Doing the mock drafts I was always going back n forth with the risk vs reward at pick 17.
What is yinz thoughts on this guy if he fell to 17 in round 1?
DE Bryan Bresee is the risk worth the reward?
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Doing the mock drafts I was always going back n forth with the risk vs reward at pick 17.
What is yinz thoughts on this guy if he fell to 17 in round 1?
Meh i don’t know… id rather trade down than gamble on an injury probe guy living off of athletic ability…. Sounds like he might have a really high bust probability… id rather go boom or bust in the second round..
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I want a full fledge actual starter that isn't pre-damaged goods. Sorry, but there will be better available for our picks.
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So he is a 3-4 DE ie a 2-3 Tech? And risk is associated with his previous injury issues?
He can play on the nose ...but he is a 3/4 DE. He is athletic and powerful. Might have the best combination of that in the draft. When you have a significant injury sure always some concern. But he has had a significant recovery period from his ACL. We can glue to his combine but I don't see a drop off in his athleticism. Not even a guarantee this guy will fall to 17. Talking a top ten talent.
I think the biggest factor is more injury and less performance. He can get after it and is a sure tackler. Only way I see him busting out is if injuries mounted up and eventually robbed him of ability. Still that would be a concern sure.
I think that is what happened to Bush but Bush was built off of speed and undersized. Brian isn't undersized and really has no glaring weakness IMO.
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I’m with you in this and would trade down. We can’t be missing on these high draft picks. These athletic guys to me are just not worth the gamble.
I don't worry about ACL's. They rebuild them better than original. It only matters what he did post injury so you don't get a D. Bush.
Let me get back to you in 3 years.
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I’m with yay on seeing what his combine numbers are. I’m also up with 1st and 2nd rnd trench workers, wether offense or defense. I also want 2 of the first three picks to be trench and one of them being an OLT, not a project, but a bonfire starter.
BPA and value always comes into play when drafting.
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By that time, the new HOT topic will be XXX years and no playoff win combined with “who to replace Tomlin with”………
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He seems like a good guy. My concerns are the injuries and his production hasn't matched his talent level. I'm not saying I wouldn't take him, but I'm targeting LT, CB, WR, or Branch even before I consider drafting a DL in the first round.
That was usually my approach on the mock drafts. I know they don't show it normally but he does get a lot of pressures.
I think the injury definitely impacted the production. Some team is going to be really really happy or really disappointed. The rats seem like the team that would roll the dice if he was sitting there.
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Not a chance for pick #17. The guy didn't make many plays when he was healthy and was hurt too often.
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He’s been “Jen Swained”
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Like Slash said, he is a DE in the 3-4 set. He played over the center a lot for Clemson and from the admittedly little I have seen of him, he just seems to ... disappear.
He had a terrible year last year, with some infection and then missing time because his younger sister had brain cancer and died during the season. I suspect that coming off an ACL and then watching your sister die harmed his concentration and production last year. He fits the part of a 3-4 DE physically but wow, the lack of production mean I would not take him at 17.
If I'm picking at 17 the player should have almost no doubts about them or any minor character or medical doubts have to be offset by overwhelming talent.
What about at 32 what would you take on there?
Once you get beyond 20 in my opinion it becomes more risk reward. After 20 I'm thinking you are either getting a less important position or some issue. As hard as it is to believe Watt had draft question marks. Turned out to be best pick of the draft not just the round. Above 20 I'm looking for pretty complete package. Steelers are on that edge at 17. If you want an absolute stud you will have to take on some risk.