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Clinton behind in another blue state poll

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Minnesota: Trump vs. Clinton KSTP/SurveyUSA Clinton 42, Trump 45 Trump +3

Minnesota: Carson vs. Clinton KSTP/SurveyUSA Carson 50, Clinton 41 Carson +9

Minnesota: Rubio vs. Clinton KSTP/SurveyUSA Rubio 47, Clinton 41 Rubio +6

Minnesota: Bush vs. Clinton KSTP/SurveyUSA Clinton 43, Bush 44 Bush +1

This is the second large blue state ( the other was Pennsylvania where she's in behind )
 
Wow, you know it's bad when Jeb's beating you.
 
She's got the Dem bid all but wrapped up - the Bern is done too, crowds all too white to win nationally


Dems Already Looking At Possible VP Candidates To Run On Clinton Ticket

Clinton is expected to name her running mate sometime next summer.

Reportedly among the possible running mates: Sen. Elizabeth Warren, D-Mass., former Maryland governor and presidential contender Martin O'Malley, and Housing and Urban Development Secretary Julián Castro. Because the party is attempting to gain seats in Congress and provide a smooth transition from the Obama administration, Democrat may seek a youthful running mate who offers balance in race and gender matters, as well.

Analysts say Clinton may indeed choose a non-Caucasian to join her on the ticket to secure much of the minority vote that was so instrumental in getting Obama elected twice.

http://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2015...dates-to-run-on-Clinton-ticket/4051447111735/

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'It's very white': Las Vegas audience exposes Bernie Sanders' Latino problem

A mariachi band, a Latino neighbourhood, Spanish language posters and bold immigration pledges: Bernie Sanders was pulling out the stops for Nevada’s Hispanic vote.

Short of dancing salsa, the Democratic candidate did all he could to woo this crucial constituency at a rally on a soccer field in Las Vegas on Sunday night.

He surrounded himself with Latinos on stage and promised to fight for agricultural workers and to shelter families from deportation. It signaled the start of an effort to narrow Hillary Clinton’s wide lead with the state’s Latinos.

There was just one problem: the audience at the Cheyenne sports complex was mostly white.

Latinos largely shunned the call to “feel the Bern”, leaving the crowd to dance stiffly to the Mexican music and a question mark over the campaign’s prospects in Nevada.

“I do notice it’s very white,” said Nathan Rudig, 33, a research analyst, eyeing fellow Sanders supporters. “He’s going to need the Latino and African American vote.”

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...voters-hillary-clinton-vegas?CMP=share_btn_tw
 
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Mark Warner will be Hillary's VP. Clean cut, moderate, business oriented Senator that will guarantee Virginia and
will play well in other toss-up states. 16 more years for Dems.
 
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A non-blue state poll


Clinton Support Soars Among Democrats in South Carolina


Poll: 71 percent of likely S.C. Democratic primary voters back Clinton

Clinton is favored by 80 percent of black Democratic voters, poll finds

“South Carolina is currently Clinton country,” said Winthrop Poll director Scott Huffmon. “While Sanders has drawn large and boisterous crowds – including here at Winthrop – it appears that those crowds might not have significant overlap with likely primary voters."

http://www.thestate.com/news/politi...s-columns-blogs/the-buzz/article42892149.html
 
There is no doubt anymore Clinton is going to win the nomination. It's a done deal.

As far as democrats/Hillary are concerned, wake them up in spring. Which is why I'm not putting much stock into the overall poll numbers yet for imaginary what-if election happens a year from now.

Republicans are much more involved in the process about this election than democrats just because it's a much closer and interesting race on that side of the aisle right now. Once spring/summer hits and Hillary can gears up the political gears of war against a known republican opponent, once she picks a VP candidate to generate some excitement, that's when the race is on and I'll start paying attention to the national polling numbers.

I don't disagree that Hillary can be beaten. I think a ticket of Kasich/Rubio or Rubio/Kasich would have a real shot. But it is by no means a definite. And I still think Trump would lose 60-40% and Cruz 55-45% (which are pretty big landslides historically).
 
The thing that hasn't been mentioned is Clintons can win red states. I believe Bill won Kentucky, Arkansas, Tennessee, Louisiana twice and Georgia once.
Depending on who the repubs nominate, Hillary would have a decent shot at those and then some.
 
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The thing that hasn't been mentioned is Clintons can win red states. I believe Bill won Kentucky, Arkansas, Tennessee, Louisiana twice and Georgia once.
Depending on who the repubs nominate, Hillary would have a decent shot at those and then some.
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Bill would not Hillary.
 
21STEELERS21 said:
The thing that hasn't been mentioned is Clintons can win red states. I believe Bill won Kentucky, Arkansas, Tennessee, Louisiana twice and Georgia once.
Depending on who the repubs nominate, Hillary would have a decent shot at those and then some.
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This is not your daddy's South anymore 21....

Politics | Tue Nov 3, 2015 9:05pm EST..... Election 2016, Politics...Republicans win Kentucky governor's race, second time in 44 years

In Mississippi, Republicans also celebrated widely expected victories for party incumbents.

but I have to agree with Del, we won't know nuthin' 'till the snow melts, the R's pick a team and we find out if Hillary gets indicted or not.

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It's all over but the crying for Bernie's socialist fans.


Party insiders give Clinton early, commanding delegate edge

Hillary has locked up public support from half of the Democratic insiders who cast ballots at the party's national convention, giving her a commanding advantage over her rivals for the party's presidential nomination.

Clinton's margin over Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders and former Maryland Gov. Martin O'Malley is striking. Not only is it big, but it comes more than two months before primary voters head to the polls -- an early point in the race for so many of the people known as superdelegates to publicly back a candidate.

The Associated Press contacted all 712 superdelegates in the past two weeks, and heard back from more than 80 percent. They were asked which candidate they plan to support at the convention next summer.

The results:

Clinton: 359.

Sanders: 8.

O'Malley: 2.

Uncommitted: 210.

The 712 superdelegates make up about 30 percent of the 2,382 delegates needed to clinch the Democratic nomination. That means that more than two months before voting starts, Clinton already has 15 percent of the delegates she needs.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...-give-clinton-early-commanding-delegate-edge/
 
Minnesota was 53% to 45% for Obama in 2012. That's 225,000 votes. They was a 10% split in 2008. It was democrat in Bush's re-election. It was democrat in Bush-Gore.

I just don't see where these polling numbers are going to lead to that type of change in voting record or turnout.

http://uselectionatlas.org/RESULTS/

Minnesota is Hillary's. And any republican that thinks this election process is going to be that type of reversal of history is delusional. You guys are REALLY underestimating Hillary's ability to campaign. She's getting very close to 50% of the overall vote MINIMUM. And that's only if the Republicans put their very best candidates forward that can win in very specific, moderate states.

This is a map showing every state that won BY AT LEAST 5% points over their opponent.

http://www.270towin.com/maps/MQmLN

There were only 6 states that had election results within +/- 5% of each other and whatever Republican runs has to win almost all of them: FL, NC, VA, OH, CO and NV

What's more dangerous is if Hillary selects Mark Warner, a young good-looking white male from Virginia, and wraps that state up and wins all the other states Obama won by +5% or more in the last election, she's at 270 electorate vote and it's over. The Republicans could win FL, OH, NC, CO and NV and still lose.

I personally don't see how it's going to happen. The voting records of people just don't swing that much anymore. We've polarized the whole process so much that the "undecided" isn't really as "undecided" as you think. They end up voting for the same reasons for the same type candidates.

None of the candidates out there is going to change how people voted last time by that much. Everybody talks about "turnout" but that is just bullshit. People who vote, vote. People who don't, don't. And when elections are popular, voting percentage increases for BOTH SIDES. Voter turnout has been 56%, 57%, 55% the last three cycles. That's the new norm in today's social media and info age. That's not going to change.

Republican's need to realize this is a very uphill battle. They to respect their opponent's ability. They need to realize people aren't going to turn up to vote "against Hillary" and they need a candidate to "Vote For". They need to get a candidate that can win FL, OH, VA and NC. East coast, moderate republicans, moderately religious. Not deep south rednecks. Not midwest evangelicals.

Carson might win VA and NC due to being black and kind of baptist religious-like (and that's a huge stretch). He'll lose FL and OH.

Trump might win OH. He'll lose FL, VA and NC.

Cruz might win OH. He'll lose the rest.

Rubio is really the only one that has a chance of sweeping those states. And that's the only chance at winning the white house.
 
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Cruz would have zero chance in Ohio. Ohio is rather moderate and is actually happy with where the economy is going.
 
New Polls will really show Republicans in the lead for a while.

The terrorist attacks in Paris will only boost the far-right. We'll see how much foreign policy and anti-terrorist talk are in the news come next fall. Sometimes timing has a lot to do in politics. If there's another big attack a year from now, you can throw all the polls out the window. Republicans will have a real shot.
 
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