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I think Faulkner actually deserves tge OC position next year

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Don’t get me wrong, they absolutely need to get an “out of org” Passing game coordinator as well, but the guy has done a magnificent job scripting early game drives and has been the best RB coach we have had since Hoak retired… he definitely gets the Running game…

I know everyone including myself clamors for outside perspectives… but that doesn’t necessarily have to be the OC.. changing the OL coach, finding a better wr coach, and adding a PGC could be enough of an overhaul without jettisoning Faulkner, who is definitely one of the better coaches we have.

Sometimes promoting from within is the best option… not always, but definitely on occasion…
 
Sorry but I disagree 100%. I think the entire O staff needs to go. We need an entirely new system and schemes and coaches. We do not need someone to just call Canaduh's plays differently. Plus, Faulkner is the organizing guy while Sullivan has been calling the plays so who do you promote? I say neither and both are asked to retire.
 
Faulkner is the only assistant on offense or defense that I’d keep. Prefer an outside hire and not a FOM (Friend Of Mike’s).
 
I think i would rather have someone outside come in. We had 3 good games. 2 were against a really bad Bengals defense and one was against a bad Seattle defense. In the other games things looked very similar to Canada. The line also did not hold up, we couldn't run, and had mitch at QB. Against a decent defense i think the offensive coaches panic and it looks ugly. The Ravens game and playoffs if we get there will give us a better sample
 
Absolutely not. The setup of Faulkner as the OC and Sullivan calling the plays probably isn’t something you want again. That duo also had the offense scoring fewer points than Canada for several weeks into their tenure.

This organization needs outside ideas and to make a big hire at OC. More of the same will have us back at 9-8 next season. An outside OC may not even be good, but I want to at least find out.
 
Don’t get me wrong, they absolutely need to get an “out of org” Passing game coordinator as well, but the guy has done a magnificent job scripting early game drives and has been the best RB coach we have had since Hoak retired… he definitely gets the Running game…

I know everyone including myself clamors for outside perspectives… but that doesn’t necessarily have to be the OC.. changing the OL coach, finding a better wr coach, and adding a PGC could be enough of an overhaul without jettisoning Faulkner, who is definitely one of the better coaches we have.

Sometimes promoting from within is the best option… not always, but definitely on occasion…
You point out that he's an amazing RB coach while recommending they remove him as RB coach to get some OTHER buddy of Mike Tomlin's so your "Good" coach can move formally into a "yes man" role doing exactly what he's told until Art finally fires him. All while Mike Tomlin tells the media some ****** colloquialisms.
 
Faulkner back to RB Coach and bring in fresh faces for OC, OL Coach, WR Coach, ST Coach, DC and tell Tomlin who he is hiring. That should come from Omar and Andy but Andy could be gone I’m afraid.
Damn I wanted them to try and trade Shades for some high draft choices and bring in Clint Kubiack and Brian Griese from the Niners staff.
Wash, rinse repeat!
 
Faulkner and Sullivan will be back. Mark it down.

Odf course, Tomlin here’s to stay, why wouldn’t his award winning crew be with him………. ???


Salute the nation
 
Faulkner or Faulkner and Sullivan probably will be here next year. My preference is no one just gets handed the keys and they do a true out of building search for an OC and DC.
 
He at least earned an interview IMO. I wouldn’t jump the gun and promote him next season
 
I think i would rather have someone outside come in. We had 3 good games. 2 were against a really bad Bengals defense and one was against a bad Seattle defense. In the other games things looked very similar to Canada. The line also did not hold up, we couldn't run, and had mitch at QB. Against a decent defense i think the offensive coaches panic and it looks ugly. The Ravens game and playoffs if we get there will give us a better sample

After OC and DC, the third most important assistant is the Oline coach, who often sets Techniques, and Schemes and does the lions share of gameplanning the game specific blocking strategies… our two big deficiencies on O are blocking and the passing game structure… its idiotic that many if not most of our big pass plays are herculean efforts by the receivers…

I am fine with letting Sullivan leave or just return to QB coach.. but a passing game coordinator who calls in game plays would be more beneficial than a whole new OC… because Faulkner has shown the ability to breakdown and target team’s weaknesses… that always shows up in the first two drives of the game…


Here is the thing… an offensive playbook can be over a thousand different plays. Only a hundred or so will be active for a gameplan though… and few teams ever totally scrap a playbook.

I guarantee that there are stil plays from cowhers era in our playbook… maybe even noll… but the most recent OC probably has installed maybe 75% of his plays into it.. and it often takes two to three years to totally transition away from an OCs plays… because you can only install so much per season without overwhelming the players…
We are going to have to have an X’s and O’s passing game guy redevelop all the route concepts that Canada half assed..
Canada was a run game specialist so it’s possible that a good portion of that is still useable.
X’s and O’s guys like Haley often don’t have the other half of the coordinator position down… the people interaction and communication of concepts and strategies to the players… they basically are playing real life Madden… and when the players don’t really understand the concept of the play, they tend to adjust in counterproductive ways… make sure tge blockers are targeting the key blocks.. make sure receivers understand the important impacts of their routes… make sure the QB understands what they need to do for blitzes and progressions… don’t just draw it up and expect them to get it picture perfect without guidance

That was a huge flaw of Canada’s…and a strength of Faulkner, who really was one of the few up n comers ever on a Tomlin Staff…


Like I said… Id be open to them keeping him… but if tgey moved on from Austin I would expect an outside hire
 
Faulker back to RB coach, bring in a creative mind, and install a RPO system maybe Wes Walker Lefty, someone who will know and make the type of calls that DJ Pickens and Austin can expliot the most Slants all burners as soon each gets space they pile on the YAC.
 
They better bring in a real OC with a modern passing attack. You can still be run first like the 49ers and Ravens but have a pass game designed in this century.

As the man said

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Hell no, we need to catch up with the rest of the NFL and find a legit OC, first off is forcing Tomlin to allow one to be hired and to run their system, if it's Tomlin's call then we'll have the same old same old. We just played two of the worst defenses in the NFL, it's funny how quickly everyone forgets about the ****** games
 
Hell no, we need to catch up with the rest of the NFL and find a legit OC, first off is forcing Tomlin to allow one to be hired and to run their system, if it's Tomlin's call then we'll have the same old same old. We just played two of the worst defenses in the NFL, it's funny how quickly everyone forgets about the ****** games
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The two headed OC monster has had 2 good games, 1 below average game, and 3 terrible games.

Balance that against the years of bottom 10 offenses in the league or worse produced by Tomlins yes men

Tomlin cannot make this hire internally, Rooney must drive the bus on this. How this goes down will say a lot about this organization
 
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The two headed OC monster has had 2 good games, 1 below average game, and 2 terrible games.

Balance that against the years of bottom 10 offenses in the league or worse produced by Tomlins yes men

Tomlin cannot make this hire internally, Rooney must drive the bus on this. How this goes down will say a lot about this organization
I say let Kahn and Wiedl steer that ship in the off-season.
 
Ron....Ron.....Ron..
First you say your pulling for the Browns to win the Super Bowl and now this?

This is not the Ron Burgundy we all have know and come to lo.......well like anyway.... ;)

I must ask....are you feeling all right man?!?
 
I say let Kahn and Wiedl steer that ship in the off-season.
This would be a good idea, but until Rooney comes out and says this, this is all on Tomlin, he interviewed the F.O. candidates, that tells everyone everything they need to know about how much power Tomlin has in this organization.
 
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