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Results
Economic Axis: Centrist
57.9%
42.1%
Diplomatic Axis: Patriotic
68.6%
31.4%
Civil Axis: Moderate
53.8%
46.2%
Societal Axis: Progressive
39.3%
60.7%
Closest Match: Centrist

Ideological matching is a work in progress, and is much less accurate than the values and axes.

You can send these results by copying and pasting the URL at the top of the page or using the image below. Think your matched ideology was wrong? Want to help us calibrate the test? Send the results along with your political ideology to us at eightvalues@gmail.com, or send us any comments, questions, or criticism. 8results.jpg
 
Right-Wing Populist. Not "fully" in agreement but it's not far off.

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I think the one things you'll see that connect most of us will be "Patriotic" scale. If Elftard, Tibs and Trog take the test, you watch how low their Patriotic scale is. They have American guilt.....

Much more so than left-right ideology, I think the big difference is that.
 
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Took it again, changing answers only slightly (for instance from Agree to Strongly Agree, or vice versa). Basically the same answer, just lowering or upping the intensity some. Interesting.

Test 1:
Economic Axis: Centrist
37.2%
62.8%

Diplomatic Axis: Patriotic
65.4%
34.6%

Civil Axis: Moderate
35%
65%

Societal Axis: Traditional
66%
34%


Test 2:
Economic Axis: Centrist
40.2%
59.8%

Diplomatic Axis: Patriotic
70.2%
29.8%

Civil Axis: Moderate
40.4%
59.6%

Societal Axis: Traditional
62.0%
38.0%
 
deljzc said:
I think the one things you'll see that connect most of us will be "Patriotic" scale. If Elftard, Tibs and Trog take the test, you watch how low their Patriotic scale is. They have American guilt.....

Much more so than left-right ideology, I think the big difference is that.
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You nailed it. Everyone else shows "Patriotic" as a result so far.

Tibs: 49.5% Nation, 50.5% World.

"But, but, but...I love America."
 
Tim Steelersfan said:
You nailed it. Everyone else shows "Patriotic" as a result so far. Tibs: 49.5% Nation, 50.5% World. "But, but, but...I love America."
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Boo hoo. Loving your country and being a nationalist are two separate things. Sue me if I'm not a far righter like the majority on this board. Tell me something I don't know.
 
Tim Steelersfan said:
You nailed it. Everyone else shows "Patriotic" as a result so far.

Tibs: 49.5% Nation, 50.5% World.

"But, but, but...I love America."
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More concerning to me is that he is 53.1% Liberty and 46.9% authority. Think he is friends with Putin?
 
Economic Axis: Capitalist

23.2%
76.8%

Diplomatic Axis: Nationalist

76.6%
23.4%

Civil Axis: Statist

39.6%
60.4%

Societal Axis: Traditional

68.1%
31.9%

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I'm not sure how they calculated Statist. I was neutral on some of those. I'll re-take it. The others are pretty accurate.

Re-take:

Civil Axis: Moderate

43.1%
56.9%
 
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Centrist

Economic Axis: Centrist 45.1%

Diplomatic Axis : Patriotic 66.5%

Civil Axis: Moderate 50.4%

Societal Axis: Neutral 48.6%

I wonder how my scores and Tibs can both be considered centrists and be about as opposite politically as two people one could be. Bizarre. Tibs we will have to compare notes on our stances on the issues to see how it is possible lol.
 
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I took the test again as if I were the Elftard and a truthful Tibs. And I nailed it!

Economic Axis: Socialist

87.8%
12.2%

Diplomatic Axis: Cosmopolitan

9.6%
90.4%

Civil Axis: Libertarian

84.6%
15.4%

Societal Axis: Revolutionary

94.3%

Closest Match: Libertarian Socialism

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Eh, maybe not. I missed the Libertarian part of the result. But it was kind of fun answering the questions like a commie idiot.
 
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Results
Economic Axis: Market

29.3%
70.7%

Diplomatic Axis: Patriotic

64.9%
35.1%

Civil Axis: Moderate

54.6%
45.4%

Societal Axis: Neutral

48.8%
51.2%

Closest Match: Neo-Liberalism

Huh. A lot of the questions were more of the "in some cases" kind of answers so I left them pretty neutral.
 
I don't need to take this crap to know where I stand politically.

I am a conservative constitutionalist with a lot of libertarian leanings. Small government restrained by the Constitution, the natural rights of all men, personal liberty, and personal responsibility. I am for strong national defense, strong national sovereignty, and a non-interventionist foreign-policy. I want us out of the United Nations. And I want us out of the world police/quasi-empire business.
 
Economic Axis: Market

33.5%
66.5%

Diplomatic Axis: Patriotic

71.8%
28.2%

Civil Axis: Moderate

44.2%
55.8%

Societal Axis: Neutral

58.1%
41.9%

Closest Match: Neo-Liberalism
Ideological matching is a work in progress, and is much less accurate than the values and axes.
You can send these results by copying and pasting the URL at the top of the page or using the image below. Think your matched ideology was wrong? Want to help us calibrate the test? Send the results along with your political ideology to us at eightvalues@gmail.com, or send us any comments, questions, or criticism.
 
I do think the questions are a bit odd. There are few I picked "neutral" because there are situations I would be agree/disagree and maybe even strongly disagree/strongly disagree under the same "general" question.

But I stand by the fact most educated people believe in the same thing. It's just ideological difference on size of government to get there. What Trump (and the real driver behind the arguments on this board) are really about is Nationalism and a growing schism between those of us old enough to still be proud of our country and almost fundamentally believe our Constitution is the greatest document in the world (to the point I actually think most other countries would benefit by copying it word for word as their own) vs. a growing guilt-driven ideology that is being fueled by the media, liberal elite and educational elite that somehow "other forms of governance" are just as good (if not better) than our Constitution. That our Constitution should change with the times and that we should adopt more Euro-socialist ideals (including the possibility of changing our Constitution to reflect that).

There is just a very growing acceptance that countries with "some" of the same freedoms as us are okay under different Constitutions or peaceful Sharia or whatever and we should respect and hold them equal. I don't. Our Constitution is best. Period. You either believe that or you don't.
 
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I am a centrist with a slightly loaded world view as I don't think we need to overload our military. (Sorry.)
 
deljzc said:
...a growing guilt-driven ideology that is being fueled by the media, liberal elite and educational elite that somehow "other forms of governance" are just as good (if not better) than our Constitution. That our Constitution should change with the times and that we should adopt more Euro-socialist ideals (including the possibility of changing our Constitution to reflect that).
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I get your drift del, but honestly I haven't come across any of this, as far as liberals or the media 'wanting to change the Constitution'. Not sure I've seen even a reference to such a thing. I certainly would never support such a stupid idea. I agree with you 100% the Constitution is the greatest document ever written. I also agree a lot of countries would do well to incorporate it as their own, or at least use its basic tenets.
 
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Tibs said:
I get your drift del, but honestly I haven't come across any of this, as far as liberals or the media 'wanting to change the Constitution'. Not sure I've seen even a reference to such a thing. I certainly would never support such a stupid idea. I agree with you 100% the Constitution is the greatest document ever written. I also agree a lot of countries would do well to incorporate it as their own, or at least use its basic tenets.
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That is not what some polls are saying when they interview Millennials. You see growing arrogance towards freedom of speech, what freedom of press means (no where does it say press can't be criticised), how we interpret the 2nd amendment. Reverse segregation to create "safe spaces". My brother-in-law thinks we should have a parliamentary system. President isn't elected. He's picked like a Prime Minister of the ruling party. You see growing polls against the electoral college system and just pure "majority" elections.

Those aren't examples enough?

We shouldn't be looking up to Europe/Canada. Europe/Canada should be looking up to us. Somehow the left has that backwards. And that is the schism that is forming in this country. Trump partly played on that schism to get elected. No doubt about that. And I see it strongly represented in the separation/line that seems to often form here in this forum.
 
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Closest Match: Neo-Liberalism
 
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