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Bell is the Engine of our offense

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A lot of us have been talking about how easy it will be to dismantle the Ravens D with our pass attack. I don't think it's that simple.

On our record setting offense this year, Bell accounted for 2215 of those yards, both running and receiving and added 11 TDs to boot. Second only to AB's 13. It isn't a simple plug and play when you lose a player like this. Not only did we lose our top running back, but we lost our #2 receiver in both receptions and yardage. That's essentially losing 2 players at the same time. Another running back can come in and run the ball, and even may even be able to catch balls out of the backfield, but not like Bell.

Bell is a legitimate receiving threat. He does run circle routes, swings, screens, and is a release valve to check down to at times, but that is what most RBs are capable of. Bell's passing tree is comprehensive for his position. He actually runs flys, posts, stop and gos, and 20yd ins (which is the route he was hurt on). Think about that for a moment, how many RBs have you ever seen run a 20yd in? When he lines up as a WR or sometimes directly from the backfield, Bell will be running his route tree, most of the time with a LB on him, and it is a mismatch for any team to defend. This is why he gained 2200+ yardage this season. He is not an easy player to replace, and there is he is the reason why our offense is so prolific, that is why he earned our team MVP honor.

Losing Bell is HUGE for this offense, but there are things that our offense can do to still be productive this week. If we line up in a running set, we will get run blitzed all day by that D. It is the quickest way to shut down our running game and limit our down and distance advantages. We have to be set to run hot routes from the first play of the game. They will try and over commit and force us into a mistake, but that also makes them vulnerable to big plays by our fleet receivers one on one. Archer can be a weapon if he lines up in the backfield on a running set, then splits wide as a WR. He has the speed to separate and could make some plays if he hangs on to the ball. I am not relying on him to run the ball or block at all. If we need a blocker, it has to be Will Johnson. At the very least, if there are no blitzes to pickup, he has the ability to be the safety valve and get us some positive plays with his hands.

Hopefully, we learned from our inability to defend the spread in the early 2000s by enacting the same strategy against the ravens. A majority of our plays should be 4-5WR sets. The Ravens secondary is depleted. Injuries and turnover has created the perfect blend of inefficiency and lack of experience. While they may have 2 serviceable corners, they do not have 4-5. If they are running the dime all game, we have them in a position where inexperienced players will be going up against a very experienced and explosive receiving corp. By carrying more players in dime sets, they have to leave some LBs off the field, which is their strength, just as it was our strength in the early 2000s.

The blueprint is there for Ben to carry this team to victory, it will take the proper game planning by the coaches to make it work. Hopefully it will work just enough to get Bell back the following week so we can restart the engine that makes our offense so diverse.
 
One other thing to keep in mind is that our full back Johnson was a wide out in college and likely can run better routes than most full backs. So he is not Bell but he is capable. I expect Hailey is rapidly working on a game plan with out Bell and one with him limited.
 
Losing Bell is going to hurt, but at least it was not Ben. We can overcome Bell's loss against the Ravens. Hopefully it is just a game though, because we need LeVeon badly. Without Ben, we would be going nowhere. Time to carry this team BEN!!!!
 
Great point Wingman. Perhaps the team's strategy all along was to go to Will Johnson as our feature back if Bell went down. That is the only way I can explain dropping Blount with no other viable back that could handle the load. Personally, I'd feel more comfortable having WJ line up a majority of the time over Archer, Harris, or whoever else we decide to pick up RB. At least he knows the offense, runs hard, and is a receiving threat out of the backfield.
 
Archer is NOT te answer. Even on passing downs he is shoved aside and he makes half hearted pass blocking attempts. Empty back field is tough, yet alone against the gayvens. WJ can be the viable starter, mix in Harris and the drop off is lessened. I can't imagine Archer ever being the feature back. Hard to see him as a #3 even. Harris or Johnson, either would be best option, as I see it. Tate, good decision if he is picked up as "EMERGENCY" back up. Having noone would be the stupid thing to do.


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Archer is NOT te answer. Even on passing downs he is shoved aside and he makes half hearted pass blocking attempts. Empty back field is tough, yet alone against the gayvens. WJ can be the viable starter, mix in Harris and the drop off is lessened. I can't imagine Archer ever being the feature back. Hard to see him as a #3 even. Harris or Johnson, either would be best option, as I see it. Tate, good decision if he is picked up as "EMERGENCY" back up. Having noone would be the stupid thing to do.


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I will give Archer this...he did make a couple of catches Sunday night. It will have to make the Ravens game plan now for that. :)
 
Dri Archer can be used in screens or slants....whatever we do with him it needs to gameplan around his strength...his speed...Between Josh's running between the tackles and Dri catchin it in the slot or from the backfield, we can in essence mold this two headed back into something similar to Bells productivity ...move the chains is what i preach all the time....we dont need homerun plays all the time.
 
the point is vs the ravens Bell is and has been a low level contributor. His biggest addition is pass blocking and frankly I don't see why we couldn't put Johnson back there just for that. Its ok to win without a run game as we saw last time vs the Ravens. Id rather a healtier Bell vs Denver, when we would absolutely need him, than seeing him blow his knee out vs the cheapshot masters who will have a bounty on it for sure and be wasted through next year.
 
the point is vs the ravens Bell is and has been a low level contributor. His biggest addition is pass blocking and frankly I don't see why we couldn't put Johnson back there just for that. Its ok to win without a run game as we saw last time vs the Ravens. Id rather a healtier Bell vs Denver, when we would absolutely need him, than seeing him blow his knee out vs the cheapshot masters who will have a bounty on it for sure and be wasted through next year.

I think what everyone is saying is even though Bell has a low output numbers vs the Ravens he commands the Ravens to game plan around him. he opens things up for others just being on the field.
 
Trying to pound Josh into that Ravens DL with Nganta in there is stupid. Even stupidier is if we waste a half trying to prove our "toughness" by pounding the ball up the gut like nothing has changed.

Run Josh...as a decoy.

Go getum Ben, Shotgun, 5 WIDE, quick slant and bubble screen them rats to death with our WR weapons. Heath should be targeted 20 times too.

That's what I say.
 
Dri Archer can be used in screens or slants....whatever we do with him it needs to gameplan around his strength...his speed...Between Josh's running between the tackles and Dri catchin it in the slot or from the backfield, we can in essence mold this two headed back into something similar to Bells productivity ...move the chains is what i preach all the time....we dont need homerun plays all the time.

this would be all well and nice if it could be put into practice and executed, but it hasn't yet, at least not to anything close to resembling a formidable "move-the-chains" option in Archer; do you really expect that we'll be able to get him "in space" against Baltimore? Sure, we don't need home runs every play, but we DO need someone who can block AND get us tough yards when we need them. That sure as hell isn't Archer.
 
The Texans have their own tiny little dude (granted he is a WR) but they use his speed, quick slants or bring him in motion just as the ball is snapped and the QB hits him with a shovel pass as he passes by and he uses his speed to get to the corner....works once or twice a game
 
We can win this next game without Bell. We cannot win it without Ben. Ben is the engine of this offense.
 
Spike got it right, no need to play around attempting to run for a whole half. Death from above, bomb the hell out of 'em!!!! Passing attack should lead the way, Go Steelers!!!
 
In our November 2nd game against the Ravens, Bell had 10 carries for 20 yards, Blount had 10 carries for 23 yards. Are we really going to miss that so much? I bet Harris can come close to those numbers - the real questions are: Can Ben come close to duplicating his performance in that game, and can the defense play as well as they did?

We'll miss Bell tremendously, but it doesn't kill our chances, at least not against the Ravens.
 
I don't think 'stupidier' is a word.
 
Well I will say I don't care who we have it is going to be hard to replace the guy who has the 2nd most yards from scrimmage. With that said I am hoping we only have to say this one game and we roll without him this week and get him back next week vs Denver and here is why I think we should be ok without him:

Someone in this organization has seen something they like in Archer and now it is going to be time to show it. I know there has been tons of talk about this guy and we all are left wondering WTF they were thinking but I hope it gets shown Saturday night. He will never be Bell but maybe for one game he could be our Sproles.......and if so I think that will be enough to get by!

I am not taking anything away from Bell when I say this but how much of his success can we give to our improved oline? I think Ben and Bell have had great seasons and a lot of the credit could be given to their improved play. With that said we did see them open some holes when Bell went down and maybe Harris could rip off a few runs to set up the pass game.

Another point is this AB has been our play maker for the last few years without a supporting cast so maybe he steps up yet again. Feed him the ball early and often let him make plays and let him be the "engine" Saturday night.

When Bell was named MVP we had a thread about who could have gotten it. Well some of them names...Ben, AB, Miller, Timmons, Gay and the oline all need to step up and fill the gap that Bell may have left us for a game.

Big Ben has to be on no bull **** no excuses we have a very good offense and it starts with #7. If he is on we will be in good shape AB, Bryant and Miller can all have big games.

Speaking of Miller there is the guy who will be picking up the slack on pass blocking and as he proved year after year ,game after game he sure can do it.
 
Well I will say I don't care who we have it is going to be hard to replace the guy who has the 2nd most yards from scrimmage. With that said I am hoping we only have to say this one game and we roll without him this week and get him back next week vs Denver and here is why I think we should be ok without him:

Someone in this organization has seen something they like in Archer and now it is going to be time to show it. I know there has been tons of talk about this guy and we all are left wondering WTF they were thinking but I hope it gets shown Saturday night. He will never be Bell but maybe for one game he could be our Sproles.......and if so I think that will be enough to get by!

I am not taking anything away from Bell when I say this but how much of his success can we give to our improved oline? I think Ben and Bell have had great seasons and a lot of the credit could be given to their improved play. With that said we did see them open some holes when Bell went down and maybe Harris could rip off a few runs to set up the pass game.

Another point is this AB has been our play maker for the last few years without a supporting cast so maybe he steps up yet again. Feed him the ball early and often let him make plays and let him be the "engine" Saturday night.

When Bell was named MVP we had a thread about who could have gotten it. Well some of them names...Ben, AB, Miller, Timmons, Gay and the oline all need to step up and fill the gap that Bell may have left us for a game.

Big Ben has to be on no bull **** no excuses we have a very good offense and it starts with #7. If he is on we will be in good shape AB, Bryant and Miller can all have big games.

Speaking of Miller there is the guy who will be picking up the slack on pass blocking and as he proved year after year ,game after game he sure can do it.

All good points. We also have Harris at the running back spot and he might be more of an every down option than Archer, and your same points are valid regarding him. The team also signed Tate and he seems to run in a similar fashion to Bell. I don't think he is near the pass catcher nor is he as explosive but he runs with decent power and might be handy at the goal line or in short yardage situations. As it looks now we should be ok in the rb department by signing a solid back up and having a couple of guys that can be role players.
 
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