A possible solution in Syria

[jitter77]

The problem is people are poor, ignorant, opressed, uneducated, and weak minded. I don't know if it is a religious thing or not? Christianity has evolved over the years. It used to be brutual / violent, but for the most part you don't see christians forcing people to convert, beheadding people, or suicide bombing soft targets. How do you fix whole cultures? People are born and taught to hate and they don't know any better. The ones that baffle me are the ones who join groups like ISIS at a later age. I don't know how you can see the stuff they are doing and think it was a good idea. I dont care what religion you are, i think common sense would take over at some point.

 

[hamster]

The problem is people are poor, ignorant, opressed, uneducated, and weak minded. I don't know if it is a religious thing or not? Christianity has evolved over the years. It used to be brutual / violent, but for the most part you don't see christians forcing people to convert, beheadding people, or suicide bombing soft targets. How do you fix whole cultures? People are born and taught to hate and they don't know any better. The ones that baffle me are the ones who join groups like ISIS at a later age. I don't know how you can see the stuff they are doing and think it was a good idea. I dont care what religion you are, i think common sense would take over at some point.

And these are the people flooding into Europe, and who our President wants to re-settle in a neighborhood near you. Sounds like a bad idea to me.

 

[Vincent]

The problem is people are poor, ignorant, oppressed, uneducated, and weak minded. I don't know if it is a religious thing or not?

Its both 'religious' and cultural.

First, the 'religious' part. islam is NOT a religion, its a militaristic political construct designed to subjugate those it conquers. Its entire history instructs us so. What we are seeing today is the identical behavior of the "prophet' and his followers. Its all on tape. It isn't arguable. The most charitable description of the drooling demoniac they call their 'prophet' is marauder, and at that, he was the most prolific in history. Among the problems with islam is that its adherents view it as a 'religion' rather than the mafia that it as. Ergo the fervor.

Second, islam descends from those who descend from Ishmael, one of Abraham's sons. Scripture says "He will be a wild donkey of a man; his hand will be against everyone and everyone's hand against him, and he will live in hostility toward all his brothers." That describes the descendants and their, er, 'culture' to a 'T'.

Ishmael was walking, breathing violence. It would follow that his descendants would be violent.

Enter the 'prophet'. Rather than drone on with documented accounts of mo's child beating, wife beating, murderous, plunderous, rapist, polygamist, pedophiliac, necrophiliac, bestial history, suffice to say that mo came from polytheists that had a 'god' for every day of the year - his village's fave being 'allah', the moon god - ergo the crescent on everything. Evidently, mo spent a whole month one night is a cave, he believed, with the angel Gabriel, and emerged with a vision he believed he was to impart to the world. He bounced it off the local Jews. They panned it. Tried it on local Christians. They passed. Ergo the hate and hostility toward these. mo, being the descendant of walking, breathing violence took his wrath out on the locals who had dissed him, and then turned hissef loose on the rest of the world. 'Followers' then were as easy to recruit as they are today - 'kill, rape, maim, and loot with impunity, and death will greet you with 72 virgins'. The message appeals to young 'men' of low self esteem.

A couple of points that elude the 'media' need to be made. First, the world of islam is desperately inbred. If you're interested, this explains in detail. Second, the incidence of violence in the muslim world escalates with muslim population growth. Again, the numbers, if you're interested. These people cannot escape who they are. Even if they could, they are bound by islam which they can only escape by death. It isn't reasonable to expect such creatures to be transplanted into Western 'democracies' and assimilate. Oh, and they breed like crazed rabbits.

mo referred to his outward 'migrations' as 'Hijrah'. Hijrah is what happened to the Arabian peninsula, the Mideast, Africa, much of Asia, and large chunks of Europe until those evil, barbaric Crusaders pushed back. Otherwise we'd all be inbred savages like mo's descendants. But wait, 'Hijrah' is alive and well and overrunning Europe as we speak.

Here's the forecast...



One might reasonably ask 'why we are being subjected to this suicidal insanity'. A clue might be found in our 'president's' insistence on being called "Barack Hussein Obama".

 

[Spike]

The world wouldn't dare talk to President Trump like this...


Obama tells Turkey to close their Borders, Turkey says worry about Mexico

Obama wants Turkey to close its 60-mile-long border with Syria to end the influx of new Islamic State fighters pouring into Syria and Iraq.

If Turkey acquiesces to Obama’s demands, no entry points will remain between the two countries. The entire border is 550 miles long, The Wall Street Journal reports.

But a Turkish official quickly pointed out to The Wall Street Journal the irony in Washington’s call to close off the border, given the U.S. is completely unable to stop flows in and out of Mexico.

In response, a U.S. official said, “If we were at war with Mexico, we’d close that border.”

http://dailycaller.com/2015/11/30/o...y-to-obama-handle-mexico-first/#ixzz3t1Fs4Q4h

 

[DBS1970]

The basic mistake that the entire west has made, from Brittish colonization onwards, was that the people in the mideast wanted or were ready for some semblance of democracy.

Afghanistan is very unlikely to adopt any form of government close to "democracy" until well after her people are educated enough to understand what rights and choices really might mean.

The US was a grand experiment in establishing a republic with democratic values; this happened because the new folks settling the land bought into and strengthened the institutions that gave them rights. (good thing there was no real opposition, eh)

Look how many wars have been ravaged thru Europe for hundreds of years to get their people to the point where they regard their governments as democratic in nature.

The massive arrogance of the west in simply assuming "we know best" for foreign governments/peoples has cost billlions and billions of dollars and hundreds of thousands/millions of lives.

Those 'civilized' westerners mostly give a ****, and are moved to action after some spectacular event like 9/11 or recently in Paris. Horrific, dramatically shown on TV by the media.

But no one gives a **** for far worse atrocities brought onto the Nigerian people by Boko Haram; even recently. Have more people died recently in Paris or NorthEastern Nigeria because of Islamic extremists? People around the world clearly understand the message that westerners matter more. What a shameful hypocrisy.

The west also has a cultural basis in self rule dating back the Greek city states that the ME doesn't have. They have never been free men without the need to be ruled by a potentate of some sort. Even under the rule of kings western peoples recognized rights of individuals.

 

[IndySteel]

More proof that Obama helps ISIS.

Is The United States Funding ISIS? Iraqis Seem To Think So
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Ever since Islamic State gained worldwide popularity, there has been rumors that the U.S. inadvertently or purposely created and/or funded ISIS. In fact, when I typed “United States created” into Google Search the first entry that autocomplete populated was “United States created ISIS.” Now there are actually legitimate news outlets that are reporting on this conspiracy theory could be possible.

I didn’t delve into the deep web to discover this information or scour conspiracy theory forums chock full of secrets about the Illuminati to unearth these cloak-and-dagger allegations. This was in the Washington Post. The reputable newspaper that was founded in 1877, and has won 47 Pulitzer Prizes has entertained the hard-to-believe notions.

In February, Iraq’s Parliamentary Commission on Security and Defense revealed that coalition forces were supplying weapons to Islamic State. During the press conference there were several documents and photographs confirming that international coalition aircraft delivered aid, weapons and supplies to ISIS using parachutes.

“Our armed forces, volunteer fighters, Peshmerga and tribesmen have achieved victories against the ISIS organization in all operations,” Committee Chairman MP Hakim Zamili declared at the House of Representatives. “Meanwhile, we keep finding documents, pictures, and information confirming that the coalition aircrafts violate the Iraqi sovereignty and the international norms in order to prolong the war with ISIS by providing it with aid by air or on land.”

Iraqi military officials say that the United States is supposed to be an ally, but they complain that the U.S. hasn’t done enough to help eradicate Daesh from their country. The perceived lackluster effort on behalf of the Americans has caused Iraqis to conclude that the U.S. is supporting ISIS.

“We don’t believe the Americans support Daesh,” said Naseer Nouri, spokesman for the Ministry of Defense. “But it is true that most people are saying they do, and they are right to believe that the Americans should be doing much more than they are. It’s because America is so slow that most people believe they are supporting Daesh.”

Iraqi military claim that American warplanes routinely decline requests for air support. The U.S. states that their rules of engagement prohibit airstrikes if it risks the lives of civilians. The United States has stated that they do help the Iraqis and has conducted more than 3,768 strikes in Iraq as of Nov.* 19, and the tempo of strikes has increased lately.

The U.S. military is assisting Iraqi fighters with near-daily strikes to recapture Baiji. However, the Iraqi fighters insist there have been no strikes by the Americans at all. “We’d be better off without them,” said 1st Lt. Murtada Fadl, who is serving with the Iraqi elite forces in Baiji. He went so far as to say that he wishes that the government would ask the Russians to replace the Americans.

But it isn’t only Iraqi officials that are stating this disturbing conspiracy theory. “The image of the U.S. was damaged in the region, so they created Daesh in order to fight them and restore their image,” said Mohammed Abdul Khaleq, a journalist for a local TV station.

“It is true that most people believe that,” Hassan Abdul-Wahab, 23, selling luggage in a nearby shop said. “But it’s not based on reason. It’s based on racism — because Iraqis don’t like Americans in the first place.”

Meanwhile others disagree and Col. Steve Warren, the military’s Baghdad-based spokesman, called the accusations “beyond ridiculous.” Warren, added, “There’s clearly no one in the West who buys it, but unfortunately, this is something that a segment of the Iraqi population believes.”

“The Iranians and the Iranian-backed Shiite militias are really pushing this line of propaganda, that the United States is supporting ISIL,” Warren said. “It’s part of the Iranian propaganda machine.”

Conspiracy theories were fueled by the vast assortment of U.S. military weaponry that ISIS was able to stockpile. The American-made military equipment including M-16s, Humvees, Howitzers and even tanks are fully functional and doesn’t appear to have a scratch on them, let alone to be involved in any warfare.

Those who don’t believe that the U.S. is arming Daesh state that this impressive arsenal in the hands of the fledgling terrorist organization is because the powder keg region is swimming in American and Russian-made weapons from years of wars. Another idea is that Daesh started conquering large swaths of Iraq and the Iraqi military dropped their mostly U.S.-made weapons and fled.

ISIS captured Iraq’s second largest city Mosul in June 2014, and the terrorist group supposedly acquired a ****-ton of weapons. Iraqi Prime Minister Haider al-Abadi revealed that approximately $656.4 million worth of U.S. military equipment, including some 2,300 Humvees.

There is also a question of how ISIS is funded, and usually the answer is from oil. There are speculations that Daesh makes $50 million a month from selling crude from the oilfields under their control in Iraq and Syria. However, Vladimir Putin says that 40 countries are buying the black market oil, including members of the 20 major economies in the world, which the United States is a part of. “I provided examples based on our data on the financing of different Islamic State (IS, formerly ISIS/ISIL) units by private individuals. This money, as we have established, comes from 40 countries and, there are some of the G20 members among them.”

Yousaf al Salafi, a man believed to be a Pakistani commander of Daesh, confessed to law enforcement agencies in Pakistan that ISIS received funds from America. “During investigations, Yousaf al Salafi revealed that he was getting funding – routed through America – to run the organization in Pakistan and recruit young people to fight in Syria,” a leading Pakistani newspaper reported.

The reasons that would justify the United States funding ISIS is to help oust Bashar al-Assad, the President of Syira. Assad is friendly with Vladimir Putin, making Syria an ally of Russia. That is reason why Russia is bombing ISIS and any other rebel group opposing Bashar.

A seven-page, heavily redacted intelligence report from August 2012 from the Pentagon’s Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA) was declassified and obtained by Judicial Watch. The once secret document states that Western governments deliberately allied with al-Qaeda and other Islamist extremist groups to take down Syrian dictator Bashar al-Assad.

There have been conspiracy theories of the United States funding questionable militias and rebels in the Middle East since 1979. During the height of the Cold War, the U.S. armed Mujahideen groups against their archenemy, Soviet Union, when the Soviet war in Afghanistan erupted. The Central Intelligence Agency named the mission Operation Cyclone, and was one of the longest and most expensive covert CIA operations. Funding initially began with $20–$30 million per year in 1980 and rose to $630 million per year in 1987.

Some believe that the CIA provided arms and military training to the Afghan Arab Mujahideen, which Osama bin Laden was a member of and would later become the infamous founder of al-Qaeda, the terrorist group that executed the September 11 attacks on the United States.

During the Libyan Civil War, there were speculations that the United States funded militant rebels with ties to al-Qaeda in an effort to topple Moammar Gadhafi. Secret intelligence reports included a 16-page list of weapons that Libyans supposedly tracked to the rebels from Western sources or their allies in the region.

 

[Spike]

The Anti-Christ is exposed



Democratic congresswoman warns Obama could drag the US into a'devastating nuclear war'

A Hawaii Representative has warned the US government that President Barack Obama’s decision to put American fighter jets that can ‘target Russian planes’ on the border between Turkey and Syria could start a ‘devastating nuclear war’.

Democratic Rep Tulsi Gabbard’s comments came after Defense Secretary Ashton Carter told Congress on Tuesday that the United States is sending additional special operations ground forces to Iraq in its ongoing fight against the Islamic State terrorists.

Gabbard said the fighter jets, along with Obama’s opposition to Russian-backed Syrian dictator Bashar al-Assad, could lead to a nuclear war.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...key-border-start-devastating-nuclear-war.html

 

[Rod Farva]

Its both 'religious' and cultural.

First, the 'religious' part. islam is NOT a religion, its a militaristic political construct designed to subjugate those it conquers. Its entire history instructs us so. What we are seeing today is the identical behavior of the "prophet' and his followers. Its all on tape. It isn't arguable. The most charitable description of the drooling demoniac they call their 'prophet' is marauder, and at that, he was the most prolific in history. Among the problems with islam is that its adherents view it as a 'religion' rather than the mafia that it as. Ergo the fervor.

Second, islam descends from those who descend from Ishmael, one of Abraham's sons. Scripture says "He will be a wild donkey of a man; his hand will be against everyone and everyone's hand against him, and he will live in hostility toward all his brothers." That describes the descendants and their, er, 'culture' to a 'T'.

Ishmael was walking, breathing violence. It would follow that his descendants would be violent.

Enter the 'prophet'. Rather than drone on with documented accounts of mo's child beating, wife beating, murderous, plunderous, rapist, polygamist, pedophiliac, necrophiliac, bestial history, suffice to say that mo came from polytheists that had a 'god' for every day of the year - his village's fave being 'allah', the moon god - ergo the crescent on everything. Evidently, mo spent a whole month one night is a cave, he believed, with the angel Gabriel, and emerged with a vision he believed he was to impart to the world. He bounced it off the local Jews. They panned it. Tried it on local Christians. They passed. Ergo the hate and hostility toward these. mo, being the descendant of walking, breathing violence took his wrath out on the locals who had dissed him, and then turned hissef loose on the rest of the world. 'Followers' then were as easy to recruit as they are today - 'kill, rape, maim, and loot with impunity, and death will greet you with 72 virgins'. The message appeals to young 'men' of low self esteem.

A couple of points that elude the 'media' need to be made. First, the world of islam is desperately inbred. If you're interested, this explains in detail. Second, the incidence of violence in the muslim world escalates with muslim population growth. Again, the numbers, if you're interested. These people cannot escape who they are. Even if they could, they are bound by islam which they can only escape by death. It isn't reasonable to expect such creatures to be transplanted into Western 'democracies' and assimilate. Oh, and they breed like crazed rabbits.

mo referred to his outward 'migrations' as 'Hijrah'. Hijrah is what happened to the Arabian peninsula, the Mideast, Africa, much of Asia, and large chunks of Europe until those evil, barbaric Crusaders pushed back. Otherwise we'd all be inbred savages like mo's descendants. But wait, 'Hijrah' is alive and well and overrunning Europe as we speak.

Here's the forecast...



One might reasonably ask 'why we are being subjected to this suicidal insanity'. A clue might be found in our 'president's' insistence on being called "Barack Hussein Obama".

That is a perfectly lucid, intelligent and well thought out line of reasoning. Over ruled.

On behalf of liberals everywhere, Barack Hussein Obama