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[FordFairLane]

Which one is our first round pick running back?

A) 108 attempts for 361 yards 1 TD 24 receptions 112 yards 2 TDs
B) 29 attempts for 153 yards 0 TD 12 receptions 88 yards 0 TDs

Which one is our #1 receiver?

A) 26 receptions 43 targets for 338 yards 1 TD
B) 32 receptions 50 targets for 311 yards 1TD
C) 43 receptions 76 targets for 372 yards 0 TD
D) 32 receptions 48 targets for 362 yards 1 TD

Which one is our starting QB?

A) 78/128 797 yards 3/2 TD to INT Y/A 6.2 AY/A 6.0
B) 112/165 962 yards 2/8 TD to INT Y/A 5.8 AY/A 3.9

_______________________________________________________________________
A) Najee Harris
B) Jaylen Warren

A) Geroge Pickens
B) Chase Claypool
C) Diontae Johnson
D) Pat Freiermuth

A) Mitch Trubisky
B) Kenny Pickett
_____________________________________________________________________

What does this tell me? Warren with that same offensive line is averaging 2 more yards a carry. League average is 4.4 so Harris is way below the mark while Warren is far above it. Bottom line Warren should start after the bye-week.

Looking at the targets to receptions and yards I no longer trade Claypool. HELL NO. But I would trade DJ for a second round pick. I think Pickens needs more playing time and we can move Sims and Gunner into the slot without much of a drop off in production.

We really screwed the pooch with this one. I think KP should have started game one or be held back until after the bye week minimum. So now we have to play him or his confidence is gone. But if we continue to play poorly his confidence might be gone anyway. Proverbial hard and a hard place. I would have used the Trubisky money to sign Eric Fisher and at least have a semi capable LT on the field. I would have let KP and Rudolph fight it out. Rudolph would have easily won. I am not sure where we are this season with Rudolph but I know better than we currently are. Rudolph likely is a one year stop gap but I think that would allow KP to have got used to the NFL speed and have a better shot in 2023 of coming out hot. Can't put the genie back in the bottle. Gotta ride or die with KP.

 

[xjx]

All of Tomlins mistakes are showing up. From poor draft selection to scheme.

 

[xjx]

All of Tomlins mistakes are showing up. From poor draft selection to scheme.

 

[Black & Gold Bleeder]

regarding jaylen warren, I pretty much agree. My eye test tells me he is performing better. For sure. I think it was stan savran after the game touched on this but said he believed those yards were in "garbage time"

My thing is I see Jaylen warren running better early in the game too.

I do harken back amos zeroue and whatever other 3rd down back you want to talk about and how we always thought they were better too.

Im not so sure this is the same thing. I think jaylen is better.

 

[Superman]

IMO, Najee is trying to do too much. He should be playing ball and not out there thinking. He should watch not only film of Derrick Henry, but also of his play last year. He and Henry have the same style - and its not built on being delicate. Last year, Najee was looking to deal the hit. This year he's looking more to leap over a dude or make a highlight reel juke or spin. Which isnt his game. That 3rd down play where he was the dump off and juked himself out of a 1st - if you look at the replay and stop the video at the time he catches the ball and turns, he would have made initial contact with the Eagles LB at the 39 or 40, with a head of steam. Easily a first down at that point.

 

[slashsteel]

I would alternate a RB per series of the two mentioned.

Yes they started Pickett too late. Problem is with this scheme or lack there of it probably mattered very little.

DJs lack of outside production reinforces my belief that he should be the slot WR.

 

[TDX27]

I don't buy Warren starting. I know most on here are Najee haters. I don't think he is playing his best but watch the film. For whatever reason, they put in plays//schemes for Warren where sometimes there is a hole and he hits it. For Najee, on 90% of his runs (no joke here), there are 2 or 3 defenders already in the backfield to greet him when he gets the handoff. Warren has the same result when they call these plays for him as well. It was very obvious in the Beagles game. On Najee's 18 yard run, there was actually a hole. Now, he is doing a stutter step here and there but on the majority of his runs, he is hit the second he gets the ball in the backfield. It's mind-boggling what Canaduh is calling. Why not go with the plays and schemes that work. Actually, Najee's nice run was a great fake and draw by Pickett.

 

[slashsteel]

I don't buy Warren starting. I know most on here are Najee haters. I don't think he is playing his best but watch the film. For whatever reason, they put in plays//schemes for Warren where sometimes there is a hole and he hits it. For Najee, on 90% of his runs (no joke here), there are 2 or 3 defenders already in the backfield to greet him when he gets the handoff. Warren has the same result when they call these plays for him as well. It was very obvious in the Beagles game. On Najee's 18 yard run, there was actually a hole. Now, he is doing a stutter step here and there but on the majority of his runs, he is hit the second he gets the ball in the backfield. It's mind-boggling what Canaduh is calling. Why not go with the plays and schemes that work. Actually, Najee's nice run was a great fake and draw by Pickett.

If they do my suggestion and alternate series. Start with Warren, it will be clear after that who is number 1 deserving.

 

[Black & Gold Bleeder]

Why am I hater for thinking that warren is running better than najee. Cmon....

Oh right, bad Canaduh only appears when Najee is running the ball.

 

[Litos]

Which one is our first round pick running back?

A) 108 attempts for 361 yards 1 TD 24 receptions 112 yards 2 TDs
B) 29 attempts for 153 yards 0 TD 12 receptions 88 yards 0 TDs

Which one is our #1 receiver?

A) 26 receptions 43 targets for 338 yards 1 TD
B) 32 receptions 50 targets for 311 yards 1TD
C) 43 receptions 76 targets for 372 yards 0 TD
D) 32 receptions 48 targets for 362 yards 1 TD

Which one is our starting QB?

A) 78/128 797 yards 3/2 TD to INT Y/A 6.2 AY/A 6.0
B) 112/165 962 yards 2/8 TD to INT Y/A 5.8 AY/A 3.9

_______________________________________________________________________
A) Najee Harris
B) Jaylen Warren

A) Geroge Pickens
B) Chase Claypool
C) Diontae Johnson
D) Pat Freiermuth

A) Mitch Trubisky
B) Kenny Pickett
_____________________________________________________________________

What does this tell me? Warren with that same offensive line is averaging 2 more yards a carry. League average is 4.4 so Harris is way below the mark while Warren is far above it. Bottom line Warren should start after the bye-week.

Looking at the targets to receptions and yards I no longer trade Claypool. HELL NO. But I would trade DJ for a second round pick. I think Pickens needs more playing time and we can move Sims and Gunner into the slot without much of a drop off in production.

We really screwed the pooch with this one. I think KP should have started game one or be held back until after the bye week minimum. So now we have to play him or his confidence is gone. But if we continue to play poorly his confidence might be gone anyway. Proverbial hard and a hard place. I would have used the Trubisky money to sign Eric Fisher and at least have a semi capable LT on the field. I would have let KP and Rudolph fight it out. Rudolph would have easily won. I am not sure where we are this season with Rudolph but I know better than we currently are. Rudolph likely is a one year stop gap but I think that would allow KP to have got used to the NFL speed and have a better shot in 2023 of coming out hot. Can't put the genie back in the bottle. Gotta ride or die with KP.

But how did you know you were drafting pickett to stay with him and rudolph? Hindsight?

 

[TDX27]

If they do my suggestion and alternate series. Start with Warren, it will be clear after that who is number 1 deserving.

If they run the same plays with the same blocking schemes. Even Romo was saying after Warren's one decent run, why don't they run the play that works more often. Warren comes in for that quick-hitting play a couple times a game and it usually works. Maybe it's a change of pace or something. It's not like he is getting much more than Najee other than maybe one run or so a game. Neither runner has been getting many runs in the games. For Najee, he gets the ball in slow motion from the QB (Trubisky and now Pickett) 5 yards behind the line and is immediately hit by 2 or 3 defenders. It's frustrating to watch as a fan how inept Canaduh is by calling that and it must be frustrating for Najee to get hit immediately on 90% of the times he is handed the ball. He never gets a chance to get moving. If they think Warren is better, start him and see what happens and give Najee the quick-hitting change of pace run or two per game and see how it goes. Canaduh is too stupid to figure anything out and it's Monday afternoon so he's obviously not getting fired until maybe the end of the year. Heck, Najee was a pure beast last year behind the worst line in the NFL. I want to see some more of that with Warren doing his change-of-pace thing.

 

[bigben]

Why am I hater for thinking that warren is running better than najee. Cmon....

Oh right, bad Canaduh only appears when Najee is running the ball.

You have your eyes open. You aren't a hater. There are alot of people on this board that can't tell the difference between talent and trash. They love Najee like they loved conner and juju. Because you know Conner and JuJu were an obvious upgrade over Bell and Brown.
These people fall in love with subpar talent and will argue till the cows come home. Trying to protect their agenda. Despite awful tape and obvious black and white statistics showing Harris to be among the worst RB in the league.

 

[steel dino]

Which one is our first round pick running back?

A) 108 attempts for 361 yards 1 TD 24 receptions 112 yards 2 TDs
B) 29 attempts for 153 yards 0 TD 12 receptions 88 yards 0 TDs

Which one is our #1 receiver?

A) 26 receptions 43 targets for 338 yards 1 TD
B) 32 receptions 50 targets for 311 yards 1TD
C) 43 receptions 76 targets for 372 yards 0 TD
D) 32 receptions 48 targets for 362 yards 1 TD

Which one is our starting QB?

A) 78/128 797 yards 3/2 TD to INT Y/A 6.2 AY/A 6.0
B) 112/165 962 yards 2/8 TD to INT Y/A 5.8 AY/A 3.9

_______________________________________________________________________
A) Najee Harris
B) Jaylen Warren

A) Geroge Pickens
B) Chase Claypool
C) Diontae Johnson
D) Pat Freiermuth

A) Mitch Trubisky
B) Kenny Pickett
_____________________________________________________________________

What does this tell me? Warren with that same offensive line is averaging 2 more yards a carry. League average is 4.4 so Harris is way below the mark while Warren is far above it. Bottom line Warren should start after the bye-week.

Looking at the targets to receptions and yards I no longer trade Claypool. HELL NO. But I would trade DJ for a second round pick. I think Pickens needs more playing time and we can move Sims and Gunner into the slot without much of a drop off in production.

We really screwed the pooch with this one. I think KP should have started game one or be held back until after the bye week minimum. So now we have to play him or his confidence is gone. But if we continue to play poorly his confidence might be gone anyway. Proverbial hard and a hard place. I would have used the Trubisky money to sign Eric Fisher and at least have a semi capable LT on the field. I would have let KP and Rudolph fight it out. Rudolph would have easily won. I am not sure where we are this season with Rudolph but I know better than we currently are. Rudolph likely is a one year stop gap but I think that would allow KP to have got used to the NFL speed and have a better shot in 2023 of coming out hot. Can't put the genie back in the bottle. Gotta ride or die with KP.

OUTSTANDING post Fairlane!

 

[livingthrudying]

Which one is our first round pick running back?

A) 108 attempts for 361 yards 1 TD 24 receptions 112 yards 2 TDs
B) 29 attempts for 153 yards 0 TD 12 receptions 88 yards 0 TDs

Which one is our #1 receiver?

A) 26 receptions 43 targets for 338 yards 1 TD
B) 32 receptions 50 targets for 311 yards 1TD
C) 43 receptions 76 targets for 372 yards 0 TD
D) 32 receptions 48 targets for 362 yards 1 TD

Which one is our starting QB?

A) 78/128 797 yards 3/2 TD to INT Y/A 6.2 AY/A 6.0
B) 112/165 962 yards 2/8 TD to INT Y/A 5.8 AY/A 3.9

_______________________________________________________________________
A) Najee Harris
B) Jaylen Warren

A) Geroge Pickens
B) Chase Claypool
C) Diontae Johnson
D) Pat Freiermuth

A) Mitch Trubisky
B) Kenny Pickett
_____________________________________________________________________

What does this tell me? Warren with that same offensive line is averaging 2 more yards a carry. League average is 4.4 so Harris is way below the mark while Warren is far above it. Bottom line Warren should start after the bye-week.

Looking at the targets to receptions and yards I no longer trade Claypool. HELL NO. But I would trade DJ for a second round pick. I think Pickens needs more playing time and we can move Sims and Gunner into the slot without much of a drop off in production.

We really screwed the pooch with this one. I think KP should have started game one or be held back until after the bye week minimum. So now we have to play him or his confidence is gone. But if we continue to play poorly his confidence might be gone anyway. Proverbial hard and a hard place. I would have used the Trubisky money to sign Eric Fisher and at least have a semi capable LT on the field. I would have let KP and Rudolph fight it out. Rudolph would have easily won. I am not sure where we are this season with Rudolph but I know better than we currently are. Rudolph likely is a one year stop gap but I think that would allow KP to have got used to the NFL speed and have a better shot in 2023 of coming out hot. Can't put the genie back in the bottle. Gotta ride or die with KP.

Lot of truth in here. Kenny could end up being the greatest ever and it still was not the right time to take a QB with how many other holes and issues we have on this team (that's not even considering how many better QB's there are in next years draft supposedly).

We have seen enough of Pickens to know that he should be playing a lot more. Should Trade DJ, his extension is low enough that it still gives him a lot of value to another team.

As far as Pickett started this is just a big huge mess that revolves around the coach and the owner refusing to acknowledge that we are in a rebuild and not a "reloading". Reloading is what you do when you are a semi strong team that just lost a player or two. Not when you barely got by the last few years, just lost a HOF QB and have glaring holes all over your team.

 

[TDX27]

You have your eyes open. You aren't a hater. There are alot of people on this board that can't tell the difference between talent and trash. They love Najee like they loved conner and juju. Because you know Conner and JuJu were an obvious upgrade over Bell and Brown.
These people fall in love with subpar talent and will argue till the cows come home. Trying to protect their agenda. Despite awful tape and obvious black and white statistics showing Harris to be among the worst RB in the league.

So you seriously think Najee was one of the worst last year? I think you might be the delusional one. Behind the worst line in the NFL, he had 1,600+ yards from scrimmage (1,200 rushing with 7 TD's and 74 catches for another 467 and 3 TD's). I'd put that up with the top 10 in the league. This year, he's been injured. Up until last week, he was playing with a steel plate in his shoe. Sure, he is stuttering stepping too much this year and not being the bull he was last year but there are reasons and he's still running behind the worst line in the NFL with the worst OC and play caller in the NFL. People labeling him a bust are flat-out nuts. They're the same people calling Pickett a bust already. I'll give them both the benefit of the doubt and see how they do with a better OC and team around them. Najee did show his burst on his 18-yard run yesterday when he actually had a hole and not 3 guys greeting him 5 yards in the backfield. I said it would take 3 years to build a truly competitive team around KP (O and D) and I'll stick with that. And, heck, if Warren ends up being better than Najee in the end, that's great for the Steelers but I'm not anointing him anything as of yet just like I'm not calling Najee the best in the league.

 

[FordFairLane]

regarding jaylen warren, I pretty much agree. My eye test tells me he is performing better. For sure. I think it was stan savran after the game touched on this but said he believed those yards were in "garbage time"

My thing is I see Jaylen warren running better early in the game too.

I do harken back amos zeroue and whatever other 3rd down back you want to talk about and how we always thought they were better too.

Im not so sure this is the same thing. I think jaylen is better.

1st Quarter

8

46

5.8

2nd Quarter

8

39

4.9

3rd Quarter

4

15

3.8

4th Quarter

8

51

6.4

To a point he’s running better in “garbage time” but still averaging 5.8 in the 1st quarter.

 

[FordFairLane]

IMO, Najee is trying to do too much. He should be playing ball and not out there thinking. He should watch not only film of Derrick Henry, but also of his play last year. He and Henry have the same style - and its not built on being delicate. Last year, Najee was looking to deal the hit. This year he's looking more to leap over a dude or make a highlight reel juke or spin. Which isnt his game. That 3rd down play where he was the dump off and juked himself out of a 1st - if you look at the replay and stop the video at the time he catches the ball and turns, he would have made initial contact with the Eagles LB at the 39 or 40, with a head of steam. Easily a first down at that point.

I see a little bit of Trent Richardson in him. Just not great at seeing the holes. I’m not giving up on him but I’m also the kinda coach that puts the best 11 on the field regardless of drafted round.

 

[SteelerFan448]

Yep. The Steelers totally botched the rebuild after Ben. They didn’t build a strong foundation with the offensive line. They started Pickett too soon and they have a terrible offensive coaching staff.

 

[slashsteel]

Yep. The Steelers totally botched the rebuild after Ben. They didn’t build a strong foundation with the offensive line. They started Pickett too soon and they have a terrible offensive coaching staff.

No good time to start a rookie in this scheme. I am surprised you didn't mention the D they have a good amount of suck.

 

[Black & Gold Bleeder]

Yes way more than they should.

 

[Tim Steelersfan]

regarding jaylen warren, I pretty much agree. My eye test tells me he is performing better. For sure. I think it was stan savran after the game touched on this but said he believed those yards were in "garbage time"

My thing is I see Jaylen warren running better early in the game too.

I do harken back amos zeroue and whatever other 3rd down back you want to talk about and how we always thought they were better too.

Im not so sure this is the same thing. I think jaylen is better.

Someone posted the video of Najee not seeing holes, missing those open holes, and dancing. He's been a let down.

He had that play yesterday where he caught a dump off and had 3 yards to go to get a first down. He danced and pranced like he was in the Nutcracker. I'm screaming at the screen "Turn your head upfield and run!"

Warren gets the ball, sees a gap or the hole, hits that damned gap like a hammering rod and drives forward. Doesn't hesitate.

Najee and Diontae both dance and prance.

GET THE DAMNED BALL, TURN YOUR HEAD UPFIELD AND DRIVE FORWARD.

Jaylen should be starting IMHO. At this point, what do we have to lose? Najee dances like he is Leveon, who could explode off of a hesitation. Najee can't.

 

[madinsomniac]

All of our players are trying to do too much and its costing them in performance… Najeh is dancing around looking for homerun holes instead of just going fast and hard … the wrs are all trying to turn every route into hr balls… their sloppy routes and bad reads aren’t getting them open and they are more focused on RAC than catching the ball first … that lack of concentration is causing a lot of drops

The line is totally not playing unified… guys like chuks are trying too hard to make individual blocks that they are totally ignoring fundamentals and often jumping the gun on plays…

Everyone needs to just play their roles and the splash plays will come naturally

 

[JMM]

Just my .02 but I wouldn't throw Naj out during a **** show of a season like this. He was a hell of a player last year and he didn't suddenly forget how to run. I think he's hurt and probably trying to do too much. Wouldn't be surprised if he goes under the knife sooner or later.

 

[SteelerFan448]

No good time to start a rookie in this scheme. I am surprised you didn't mention the D they have a good amount of suck.

The defense is bad too, which adds pressure for the offense to put up points, but this coaching staff thinks the defense is going to allow 13 points per game the way the offense is designed.

 

[SteelerFan448]

Someone posted the video of Najee not seeing holes, missing those open holes, and dancing. He's been a let down.

If you want to see some bad film, watch Pickett last week. Oof, real bad.