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http://www.sacbee.com/news/politics...olumns-blogs/dan-walters/article79420247.html

Jerry Brown’s ‘nonviolent’ parole measure would apply to violent crimes

By Dan Walters

dwalters@sacbee.com
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May 23, 2016 04:16 PM

UPDATED May 24, 2016 07:35 AM

Gov. Jerry Brown’s ballot measure to overhaul criminal sentencing says those convicted of a “nonviolent felony offense” would be potentially eligible for parole.

However, it doesn’t define the term, and that makes figuring out which felons could qualify for parole difficult – perhaps by design, to minimize adverse voter reaction.

The California District Attorneys Association, which opposes the measure, assumes that parole would be possible for any felony except the 23 crimes listed in Penal Code Section 667.5(c), such as murder, that are deemed particularly violent.

Thus, it would make dozens of crimes that most of us consider to be violent parole-eligible, including assault with a deadly weapon, soliciting murder, intimidating or harming a crime victim or witness, resisting arrest that injures a police officer, violent elder or child abuse, arson with injury, human trafficking and several forms of manslaughter.

Dan Newman, a spokesman for Brown’s campaign, confirmed that the association’s interpretation is correct but added that anticipated rules would also make registered sex offenders ineligible for parole.

Brown says he wants to undo a “determinate sentence” law he signed nearly four decades ago, during his first stint as governor, and thus give felons a chance to earn parole by good behavior. It would build on federal court rulings that reinstate parole for some inmates.

Brown has said he considered making those who commit even the most violent crimes parole-eligible, but backed off due to strong law enforcement opposition. The opposition is still there, however, particularly since his proposal builds on two other recent measures that soften penalties for crimes.

Thousands of prisoners have walked under those laws, and law enforcement groups say they have already seen a bothersome uptick in crime. Prosecutors contend that Brown’s parole measure would lead to dangerous criminals being put on the streets.

It’s somewhat disingenuous for Brown to claim that the measure would apply to “nonviolent felony offenses” when unwinding the verbiage reveals that it applies to many despicably violent crimes.

The obtuse wording is also the latest example of the extraordinary steps Brown has taken to place it on the ballot.

He offered it early this year not as a stand-alone proposal, but as an amendment to an existing proposal dealing with juvenile crime. The DAs sued, contending that Brown was circumventing procedures meant to give notice to the public about ballot measures, and won a Superior Court ruling, which Brown is now appealing to the state Supreme Court.

Meanwhile, when it seemed as if he couldn’t get enough signatures in time to qualify the parole measure for the November ballot, Brown signed a hastily drafted bill to give local election officials a wad of state money if they processed measures whose signatures were submitted by May 20.

It bought Brown an extra three weeks, and he submitted a million signatures last Friday.

“Whatever it takes to get this done will be taken,” Brown said when he unveiled the measure.

So it would seem.

Dan Walters: 916-321-1195, dwalters@sacbee.com, @WaltersBee

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What is Penal Code Section 667.5(c) and why aren’t the violent crimes listed included in it? And why is the DA assuming that is the extent of the crimes included?
 
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Ridiculous but then again what did yinz expect from them Libs.

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If only we had a CA lawyer whose analysis we could ridicule.
 
What is Penal Code Section 667.5(c) and why aren’t the violent crimes listed included in it? And why is the DA assuming that is the extent of the crimes included?

highlight "Penal Code Section 667.5(c)
right click
scroll to Google ...
 
What a bunch of smoke and mirrors. Truly despicable.
 
You might surprised what is listed multiple times...

https://achieve.lausd.net/cms/lib/C...and Insurance/CALIFORNIA PENAL CODE 667 5.pdf

California Penal Code 667.5 (c)
667
.
5
.
(c) For the purpose of this section, "violent felony" shall mean
any of the following:
(1) Murder or voluntary manslaughter.
(2) Mayhem.
(3) Rape as defined in paragraph (2) or (6) of subdivision (a) of
Section 261 or paragraph (1) or (4) of subdivision (a) of Section
262.
(4) Sodomy as defined in subdivision (c) or (d) of Section 286.
(
5
) Oral copulation as defined in subdivision (c) or (d) of
Section 288a.
(6) Lewd or lascivious act as defined in subdivision (a) or (b) of
Section 288.
(7) Any felony punishable by death or imprisonment in the state
prison for life.
(8) Any felony in which the defendant inflicts great bodily injury
on any person other than an accomplice which has been charged and
proved as provided for in Section 12022.7, 12022.8, or 12022.9 on or
after July 1, 1977, or as specified prior to July 1, 1977, in
Sections 213, 264, and 461, or any felony in which the defendant uses
a firearm which use has been charged and proved as provided in
subdivision (a) of Section 12022.3, or Section 12022.
5
or 12022.55.
(9) Any robbery.
(10) Arson, in violation of subdivision (a) or (b) of Section 451.
(11) Sexual penetration as defined in subdivision (a) or (j) of
Section 289.
(12) Attempted murder.
(13) A violation of Section 12308, 12309, or 12310.
(14) Kidnapping.
(15) Assault with the intent to commit a specified felony, in
violation of Section 220.
(16) Continuous sexual abuse of a child, in violation of Section
288.
5
.
(17) Carjacking, as defined in subdivision (a) of Section 215.
(18) Rape, spousal rape, or sexual penetration, in concert, in
violation of Section 264.1.
(19) Extortion, as defined in Section 518, which would constitute
a felony violation of Section 186.22 of the
Penal
Code
.
(20) Threats to victims or witnesses, as defined in Section 136.1,
which would constitute a felony violation of Section 186.22 of the
Penal
Code
.
(21) Any burglary of the first degree, as defined in subdivision
(a) of Section 460, wherein it is charged and proved that another
person, other than an accomplice, was present in the residence during
the commission of the burglary.
(22) Any violation of Section 12022.53.
(23) A violation of subdivision (b) or (c) of Section 11418. The
Legislature finds and declares that these specified crimes merit
special consideration when imposing a sentence to display society's
condemnation for these extraordinary crimes of violence against the
person.
 
You might surprised what is listed multiple times...

http://www.cdcr.ca.gov/parole/non_revocable_parole/violent_offenses_defined.html

Violent Offenses Defined

California Law http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/calaw.html

Definition of Violent Felony Offenses As specified in Penal Code (PC) Section 667.5(c) 667.5. Enhancement of prison terms for new offenses because of prior prison terms shall be imposed as follows:

(a) Where one of the new offenses is one of the violent felonies specified in subdivision (c), in addition to and consecutive to any other prison terms therefor, the court shall impose a three-year term for each prior separate prison term served by the defendant where the prior offense was one of the violent felonies specified in subdivision (c). However, no additional term shall be imposed under this subdivision for any prison term served prior to a period of 10 years in which the defendant remained free of both prison custody and the commission of an offense which results in a felony conviction.

(b) Except where subdivision (a) applies, where the new offense is any felony for which a prison sentence is imposed, in addition and consecutive to any other prison terms therefor, the court shall impose a one-year term for each prior separate prison term served for any felony; provided that no additional term shall be imposed under this subdivision for any prison term served prior to a period of five years in which the defendant remained free of both prison custody and the commission of an offense which results in a felony conviction.

(c) For the purpose of this section, "violent felony" shall mean any of the following:

(1) Murder or voluntary manslaughter.

(2) Mayhem.

(3) Rape as defined in paragraph (2) or (6) of subdivision (a) of Section 261 or paragraph (1) or (4) of subdivision (a) of Section 262.

(4) Sodomy as defined in subdivision (c) or (d) of Section 286.

(5) Oral copulation as defined in subdivision (c) or (d) of Section 288a.

(6) Lewd or lascivious act as defined in subdivision (a) or (b) of Section 288.

(7) Any felony punishable by death or imprisonment in the state prison for life.

(8) Any felony in which the defendant inflicts great bodily injury on any person other than an accomplice which has been charged and proved as provided for in Section 12022.7, 12022.8, or 12022.9 on or after July 1, 1977, or as specified prior to July 1, 1977, in Sections 213, 264, and 461, or any felony in which the defendant uses a firearm which use has been charged and proved as provided in subdivision (a) of Section 12022.3, or Section 12022.5 or 12022.55.

(9) Any robbery.

(10) Arson, in violation of subdivision (a) or (b) of Section 451.

(11) Sexual penetration as defined in subdivision (a) or (j) of Section 289.

(12) Attempted murder.

(13) A violation of Section 12308, 12309, or 12310.

(14) Kidnapping.

(15) Assault with the intent to commit a specified felony, in violation of Section 220.

(16) Continuous sexual abuse of a child, in violation of Section 288.5.

(17) Carjacking, as defined in subdivision (a) of Section 215.

(18) Rape, spousal rape, or sexual penetration, in concert, in violation of Section 264.1.

(19) Extortion, as defined in Section 518, which would constitute a felony violation of Section 186.22 of the Penal Code.

(20) Threats to victims or witnesses, as defined in Section 136.1, which would constitute a felony violation of Section 186.22 of the Penal Code.

(21) Any burglary of the first degree, as defined in subdivision (a) of Section 460, wherein it is charged and proved that another person, other than an accomplice, was present in the residence during the commission of the burglary.

(22) Any violation of Section 12022.53.

(23) A violation of subdivision (b) or (c) of Section 11418. The Legislature finds and declares that these specified crimes merit special consideration when imposing a sentence to display society's condemnation for these extraordinary crimes of violence against the person.

(d) For the purposes of this section, the defendant shall be deemed to remain in prison custody for an offense until the official discharge from custody or until release on parole, whichever first occurs, including any time during which the defendant remains subject to reimprisonment for escape from custody or is reimprisoned on revocation of parole. The additional penalties provided for prior prison terms shall not be imposed unless they are charged and admitted or found true in the action for the new offense.

(e) The additional penalties provided for prior prison terms shall not be imposed for any felony for which the defendant did not serve a prior separate term in state prison.

(f) A prior conviction of a felony shall include a conviction in another jurisdiction for an offense which, if committed in California, is punishable by imprisonment in the state prison if the defendant served one year or more in prison for the offense in the other jurisdiction. A prior conviction of a particular felony shall include a conviction in another jurisdiction for an offense which includes all of the elements of the particular felony as defined under California law if the defendant served one year or more in prison for the offense in the other jurisdiction.

(g) A prior separate prison term for the purposes of this section shall mean a continuous completed period of prison incarceration imposed for the particular offense alone or in combination with concurrent or consecutive sentences for other crimes, including any reimprisonment on revocation of parole which is not accompanied by a new commitment to prison, and including any reimprisonment after an escape from incarceration.

(h) Serving a prison term includes any confinement time in any state prison or federal penal institution as punishment for commission of an offense, including confinement in a hospital or other institution or facility credited as service of prison time in the jurisdiction of the confinement.

(i) For the purposes of this section, a commitment to the State Department of Mental Health as a mentally disordered sex offender following a conviction of a felony, which commitment exceeds one year in duration, shall be deemed a prior prison term.

(j) For the purposes of this section, when a person subject to the custody, control, and discipline of the Director of Corrections is incarcerated at a facility operated by the Department of the Youth Authority, that incarceration shall be deemed to be a term served in state prison.

(k) Notwithstanding subdivisions (d) and (g) or any other provision of law, where one of the new offenses is committed while the defendant is temporarily removed from prison pursuant to Section 2690 or while the defendant is transferred to a community facility pursuant to Section 3416, 6253, or 6263, or while the defendant is on furlough pursuant to Section 6254, the defendant shall be subject to the full enhancements provided for in this section. This subdivision shall not apply when a full, separate, and consecutive term is imposed pursuant to any other provision of law.
 
You might surprised what is listed multiple times...

oh, so you believe that a law should only be listed once? just one law should apply to one crime?
interesting. tell me more.
 
https://achieve.lausd.net/cms/lib/C...and Insurance/CALIFORNIA PENAL CODE 667 5.pdf

California Penal Code 667.5 (c)
667
.
5
.
(c) For the purpose of this section, "violent felony" shall mean
any of the following:
(1) Murder or voluntary manslaughter.
(2) Mayhem.
(3) Rape as defined in paragraph (2) or (6) of subdivision (a) of
Section 261 or paragraph (1) or (4) of subdivision (a) of Section
262.
(4) Sodomy as defined in subdivision (c) or (d) of Section 286.
(
5
) Oral copulation as defined in subdivision (c) or (d) of
Section 288a.
(6) Lewd or lascivious act as defined in subdivision (a) or (b) of
Section 288.
(7) Any felony punishable by death or imprisonment in the state
prison for life.
(8) Any felony in which the defendant inflicts great bodily injury
on any person other than an accomplice which has been charged and
proved as provided for in Section 12022.7, 12022.8, or 12022.9 on or
after July 1, 1977, or as specified prior to July 1, 1977, in
Sections 213, 264, and 461, or any felony in which the defendant uses
a firearm which use has been charged and proved as provided in
subdivision (a) of Section 12022.3, or Section 12022.
5
or 12022.55.
(9) Any robbery.
(10) Arson, in violation of subdivision (a) or (b) of Section 451.
(11) Sexual penetration as defined in subdivision (a) or (j) of
Section 289.
(12) Attempted murder.
(13) A violation of Section 12308, 12309, or 12310.
(14) Kidnapping.
(15) Assault with the intent to commit a specified felony, in
violation of Section 220.
(16) Continuous sexual abuse of a child, in violation of Section
288.
5
.
(17) Carjacking, as defined in subdivision (a) of Section 215.
(18) Rape, spousal rape, or sexual penetration, in concert, in
violation of Section 264.1.
(19) Extortion, as defined in Section 518, which would constitute
a felony violation of Section 186.22 of the
Penal
Code
.
(20) Threats to victims or witnesses, as defined in Section 136.1,
which would constitute a felony violation of Section 186.22 of the
Penal
Code
.
(21) Any burglary of the first degree, as defined in subdivision
(a) of Section 460, wherein it is charged and proved that another
person, other than an accomplice, was present in the residence during
the commission of the burglary.
(22) Any violation of Section 12022.53.
(23) A violation of subdivision (b) or (c) of Section 11418. The
Legislature finds and declares that these specified crimes merit
special consideration when imposing a sentence to display society's
condemnation for these extraordinary crimes of violence against the
person.

(24) Sporting a manbun.
 
When are they voting to secede from the union?
 
Brown has been releasing criminals, including violent criminals, due to the Supreme Court ordering that California's prison overcrowding be addressed.

The stupid ************ could have simply built a new jail years ago but is a ******* dickwad shitstick. I hope one of these violent crazies murders his entire family.

Hey, guess what? ******* violent crime is increasing in California. What, release violent criminals and violent crime goes up??

For the second year in a row, California saw an increase in violent crimes, according to new state figures which also include the first detailed look at peace officers’ use of force.

http://www.sacbee.com/news/politics-government/capitol-alert/article167879952.html#storylink=cpy

**** Jerry Brown with a rusty iron bar.
 
oh, so you believe that a law should only be listed once? just one law should apply to one crime?
interesting. tell me more.

I believe your subject title is demonstrably fake news based on an assumption.
 
I believe your subject title is demonstrably fake news based on an assumption.

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https://kfiam640.iheart.com/feature...11-14-initiatives-to-fix-prop-47-and-prop-57/



The California Public Safety Partnership (CAPSP) is fed up with the social-engineering experiments known as Props 47 & 57, and Assembly Bill 109.

The organization has submitted a statewide ballot initiative called the "Reducing Crime and Keeping California Safe Act of 2018" to the Attorney General for a title and summary.

Michele Hanisee, President of the Association of Deputy District Attorneys and proponent of the new initiative says there will need to be 366,000 valid signatures to qualify the initiative for the ballot.

She wants that number to hit 600,000 by the end of April 2018. CASP aims to qualify the initiative for the 2018 November general election.

In their current forms, the propositions allow for "non-violent" convicts to get out of jail with just a slap on the wrist.

The initiative also plugs a gaping hole in the state parole system that was created by AB 109, a 2011 law that eliminated a return to prison for parole violators.



Please share information about the initiative with your family, friends, neighbors and on social media. Click here to like the California Public Safety Partnership Facebook Page. If you are a Twitter user, please use the CAPSP hashtag @CAsafety to help create viral support for our effort.
Prop 47

This was a 2014 proposition which reduced several felonies to misdemeanors. All thefts under $950 are now filed as misdemeanors, no matter how many times an individual is convicted.

As part of Prop 47, DNA collection for misdemeanors are also eliminated.

Several studies have shown that DNA collected from offenses like theft and drug crimes can help solve more serious crimes such as rape and murder.

The CAPSP initiative would restore DNA collection for these cases.
Prop 57

Passed in 2016, Prop 57 was touted as allowing early release for non-violent offenders. The proposition neglected a slew violent crimes, which the new initiative aims to rectify. This includes adding the following violent criminal offenses:

Child trafficking for sex
Rape of an unconscious person
Domestic violence
Assault of a peace officer
Drive-by shooting
Detonating a bomb with intent to injure

AB 109

Assembly Bill 109 establishes the California Public Safety Realignment Act of 2011 which allows for current non-violent, non-serious, and non-sex offenders, who after they are released from California State prison, are to be supervised at the local County level. Instead of reporting to state parole officers, these offenders are to report to local county probation officers.

Follow Michele Hanisee on Twitter @michele_hanisee.

Like the California Public Safety Partnership on Facebook @CAsafety.

Read the Reducing Crime and Keeping California Safe Act of 2018 at oag.ca.gov
 
copied from elsewhere via a voter in Commieforniastan:

rop 47 & 57 but it was all there in the voter guide but the ballot had a single line something along the line like let’s nonviolent offenders out earlier if they go into a program or some crap like that for prop 57* prop 47 the first one that let tons of criminals out said one line like let’s marijuana users out something like oh the poor pot smokers doin time- but when you read the voter guide booklet it was waaaaay more bad offenses that were going to be let out. Problem voters have here is they don’t read the booklet with all the info pro and con for each prop. They go to the polls and read ONE line, the one line usually is in favor of the left. They need to change laws on the ballots so a very clear representation of the ballot is understood by the voter. Not one line. I posted a screenshot of the voter guide & warned my family on my FB page what it was truly about. They got rid of three strikes with prop 47. The one line on the ballot never said that. They were duped because they didn’t read the guide before going to the polls. The one line was some sob story for criminals like helps them get into programs and early release for drugs. Doesn’t sound like gets rid of three strikes does it? Then another thing they like to do is make the language confusing so a “yes” vote means “no” and vice versa.
 
This is obviously a forward thinking law put in place for when the flood Moslem cultural enrichment specialists arrive.
 
I keep waiting for hell to open up and swallow southern California in one bite.
 
I keep waiting for hell to open up and swallow southern California in one bite.

We called for it in the 70s already in AZ. The escapees that would venture in to Arizona were usually out there. They were often encouraged to return to CA.
 
Brown has been releasing criminals, including violent criminals, due to the Supreme Court ordering that California's prison overcrowding be addressed.

The stupid ************ could have simply built a new jail years ago but is a ******* dickwad shitstick. I hope one of these violent crazies murders his entire family.

Hey, guess what? ******* violent crime is increasing in California. What, release violent criminals and violent crime goes up??

For the second year in a row, California saw an increase in violent crimes, according to new state figures which also include the first detailed look at peace officers’ use of force.

http://www.sacbee.com/news/politics-government/capitol-alert/article167879952.html#storylink=cpy

**** Jerry Brown with a rusty iron bar.

if they change the definition of violent crime, the violent crime rate goes down...duh.
 
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