittuls be firin nurses and docs fo not gettin da jabby jab.
we'll wait.
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Look, I just want to understand his position. It seems he's saying that mandates aren't really mandates especially when you are mandated to make a choice of your own free will. I think.
is aint senators, their staff, representatives and their staff, anyone elected essentially a government "EMPLOYEE"?
if so, and that's not disputable, why are those "employees" exempt? if everyone MUST be
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PolitiFact - Alex Berenson misrepresents data on death rates by vaccination status in England
Alex Berenson, a former New York Times reporter who has questioned the safety of COVID-19 vaccines and whose posts are s
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Got this back from Toomey today. I wrote him when osha released their mandate.
December 2, 2021
Dear Mr. Xxx
Thank you for contacting my office regarding vaccination requirements. I appreciate hearing from you.
As you may know, on September 9, 2021, the Biden Administration announced a series of rulemakings and executive actions to effectively require vaccination against COVID-19 for all federal agency employees (including contractors), employers with 100 or more employees, and staff in most health care settings serving Medicare and Medicaid patients. On November 5, 2021, the Occupational Safety and Health Administration (OSHA) and the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services (CMS) published interim final rules regarding the September-announced requirements.
I believe receiving the vaccine is the right choice for most of America given its effectiveness in reducing the risk of infection, hospitalization, and death due to COVID-19. My family and I received the vaccine, and I encourage everyone medically able to make that same decision. That being said, while I believe private businesses and state and local governments should be able to establish vaccination requirements at their discretion, I do not believe it is the appropriate role of the federal government to impose universal vaccination requirements. Indeed, the outlined requirements and a fine of $13,650 per violation included in OSHA’s interim final rule will further alienate the skeptical and could easily force an employer that has taken considerable steps to encourage vaccination among its staff to be penalized, cut employees, or even close its doors. I will be joining many of my Republican colleagues in an attempt to revoke this mandate via the Congressional Review Act in hopes of stopping it before it causes unnecessary harm.
Please be assured that my staff and I continue to monitor the development of vaccination policies within the Commonwealth and across the federal government. I greatly value your perspective on this issue and will be sure to keep your thoughts in mind should this question be further litigated in the court system or legislation relating to vaccination requirements come before the Senate.
Thank you again for your correspondence. Do not hesitate to contact me in the future if I can be of assistance.
Sincerely,
Pat Toomey
U.S. Senator, Pennsylvania
December 2, 2021
Dear Mr. Xxx
Thank you for contacting my office regarding vaccination requirements. I appreciate hearing from you.
As you may know, on September 9, 2021, the Biden Administration announced a series of rulemakings and executive actions to effectively require vaccination against COVID-19 for all federal agency employees (including contractors), employers with 100 or more employees, and staff in most health care settings serving Medicare and Medicaid patients. On November 5, 2021, the Occupational Safety and Health Administration (OSHA) and the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services (CMS) published interim final rules regarding the September-announced requirements.
I believe receiving the vaccine is the right choice for most of America given its effectiveness in reducing the risk of infection, hospitalization, and death due to COVID-19. My family and I received the vaccine, and I encourage everyone medically able to make that same decision. That being said, while I believe private businesses and state and local governments should be able to establish vaccination requirements at their discretion, I do not believe it is the appropriate role of the federal government to impose universal vaccination requirements. Indeed, the outlined requirements and a fine of $13,650 per violation included in OSHA’s interim final rule will further alienate the skeptical and could easily force an employer that has taken considerable steps to encourage vaccination among its staff to be penalized, cut employees, or even close its doors. I will be joining many of my Republican colleagues in an attempt to revoke this mandate via the Congressional Review Act in hopes of stopping it before it causes unnecessary harm.
Please be assured that my staff and I continue to monitor the development of vaccination policies within the Commonwealth and across the federal government. I greatly value your perspective on this issue and will be sure to keep your thoughts in mind should this question be further litigated in the court system or legislation relating to vaccination requirements come before the Senate.
Thank you again for your correspondence. Do not hesitate to contact me in the future if I can be of assistance.
Sincerely,
Pat Toomey
U.S. Senator, Pennsylvania
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Just so we're clear where all the Covid disinformation is coming from, that is gobbled up, chewed, swallowed, and regurgitated by our esteemed, resident MAGAs. 
www.rferl.org
Study Shows How Russian, Chinese Disinformation About COVID-19 Evolved During The Pandemic
A new report analyzes the countries' stepped-up global disinformation campaigns about the coronavirus during the pandemic and how they're learning from each other.
PolitiFact - Alex Berenson misrepresents data on death rates by vaccination status in England
Alex Berenson, a former New York Times reporter who has questioned the safety of COVID-19 vaccines and whose posts are s
Politifact's explanation, from the footnote of England's data. While what Berenson said was correct, the data did in fact show what he said it did, what it says isn't exactly what it means, errr, ummm, because of this gem:
Age adjusted mortality. Never used, until needed to spin the data. Rich!
More Russian Chinese disinformation. Ya'll remember Thalidomide?
Remember the Thalidomide scandal that hit the UK, US, Germany, and other countries. "The science" said it was an effective medication for morning sickness (IIRC) which it was, and so for 5 years it was prescribed to pregnant mothers...and only then did they realize that the large number of horrendously deformed babies (many of which died) were due to Thalidomide.
It took 5 years to identify the issue and the root cause. It's been little over a year since the Covid vaccine rollouts began. No matter how much testing you do you cannot test long-term outcomes without time. Were we to see a 21st century repeat of something like Thalidomide with these vaccines, it would be a a medical disaster, with over a billion people affected, it would be...beyond words.
"The science" was trusted back then to.
Remember the Thalidomide scandal that hit the UK, US, Germany, and other countries. "The science" said it was an effective medication for morning sickness (IIRC) which it was, and so for 5 years it was prescribed to pregnant mothers...and only then did they realize that the large number of horrendously deformed babies (many of which died) were due to Thalidomide.
It took 5 years to identify the issue and the root cause. It's been little over a year since the Covid vaccine rollouts began. No matter how much testing you do you cannot test long-term outcomes without time. Were we to see a 21st century repeat of something like Thalidomide with these vaccines, it would be a a medical disaster, with over a billion people affected, it would be...beyond words.
"The science" was trusted back then to.
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Even "richer" is the assumption that the sheep of America won't question the partnership between FaceBook and Politifact.Politifact's explanation, from the footnote of England's data. While what Berenson said was correct, the data did in fact show what he said it did, what it says isn't exactly what it means, errr, ummm, because of this gem:
Age adjusted mortality. Never used, until needed to spin the data. Rich!
Two honest, fact only organizations that only have the best interest of the American people in mind with absolutely no bias whatsoever.
( Please note my sarcasm as I am laying it on thick ).
More Russian Chinese disinformation.
@madinsomniac have a look.
Pfizer dumped their data. Not sure how this was obtained but woah. Appears to be a bombshell and no wonder the FDA fought to keep it hidden.
The quick takeaway:
- By February of 2021, Pfizer had already received more than 1,200 reports of death allegedly caused by the vaccine. 3 months into injecting people.
- Tens of thousands of reported adverse events
- 23 cases of spontaneous abortions out of 270 pregnancies
- More than 2,000 reports of cardiac disorders.
Bear in mind; this is Pfizer's own data. Here's the link:
https://phmpt.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/5.3.6-postmarketing-experience.pdf
@madinsomniac have a look.
Pfizer dumped their data. Not sure how this was obtained but woah. Appears to be a bombshell and no wonder the FDA fought to keep it hidden.
The quick takeaway:
- By February of 2021, Pfizer had already received more than 1,200 reports of death allegedly caused by the vaccine. 3 months into injecting people.
- Tens of thousands of reported adverse events
- 23 cases of spontaneous abortions out of 270 pregnancies
- More than 2,000 reports of cardiac disorders.
Bear in mind; this is Pfizer's own data. Here's the link:
https://phmpt.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/5.3.6-postmarketing-experience.pdf
Uh oh! Clutch your pearls, Flog!
https://citizenfreepress.com/breaki...-association-issues-warning-on-mrna-vaccines/
NEWS JUNKIES -- CHECK OUT OUR HOMEPAGE
New study and warning from the American Heart Association: mRNA vaccines dramatically increase risk of developing heart disease — “The PLUS Cardiac Test score has been measured every 3-6 months in our patient population for 8 years. Recently, with the advent of the mRNA COVID 19 vaccines by Moderna and Pfizer, dramatic changes in the PULS score became apparent in most patients.”
https://citizenfreepress.com/breaki...-association-issues-warning-on-mrna-vaccines/
FAUCI ALERT — American Heart Association issues warning on mRNA vaccines…
Posted by Kane on December 2, 2021 1:25 pmNEWS JUNKIES -- CHECK OUT OUR HOMEPAGE
New study and warning from the American Heart Association: mRNA vaccines dramatically increase risk of developing heart disease — “The PLUS Cardiac Test score has been measured every 3-6 months in our patient population for 8 years. Recently, with the advent of the mRNA COVID 19 vaccines by Moderna and Pfizer, dramatic changes in the PULS score became apparent in most patients.”
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Man, you can find that Russian boogeyman just about anywhere, can't you? I do like that you threw in China this time around. Gotta keep it fresh.Just so we're clear where all the Covid disinformation is coming from, that is gobbled up, chewed, swallowed, and regurgitated by our esteemed, resident MAGAs.
Study Shows How Russian, Chinese Disinformation About COVID-19 Evolved During The Pandemic
A new report analyzes the countries' stepped-up global disinformation campaigns about the coronavirus during the pandemic and how they're learning from each other.
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I didn't *find* or *throw in* Russia or China. The report is from the Center for European Policy Analysis (CEPA). You can read it here.
Jabbed in the Back: Mapping Russian and Chinese Information Operations During COVID-19 | CEPA
Opportunistic leaders in China, Russia, and elsewhere have used the virus as an excuse to further erode democracy and wage information warfare.
cepa.org
You can also ***** & whine to them directly, if it chaps your hide. Here is their contact info > https://cepa.org/contact/
New FDA docs released through FOIA show Pfizer vaccine caused over 1200 deaths in just the FIRST 90 DAYS
According to an official Pfizer document that is titled Cumulative Analysis of Post-Authorization Adverse Event Records Reports, in just the first 90 days of the vaccine’s roll out under the FDA’s EUA – from December 1st. 2020 – February 28th, 2021 – there were TENS OF THOUSANDS of reported adverse reactions, including OVER 1200 DEATHS.
According to an official Pfizer document that is titled Cumulative Analysis of Post-Authorization Adverse Event Records Reports, in just the first 90 days of the vaccine’s roll out under the FDA’s EUA – from December 1st. 2020 – February 28th, 2021 – there were TENS OF THOUSANDS of reported adverse reactions, including OVER 1200 DEATHS.
Good thing I gots the JnJ shot. My tail is starting to give me problems though.Uh oh! Clutch your pearls, Flog!
https://citizenfreepress.com/breaki...-association-issues-warning-on-mrna-vaccines/
FAUCI ALERT — American Heart Association issues warning on mRNA vaccines…
Posted by Kane on December 2, 2021 1:25 pm
NEWS JUNKIES -- CHECK OUT OUR HOMEPAGE
New study and warning from the American Heart Association: mRNA vaccines dramatically increase risk of developing heart disease — “The PLUS Cardiac Test score has been measured every 3-6 months in our patient population for 8 years. Recently, with the advent of the mRNA COVID 19 vaccines by Moderna and Pfizer, dramatic changes in the PULS score became apparent in most patients.”