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can we just give California back to Mexico?

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http://time.com/4724121/california-...sses-senate-immigration/?xid=newsletter-brief

California Senate Passes 'Sanctuary State' Bill
Katy Steinmetz
Apr 03, 2017

After heated debate, the California Senate passed a so-called “sanctuary state” bill on Monday. While many Republicans argued that the bill would lead to dangerous criminals being let loose on the streets — warning that the measure would draw the ire of President Donald Trump — Democrats said that California had to take a stand in defense of “hardworking” immigrants that have become part of the country’s cultural and economic backbones.

The bill, formally known as Senate Bill 54, would prohibit state and local law enforcement agencies from using resources to investigate, detain, report or arrest persons for the purposes of immigration enforcement.

The Senate voted 27 to 12 along party lines to pass the measure, which will next be considered by the state Assembly before possibly going to the governor’s desk. California “cannot be intimidated” by threats from Trump to deny sanctuary jurisdictions of federal funds, said state Sen. Kevin de León, the bill’s author. “This is about making our communities safer, not less safe … We don’t grovel and put our hand out so we can get a little money and buy a police car,” he said. “Our role and responsibility is to protect all individuals.”

In an interview for a previous story, León told TIME that the bill will help ensure that all the state’s residents report violent crimes and feel safe enough to interact with government systems such as schools, hospitals and courts. Aggressive immigration enforcement policies have a "chilling effect," he said.

“We don’t have to collaborate and use our local tax dollars to enforce federal immigration laws,” he said in that interview. “If they want to go after the bad guys, the violent felons and drug dealers, we are more than happy to continue to work with them. But if they want to split families up and deport the nanny, that’s not what America’s about and that’s not what California is about.”

Republicans argued on Monday that immigration policy is the domain of the federal government and the bill amounts to the state overstepping its bounds, saying that the measure would also make California a “magnet” for those who commit crimes.

Promising to deport undocumented immigrants was one of Trump's key campaign promises. Since taking office, Trump has issued orders directing that immigration laws be enforced more aggressively and expanding the definition of “criminal aliens” who are targeted for deportation. Before taking office, Trump vowed to create a “deportation force” to carry out such work.

“You’ll be kicking the president right in the groin,” Republican state Sen. Jeff Stone said of the bill, “and I imagine he’s going to strike back.”

The ACLU’s Jennie Pasquarella, director of immigrants’ rights in California, told TIME that the bill is “critical because the only way for the federal government to carry out the kind of mass deportations that they are threatening is through cooperation with local law enforcement.”


While immigrant advocates and some law enforcement officials have expressed support for the measure, arguing that trust between immigrants and local officials is important for public safety, California sheriffs have said it could allow criminals to “slip through the cracks.” In advance of the vote, León amended his bill to allow local law enforcement agents to notify federal authorities about the release of violent criminals.

A new poll conducted by University of California at Berkeley found that there is bipartisan support in the state when it comes to providing a pathway to citizenship and opposing Trump’s proposed wall in the U.S.-Mexico border, yet there are deep divides about sanctuary status. And those can grow deeper depending on how the notion of being a “sanctuary city” is described.

When asked whether they support cities declaring sanctuary status, meaning that local police and enforcement officials do not “automatically turn undocumented immigrants over to federal immigration officers,” 56% of California voters support that position – including 74% of Democrats but only 20% of Republicans.

When the Berkeley researchers framed the issue as an act of withholding – with sanctuary status meaning that cities can “ignore requests” to detain undocumented immigrants who have been arrested and are about to be released – those numbers essentially flip, with fewer Democrats supporting sanctuary status and even more Republicans opposed.

President Trump’s promises to crack down on illegal immigrants have caused fear and panic in many California communities. About 10 million immigrants live in California, and some estimates suggest that 25% of them may be undocumented. Churches have been lining up to offer sanctuary for immigrant residents, as some individuals have cowered in their homes, worried to answer the door for fear that immigration agents might be on the other side.

On March 27, U.S. Attorney General Jeff Sessions said the Department of Justice would be withholding grants from sanctuary cities and attempt to "claw back" any past grants. He cited crimes committed by undocumented immigrants, including the 2015 shooting of Kate Steinle in San Francisco. (Republicans brought up her name in the debate on Monday. "How many more Kate Steinle’s do we need?" said Sen. Stone.)

In late January, San Francisco became the first to sue the federal government over promises to starve sanctuary cities of federal funding, and California Attorney General Xavier Becerra filed a brief supporting that lawsuit following Sessions’ remarks. “Threatening to take away resources from sheriffs and police officers in order to promote misguided views on federal immigration policy is reckless and puts public safety at risk,” Becerra said in a statement.

California has emerged as one of the most powerful seats of resistance to conservative policies coming out of Washington since the election. Earlier in the day, lawmakers debated another measure that would help fund legal representation for immigrants in deportation proceedings, who can be left without counsel when they are unable to afford it.

While some Republicans lawmakers criticized the measure, saying taxpayers should not foot bills for immigrants who did not come through “the front door," Democrats still found the votes to pass it in the Senate, 28 to 11, arguing that it was basic due process for a population that is crucial to the country.

“Immigrants are under attack,” said Democratic state Sen. Scott Wiener, expressing support for the bill. “It’s really important for California, for our government, for this legislature, to send a clear signal to our immigrant communities that we have your back.”
 
Just the blue parts, I need my pistachios


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Does this mean my family and I can start immigrating to some of those big Hollywood mansions? Hey as long as I can get inside I have a right to stay. Think I'll take a trip to the Audi dealership and snag me a loaded up juiced up R8... all I got to do is sit in that ***** and it's mine! I'm a dreamer and it is my right!
 
http://fortune.com/2016/06/17/california-france-6th-largest-economy/

The California economy is 6th largest in the world and provides 35% of the US food supply.
I think we want to keep it. If it was gone, we likely would first need to cut our military by 30%.
California's biggest immigration concern is the farm workers, a lot of them are aging out and retiring and
they don't have a supply to replace them.
 
http://fortune.com/2016/06/17/california-france-6th-largest-economy/

The California economy is 6th largest in the world and provides 35% of the US food supply.
I think we want to keep it. If it was gone, we likely would first need to cut our military by 30%.
California's biggest immigration concern is the farm workers, a lot of them are aging out and retiring and
they don't have a supply to replace them.

Your comments are asinine. You're steering your argument towards the absolutes - we either take California as it is, or we let them leave the Union. For real man?

What needs to happen here is incredibly simple. California and any other state or jurisdiction needs to follow the law. California needs to cooperate with the Federal Government by following Federal immigration laws, period.

The real question is why are you Liberals so bent on breaking the law? So sympathetic to supporting illegal immigration? I'll repeat, for the 1 billionth time, there isn't a soul here against immigration. Just like there isn't a soul here against driving. Just do it legally - don't drive drunk, high or recklessly and we're good.
 
POW!

Sessions Gets Congressional Backup on Sanctuary Cities


Four Republican representatives announced their plan Tuesday to deny general federal funds from American cities that harbor illegal aliens and frustrate federal efforts to enforce immigration laws.

The move comes after Attorney General Jeff Sessions announced his own plans to crack down on these so-called “Sanctuary Cities” by withholding Justice Department grants to which they would otherwise be entitled. Sessions also hinted last week that he would be looking into additional methods of being “detrimental” to these jurisdictions which include some of the nation’s largest communities such as New York City and Cook County, Illinois, home to murder-capital Chicago.

The plan, led by Rep. Steve King (R-IA), Rep. Paul Gosar (R-AZ), Rep. Mo Brooks (R-AL), and Rep. Ken Buck (R-CO), represents the Congressional answer to the call for wider punishment by Attorney General Sessions, is laid out in a request to be delivered Wednesday morning to both the majority and minority leadership of the House Appropriations Committee.

http://www.breitbart.com/big-govern...ets-congressional-backup-on-sanctuary-cities/
 
There's going to be a snow storm when the libbies wake up and hear about this.
 
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The Art of the Deal...We give Mexico California, Mexico pays for the wall. A much longer wall.



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If we give California back to Mexico, I hope that means they will take Californians as well. If not, then no deal.
 
**** California later - lets build The Wall first



Top Mexican Police Official Paid to Tip Off Cartel

MEXICO CITY (AP) - In a major embarrassment for Mexican law enforcement, U.S. prosecutors said in documents made public Wednesday that the commander of a Mexican police intelligence-sharing unit was passing information on a DEA investigation to the Beltran Leyva drug cartel in exchange for millions of dollars.

Ivan Reyes Arzate, 45, was named in a U.S. district court indictment, just hours after Mexican federal police commissioner Manelich Castilla revealed that an unnamed agent had been charged with obstructing an investigation.

What Castilla did not say was that Reyes Arzate was the commander of a federal police sensitive investigative unit. The special units, known as SIUs, were formed starting in the 1990s precisely to create more secure groups that the U.S. could feel comfortable sharing intelligence with. Castilla said Reyes Arzate had been fired in November. He is in U.S. custody.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/wires/ap...said-tip-drug-cartel-probe.html#ixzz4dQ1cwoMm


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If California ever left simply put a huge tarrif on them and their economy would be gone in a year as every corporation fled there and products were delivered to canada or mexico instead
 
We don't give California to Mexico. We put people in jail for breaking federal law. There is no such thing as a sanctuary state. It's treason.

Let them split into two states. That works.
 
If we removed the illegals from California, the state would return to what it has been for the 100 years before it became a dumping ground for Mexico - an economic power, and a Red state.

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This would all have been a moot point if we would have invaded Mexico and turned the spoils over to the Jews. They would have built the wall for us, there would be no more Palestinian--Israeli conflicts and there would have been more jobs in Mexico than there are people to man them.
 
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