QBRs - where things stand

[Lloyd]

https://www.espn.com/nfl/qbr

There has been some debate on QBRs and how accurately they represents QB performance, but I'm here to say they DO IN FACT give a good overview of a QB's performance. That being said the top 5 are spot on.

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Lamar JacksonBAL[/td] [td]2[/td]
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Josh AllenBUF[/td] [td]3[/td]
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Joe BurrowCIN[/td] [td]4[/td]
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Jayden DanielsWSH[/td] [td]5[/td]
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Jordan LoveGB[/td]

No argument there. Fields was right at a QBR of 50, which was right about where Cousins was. Russ was also around there with a 51.3 and came in at 22. Rogers rang up a 48 and placed 25th, again spot on. Again, the top 5 deserved their ranking.

If we land Rogers, how will the 25th place QB get us? Not very. Maybe to a Tomlinship: playoff appearance but no hope in winning a game there. Same old.

 

[WindyCitySteel]

PFF > QBR >>>>>>>>>> Passer rating.

PFF grades for last year:

Lamar: 94 (2nd in NFL)
Allen: 91.8
Burroughs: 93.9
Daniels: 89.6
Love: 77.7
Wilson: 77.5
Fields: 71.5
Rodgers: 77.8

SB winner Jalen Hurts: 76.3

 

[Lloyd]

PFF > QBR >>>>>>>>>> Passer rating.

PFF grades for last year:

Lamar: 94 (2nd in NFL)
Allen: 91.8
Burroughs: 93.9
Daniels: 89.6
Love: 77.7
Wilson: 77.5
Fields: 71.5
Rodgers: 77.8

SB winner Jalen Hurts: 76.3

Top 5 look awfully familiar.

 

[Steeltime]

https://www.espn.com/nfl/qbr

There has been some debate on QBRs and how accurately they represents QB performance, but I'm here to say they DO IN FACT give a good overview of a QB's performance. That being said the top 5 are spot on.


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Lamar JacksonBAL[/td] [td]2[/td]
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Josh AllenBUF[/td] [td]3[/td]
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Joe BurrowCIN[/td] [td]4[/td]
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Jayden DanielsWSH[/td] [td]5[/td]
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Jordan LoveGB[/td]
No argument there. Fields was right at a QBR of 50, which was right about where Cousins was. Russ was also around there with a 51.3 and came in at 22. Rogers rang up a 48 and placed 25th, again spot on. Again, the top 5 deserved their ranking.

If we land Rogers, how will the 25th place QB get us? Not very. Maybe to a Tomlinship: playoff appearance but no hope in winning a game there. Same old.

2 of the top 3 in our division. Great idea to empty the QB room three straight seasons and go into the draft with Mason Rudolph as the #1 and expect to compete.

 

[Hypocycloids]

Top 5 look awfully familiar.

I would say Fields and Wilson look more familiar.

 

[bermudasteel]

Can you start 14 more threads today??? I'm looking for original concepts...

 

[Steelmann]

2 of the top 3 in our division. Great idea to empty the QB room three straight seasons and go into the draft with Mason Rudolph as the #1 and expect to compete.

Now,now Steel. We have the highest paid Defense to stop them in their tracks. Thusly we only need to score 17 points a game.

 

[Lloyd]

2 of the top 3 in our division. Great idea to empty the QB room three straight seasons and go into the draft with Mason Rudolph as the #1 and expect to compete.

Could be like he year of the Duck.

 

[madinsomniac]

QBR and PFF nonsense use subjective bullshit in their equations... therefore the most popular QBs get the best ratings.

If Tom Brady and Kenny pickett throw the same pass under the same conditions they dont get the same rating.

Its an attempt to merge scouting with stats... and if you think pro scouting is even a little accurate, I have a stack of old draft mags from people who employ tge same type of and sometimes the exact same analysts that PFF and ESPN do that show they are perpetually wrong..

Objective or at least quantifiable stats are the only real stats... PFF abd QBR are popularity contests

 

[slashsteel]

Can you start 14 more threads today??? I'm looking for original concepts...

Cooch used to do that and then his threads were combined. B b b but it isn’t the same Cooch honest!

Same guy same obsessions.

 

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[Lloyd]

2 of the top 3 in our division. Great idea to empty the QB room three straight seasons and go into the draft with Mason Rudolph as the #1 and expect to compete.

Clown-lin just has no idea what he's doing, isn't that obvious?

 

[Lloyd]

QBR and PFF nonsense use subjective bullshit in their equations... therefore the most popular QBs get the best ratings.

If Tom Brady and Kenny pickett throw the same pass under the same conditions they dont get the same rating.

Its an attempt to merge scouting with stats... and if you think pro scouting is even a little accurate, I have a stack of old draft mags from people who employ tge same type of and sometimes the exact same analysts that PFF and ESPN do that show they are perpetually wrong..

Objective or at least quantifiable stats are the only real stats... PFF abd QBR are popularity contests

Say what you will, but they nailed this one.

 

[WindyCitySteel]

QBR and PFF nonsense use subjective bullshit in their equations... therefore the most popular QBs get the best ratings.

If Tom Brady and Kenny pickett throw the same pass under the same conditions they dont get the same rating.

Its an attempt to merge scouting with stats... and if you think pro scouting is even a little accurate, I have a stack of old draft mags from people who employ tge same type of and sometimes the exact same analysts that PFF and ESPN do that show they are perpetually wrong..

Objective or at least quantifiable stats are the only real stats... PFF abd QBR are popularity contests

Yes, of course they use subjective context, that’s the whole point. You probably thought Mitch Trubisky had a great year in 2018 cuz passer rating, PFF had him accurately ranked 31st in the NFL because they actually watched film, not box scores.

Analysis using only counting stats is fatally flawed.

 

[Lloyd]

Yes, of course they use subjective context, that’s the whole point. You probably thought Mitch Trubisky had a great year in 2018 cuz passer rating, PFF had him accurately ranked 31st in the NFL because they actually watched film, not box scores.

Analysis using only counting stats is fatally flawed.

It just so happens 2024 QBR rankings are dead on.