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Management Priorities

Buddy Dial

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BACKGROUND:
First time poster, reader for about a year. Pgh raised, Steeler fan since early 60’s, former season ticket holder (left area in early 70s), attended “Immaculate Reception” game, Mean Joe Greene best Steeler ever (not even close), now retired in SC and the last few years Steeler football driving me, much too early, towards “assisted living” or just nuts!

Steeler’s Management Priorities:

1. Maximize Earnings for Organization
2. Protect Perceived Integrity of NFL and Steeler Management
3. Protect Reputation of long term Head Coaching Stability
4. Produce Winning Team
5. Listen to Fans

Pretty evident above is the order of current management priorities if evaluated through neutral eyes, however, I believe that #3 should be at the bottom of the list. Rooneys would like for all of these things to occur but are not willing to make bold changes to improve our on field situation. In today’s world, both corporate and football, it’s essential for management to be intelligent enough to recognize when adverse conditions warrant change, then to make those important changes. As it relates to winning, why hold a stock or product (team) that looks to be in an extended free fall when those assets could be used with a more promising investment. Not change without reason, but change when warranted. The team’s success over the years under Tomlin is trending downward while Noll and Cowher had to build winners. Not all coaching changes work out, and just because we have a previous history of long tenured head coaches doesn’t mean that philosophy fits with all hires. Are the Rooneys afraid of admitting a mistake? Most people can certainly evaluate the current situation here and see where it’s heading. The longer it takes for corrective action usually the longer the recovery.

I was very much a Tomlin supporter for his first 4 years or so until I finally realized all his bravado was just talk. I saw, but overlooked his game management gaffs, then during several training camps his lack of involvement with coaching the team on the field and certainly never saw it on TV during games. I’ve never seen him instruct a player on technique nor do I believe he has any serious input as far as the schemes are concerned. I have no faith in his technical football knowledge. He only has limited pro background experience with TB and the Vikings. Maybe he organizes the practices? Why do players say they like him? Do you think it has something to do with his say as to whether they have a paycheck on not?? He does handle the press well allowing them access and then providing the good quotes! Local press are all his “homers” who he manipulates. Drafting and free agents, Colbert/Cowher worked pretty well together, Colbert/Tomlin not good. What’s the difference? I have read on a board where people asked what Tomlin brings to the table but have never seen a good answer. Personally I have no clue.

Comparing records with Cowher doesn’t make much sense with the quality QB difference issue that is undeniable. What other position’s importance is even 25% as much as that of the QB? The team’s main problem though is the quality of the Tomlin era draft picks and free agent decisions that have left us with a below average overall roster. Those who say we have a lot of talent on this roster are kidding themselves! Take an honest look at some of the top teams and their players. Sure we have a few good ones but not nearly enough. In Tomlin’s defense, neither Noll nor Cowher, even Vince Lombardi, Don Shula, or George Allen all when in their heydays, could never have won consistently with our current group of players!! But, of course, in their defense none of those coaches built this roster either! As for this years record and player stats so far, look at the quality of our schedule before judging them!
Don’t try blaming the other coaches who Tomlin assembled for this debacle. He has had eight years to get those positions right. Sorry, but with these Steelers the buck stops with Tomlin!
 
*stands up and applauds*

Welcome to this board.
 
Beautiful post!

Brought a tear to my eye
 
Wait the Tomlin balchinians will call this racist. There can't be something wrong with coach cool shades he's the right color and everything.
 
Very true but so many "experts" in the media still say Tomlin is not on the hot seat even if they have another bad season this year. And, yes, 8-8 is a bad season. Not making the playoffs is a bad season. Tomlin and Colbert must be on the hot seat along with his O and D coordinators. If they aren't, it is a true shame.
 
If the Rooney's had any courage, they should've given Kevin Colbert and Omar Kahn their walking papers last evening for starters. Colbert for his piss poor drafting over they years and Kahn for having this team in salary cap hell for years to come. This would've gotten the attention of others. This organization is a debacle right now. It's starts with the owners!
 
Many fans are idiots...don't think I want a team running themselves based on "what fans want"....

Produce a winning team should be #1....in many cases it is not though
 
Many fans are idiots...don't think I want a team running themselves based on "what fans want"....

Produce a winning team should be #1....in many cases it is not though
 
Buddy, great first post. Also a fan since we got season tickets in 1968. I too was a Tomlin defender but not any more. He just seems to stand there and do nothing during a game. What fans want should always be last otherwise we would have a different OC every 2 weeks. This team has some decent talent on offense but the execution is not there which puzzles me. You see flashes of it then it goes away. I would not be surprised if Ben plays out his contract next season and goes to Arizona.
 
They let Al Woods and Jerricho Cotchery leave, and replace them with Fat Pat and Invisible Lance. Draft classes that are completely gone. Continually drafting 3-4 DEs while ignoring CB, NT, and OL. I think that says it all.
 
Yes personnel decisions have been dumb and dumber, we know the coach puts the team he wants together.

Lets bring in failed and declining vets.

Hell Blount might be the only decent signing.

Patriots molded him well.

The others were clearly flawed, except Mitchell who as helped by a top notch pressure D.

so yeah horrible decision making
 
As I watch head coach of Giants last night , giving some players on the side , what for, I thought in all the time Tomlin has been in Pittsburgh I have never seen him shown doing this.
 
BACKGROUND:
First time poster, reader for about a year. Pgh raised, Steeler fan since early 60’s, former season ticket holder (left area in early 70s), attended “Immaculate Reception” game, Mean Joe Greene best Steeler ever (not even close), now retired in SC and the last few years Steeler football driving me, much too early, towards “assisted living” or just nuts!

Steeler’s Management Priorities:

1. Maximize Earnings for Organization
2. Protect Perceived Integrity of NFL and Steeler Management
3. Protect Reputation of long term Head Coaching Stability
4. Produce Winning Team
5. Listen to Fans

Pretty evident above is the order of current management priorities if evaluated through neutral eyes, however, I believe that #3 should be at the bottom of the list. Rooneys would like for all of these things to occur but are not willing to make bold changes to improve our on field situation. In today’s world, both corporate and football, it’s essential for management to be intelligent enough to recognize when adverse conditions warrant change, then to make those important changes. As it relates to winning, why hold a stock or product (team) that looks to be in an extended free fall when those assets could be used with a more promising investment. Not change without reason, but change when warranted. The team’s success over the years under Tomlin is trending downward while Noll and Cowher had to build winners. Not all coaching changes work out, and just because we have a previous history of long tenured head coaches doesn’t mean that philosophy fits with all hires. Are the Rooneys afraid of admitting a mistake? Most people can certainly evaluate the current situation here and see where it’s heading. The longer it takes for corrective action usually the longer the recovery.

I was very much a Tomlin supporter for his first 4 years or so until I finally realized all his bravado was just talk. I saw, but overlooked his game management gaffs, then during several training camps his lack of involvement with coaching the team on the field and certainly never saw it on TV during games. I’ve never seen him instruct a player on technique nor do I believe he has any serious input as far as the schemes are concerned. I have no faith in his technical football knowledge. He only has limited pro background experience with TB and the Vikings. Maybe he organizes the practices? Why do players say they like him? Do you think it has something to do with his say as to whether they have a paycheck on not?? He does handle the press well allowing them access and then providing the good quotes! Local press are all his “homers” who he manipulates. Drafting and free agents, Colbert/Cowher worked pretty well together, Colbert/Tomlin not good. What’s the difference? I have read on a board where people asked what Tomlin brings to the table but have never seen a good answer. Personally I have no clue.

Comparing records with Cowher doesn’t make much sense with the quality QB difference issue that is undeniable. What other position’s importance is even 25% as much as that of the QB? The team’s main problem though is the quality of the Tomlin era draft picks and free agent decisions that have left us with a below average overall roster. Those who say we have a lot of talent on this roster are kidding themselves! Take an honest look at some of the top teams and their players. Sure we have a few good ones but not nearly enough. In Tomlin’s defense, neither Noll nor Cowher, even Vince Lombardi, Don Shula, or George Allen all when in their heydays, could never have won consistently with our current group of players!! But, of course, in their defense none of those coaches built this roster either! As for this years record and player stats so far, look at the quality of our schedule before judging them!
Don’t try blaming the other coaches who Tomlin assembled for this debacle. He has had eight years to get those positions right. Sorry, but with these Steelers the buck stops with Tomlin!



Best post I've read in quite sometime
 
Buddy, great first post. Also a fan since we got season tickets in 1968. I too was a Tomlin defender but not any more. He just seems to stand there and do nothing during a game. What fans want should always be last otherwise we would have a different OC every 2 weeks. This team has some decent talent on offense but the execution is not there which puzzles me. You see flashes of it then it goes away. I would not be surprised if Ben plays out his contract next season and goes to Arizona.


Ben is under contract next year. If he doesn't extend, STEELERS could franchise him for another year. We essentially have him for two more years. If he doesn't sign, no worries, we have Landry Jones! ! !


Kuddos to original poster!!! Now get your **** together and get to posting again :)



Salute the naation
 
If the Rooney's had any courage, they should've given Kevin Colbert and Omar Kahn their walking papers last evening for starters. Colbert for his piss poor drafting over they years and Kahn for having this team in salary cap hell for years to come. This would've gotten the attention of others. This organization is a debacle right now. It's starts with the owners!

Kahn negotiates contracts for players the head coach wants on the team. The dead money and salary cap hell is from that it is not something he did single handedly. The drafts are not on just Colbert, coach cool shades has lots of input as well and for being below the line well he owns that it is another swallow for him if you will. The one common denominator in this whole debacle is MT. The slide started when he got here. Colberts drafts were ok before the arrival of MT he did not have a lobotomy he has a new head coach. The offense was low scoring with Arians who let Ben do what ever he wanted, and the defense bailed him out. We now have Hailey who is low scoring and the common denominator is BEN. Ben has talent but we are seeing what happens when talent does not work hard.
 
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