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First down spotting…

They already tried chipping the balls , the teams and especially the qb's were really against it. The company that does the tracking (next gen stats) is Zebra , we use them for tracking in our automotive plant. They took us to a NFL stadium for the demo before we decided to use them (Panther Stadium) They have sensors surrounding the stadium , the players shoulder pads also have them in them.
 
SCSteeler4life said:
They already tried chipping the balls , the teams and especially the qb's were really against it. The company that does the tracking (next gen stats) is Zebra , we use them for tracking in our automotive plant. They took us to a NFL stadium for the demo before we decided to use them (Panther Stadium) They have sensors surrounding the stadium , the players shoulder pads also have them in them.
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The technology to embed the chips "in the leather" is old as dirt now. The players won't even know it's there...
 
The sensors they use are small but the purest did not want the footballs touched. The technology they are using is new , and being updated every day. We have updates to both hardware and software pretty often.
 
SCSteeler4life said:
The sensors they use are small but the purest did not want the footballs touched. The technology they are using is new , and being updated every day. We have updates to both hardware and software pretty often.
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The purest would rather deflate the balls...
 
Can't lose the power to manipulate breh...
 
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Chipping the ball wouldnt really help that much as alot of it depends on when the knee / elbow or whatever went down in relation to the ball. Maybe if a RB was going forward then pushed back they could figure out the ball position. I am not sure how the chip would work exactly, would you need them at both ends and sides of the ball?
 
SCSteeler4life said:
They already tried chipping the balls , the teams and especially the qb's were really against it. The company that does the tracking (next gen stats) is Zebra , we use them for tracking in our automotive plant. They took us to a NFL stadium for the demo before we decided to use them (Panther Stadium) They have sensors surrounding the stadium , the players shoulder pads also have them in them.
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SC is correct, digital tracking to the mm has been proven the last several years with either laser or GPS tags the size of a microchip, between the bladder and the tips of the leather. The only variable being when the ball is kicked/punted (the ball’s shape changes). Also 1st down markers with laser sensors would replace the chain gang. However, studies showed problems removing the visual cues for the fans and players/coaches. Which to a point I would agree. Cameras however should be more involved. Steve Sabol wanted to develop cameras all around the stadiums so that 360 degree views during replay could be used. Currently the NFL are using goal line cameras on the end zone pylons. However, they are solid and could cause an injury. Zeke Elliott reportedly fell on one last week and hurt his back.

Currently the league is going all in for player safety with helmet tech to reduce concussions. League studies have showed a decrease in almost 20% with the new helmets being used. Shoulder pad tech also being heavily researched for reduction in neck/spine injuries.
 
jitter77 said:
Chipping the ball wouldnt really help that much as alot of it depends on when the knee / elbow or whatever went down in relation to the ball. Maybe if a RB was going forward then pushed back they could figure out the ball position. I am not sure how the chip would work exactly, would you need them at both ends and sides of the ball?
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I think you would need a chip on each end of the ball. Also, I think this would be used in conjunction with replay and allow recording of where the ball is at any particular point of the replay. That way, on viewing the replay, you determine the point where the person is down, or where the ball is deemed caught for an in-bounds decision, and locate the position of the ball at that exact point.
 
SCSteeler4life said:
The sensors they use are small but the purest did not want the footballs touched. The technology they are using is new , and being updated every day. We have updates to both hardware and software pretty often.
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We have the technology...
 
Steel Reign said:
As SC mentions, the tech is clearly there. It's like the abject refusal to put cameras directly above each pylon. The NFL claims to be on the cutting edge but, really, not so much.
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They are on the cutting edge so long as it doesn't interfear with game control




Sakute the nation
 
FatsHolmes said:
I think you would need a chip on each end of the ball. Also, I think this would be used in conjunction with replay and allow recording of where the ball is at any particular point of the replay. That way, on viewing the replay, you determine the point where the person is down, or where the ball is deemed caught for an in-bounds decision, and locate the position of the ball at that exact point.
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All fine and dandy in therory but we don't even get proper camera angles durring replay because the chose to not give them. Ball placement would be way out of their arrative to actually be correct.




Salute the nation
 
I $u$pect all thi$ tech $tuff would eliminate much of the "human element" part of the game... and Vega$$$ will have none of that.
 
Ike Kelly said:
SC is correct, digital tracking to the mm has been proven the last several years with either laser or GPS tags the size of a microchip, between the bladder and the tips of the leather. The only variable being when the ball is kicked/punted (the ball’s shape changes). Also 1st down markers with laser sensors would replace the chain gang. However, studies showed problems removing the visual cues for the fans and players/coaches. Which to a point I would agree. Cameras however should be more involved. Steve Sabol wanted to develop cameras all around the stadiums so that 360 degree views during replay could be used. Currently the NFL are using goal line cameras on the end zone pylons. However, they are solid and could cause an injury. Zeke Elliott reportedly fell on one last week and hurt his back.

Currently the league is going all in for player safety with helmet tech to reduce concussions. League studies have showed a decrease in almost 20% with the new helmets being used. Shoulder pad tech also being heavily researched for reduction in neck/spine injuries.
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Thing with K balls is you really don't have to chip them.

I will state, I saw something that defied physics on Sunday morning. I've never seen a football, kicked wide right, completely swing back to the left without wind or spin of the ball being a factor. It was kicked in a dome, and the ball was barely spinning. Checking out the MIA JAX game winning FG. Weird as ****...
 
Tennis has it right. The ball is hit/served harder then any football ever could. They have replays INSTANTLY. Yes the court is smaller but they don't even have to take but 5 seconds and you have a replay showing in or out. No reason the cash cow NFL can't have that. Also sick of watching these so called line judges run down the 32 around 3 fat guys to the 35 and then marking the ball at the 33. They judge the play from angles and guess where the ball goes.
 
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