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Raiders in a pickle

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I can feel for the Raiders as we went through HELL last year on postponements and triple reschedules.






Just another "the rog" story making things up as they go.

Now before all the "I don't care it's the raiders" comments stop, this isn't about that. It's about the high-jacking of team schedules and it happens to favor the browns, similar to the ******* rat-birds last year on our scheduled game.






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Don’t forget Drink we also had our bye week moved to week three because TEN and their problems last year. It is totally obvious that the

Commish is delaying CLE‘s game because their QB1 and QB2 are unavailable. Even though Goodell’s letter to the league says “non availability of position players will not allow games to be postponed”. DEN had to play with a guy who didn’t know the playbook last year. What’s changed?
 
Ike, exactly my point. Cleveland is shown the red carpet similar to ravens last year. I pick these two due to division rivals.

I remeber that sequence of events well from last year. the ONLY team that got the biggest SCREW-JOB was the STEELERS. Can't argue that statement. Even still that is the biggest screw job in the pandemic era.

The sad part is our ownership didn't stand up to the commissioner at all, least ways not publicly. If the rats could threaten strike why couldn't the STEELERS threaten no-show as well. Had the two roles been reversed I don't see the commissioner making consentual acts in Steelers favor.



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What the hell has happened with the Rooney’s?! Dan was instrumental in working with the commissioners over the years to ensure labor peace and league growth. Art II seems to have ZERO league pull or working relationship. Everything has moved to Kraft and Jones. Is this all retaliation from the Steelers being the lone holdout over the last CBA agreement? My biggest concern anymore about my beloved team is that for the first time in my lifetime Dan is no longer here and in charge. Art II may just be the final nail in the Steelers 50 year run of excellence coffin. Does he care and want to win like his dad and grandfather or is he just laughing with his feet on the desk as he lights a cigar with burning $100 bills?
 
This goes back further than Art ll. When Dan didn't stand up for Ben when he was suspended after the sheriff said Ben did not commit any crime just poor judgement. This ******* of a commissioner has **** on our team from day ******* one, and this after it was Dan who even got him the ******* job. we probably have had the most fines and suspensions of any nfl team since this asshat has taken the position of commissioner.

The day Ben retires is the day I quit watching all nfl games until two things happen. Tomlin is gone and Goodell is gone. **** the nfl.
 
warriors42 said:
This goes back further than Art ll. When Dan didn't stand up for Ben when he was suspended after the sheriff said Ben did not commit any crime just poor judgement. This ******* of a commissioner has **** on our team from day ******* one, and this after it was Dan who even got him the ******* job. we probably have had the most fines and suspensions of any nfl team since this asshat has taken the position of commissioner.

The day Ben retires is the day I quit watching all nfl games until two things happen. Tomlin is gone and Goodell is gone. **** the nfl.
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Rumor has it that Dan actually requested the league come down hard on Ben.
 
FatsHolmes said:
Rumor has it that Dan actually requested the league come down hard on Ben.
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Dan was the one who insisted on a suspention and felt it was better coming from the league than from him.

EDIT: The suspention was part of what made BEN take a hard look at himself and determine the kind of man he wanted to be. Ben chose the right path yet has been hounded night and day. Because he was such a good QB many had winner's envy.


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Drink IRON City said:
I can feel for the Raiders as we went through HELL last year on postponements and triple reschedules.






Just another "the rog" story making things up as they go.

Now before all the "I don't care it's the raiders" comments stop, this isn't about that. It's about the high-jacking of team schedules and it happens to favor the browns, similar to the ******* rat-birds last year on our scheduled game.






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And yet, if Carr tests positive on Sunday, they won't postpone the game! The Raiders could literally lose their entire offensive line and will have to play! That's how Goodell Rolls - good for one team, **** the other!
 
Did I miss where someone said **** Goodell? Just in case... **** Goodell with an extra large jumbo package poker.
 
To me, this is yet another black eye for the NFL. There is no ******* way they should have been changing the rules in the middle of the week they definitely shouldn't have moved the games. The teams had enough players to play, period. There is basically zero risk with this new variant for the vaccinated. They get it - most don't know they have it - and they test negative a couple days later. This is pure politics inside the game with Goddell and has nothing to do with fairness or player safety. **** GODDELL!!!
 
I just love how they came out with a hardline stance about how teams would have to forfeit if they had massively outbreaks and then immediately backtracked on it…

You just know some hypocritical bullshit is going to happen like we are going to win a couple games and that last game against the Ravens will mean something and we are going to have an outbreak and then the commish will demand a forfeit… its so ******* subjective …
 
It all comes down to $$$$$. This time if a game is forfeited both teams would lose their game checks. The players association stepped in and said a word or two.
 
YOU play with what you got and if your roster is so depleted you can move the entire PS to roster with no count of PS / rostered. This is ONLY in covid relations.

That would be one way to handle it. If you get past that PS barage then you get STREET FAs.




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Drink IRON City said:
Ike, exactly my point. Cleveland is shown the red carpet similar to ravens last year. I pick these two due to division rivals.

I remeber that sequence of events well from last year. the ONLY team that got the biggest SCREW-JOB was the STEELERS. Can't argue that statement. Even still that is the biggest screw job in the pandemic era.

The sad part is our ownership didn't stand up to the commissioner at all, least ways not publicly. If the rats could threaten strike why couldn't the STEELERS threaten no-show as well. Had the two roles been reversed I don't see the commissioner making consentual acts in Steelers favor.



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Some folks believe Art2 doesn’t care, or bends over constantly in regards to Goodell. Far from it, Art2 has been running the team since the mid 2000s. Dan was Emeritus, but Art2 ran the club and filled his league seat. There will be no other Dan, just like there won’t be another Chief. Both just great humans, however Dan understood the league and how to have a successful franchise. His son definitely doesn’t have the same kind of panache Dan did, but Art2 has his dad’s acumen for league affairs and running a successful franchise.

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What the hell has happened with the Rooney’s?! Dan was instrumental in working with the commissioners over the years to ensure labor peace and league growth. Art II seems to have ZERO league pull or working relationship. Everything has moved to Kraft and Jones. Is this all retaliation from the Steelers being the lone holdout over the last CBA agreement? My biggest concern anymore about my beloved team is that for the first time in my lifetime Dan is no longer here and in charge. Art II may just be the final nail in the Steelers 50 year run of excellence coffin. Does he care and want to win like his dad and grandfather or is he just laughing with his feet on the desk as he lights a cigar with burning $100 bills?
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Art2 is on the executive board of the league. He was one of the those who stepped forward regarding Deflategate and pushed Goodell hard for action as retribution towards how he handled Spygate. Also, Rooney was one of the three owners who lit into Goodell with how he handled the Ray Rice debacle. There has been constant outcry about Art2 “not doing anything“ regarding the BAL postponement. Goodell caved when he heard from the NFLPA that a “Wildcat Strike“ from some of the BAL players was in play unless the game was moved to Wednesday. The league was in the middle of negotiating with the networks on the new TV deal, forfeiting a game would have been a huge negative and Rooney publicly did what was best for the league. But there are some writers who have inside sources, that they won’t name, that Art2 heavily criticized Goodell for his handling because of favoritism towards particular owners and not considering the players themselves. Tomlin and Colbert were privately livid with Harbaugh and Biscotti manipulating the league‘s original plan on postponing the game.

The Chief and Dan never aired dirty laundry publicly and Art2 won’t either. Especially Art2 since he’s an attorney and knows the politics involved. A united league is a brick wall, while leagues like MLB and NBA have weak foundations.
 
Ike Kelly said:
Some folks believe Art2 doesn’t care, or bends over constantly in regards to Goodell. Far from it, Art2 has been running the team since the mid 2000s. Dan was Emeritus, but Art2 ran the club and filled his league seat. There will be no other Dan, just like there won’t be another Chief. Both just great humans, however Dan understood the league and how to have a successful franchise. His son definitely doesn’t have the same kind of panache Dan did, but Art2 has his dad’s acumen for league affairs and running a successful franchise.



Art2 is on the executive board of the league. He was one of the those who stepped forward regarding Deflategate and pushed Goodell hard for action as retribution towards how he handled Spygate. Also, Rooney was one of the three owners who lit into Goodell with how he handled the Ray Rice debacle. There has been constant outcry about Art2 “not doing anything“ regarding the BAL postponement. Goodell caved when he heard from the NFLPA that a “Wildcat Strike“ from some of the BAL players was in play unless the game was moved to Wednesday. The league was in the middle of negotiating with the networks on the new TV deal, forfeiting a game would have been a huge negative and Rooney publicly did what was best for the league. But there are some writers who have inside sources, that they won’t name, that Art2 heavily criticized Goodell for his handling because of favoritism towards particular owners and not considering the players themselves. Tomlin and Colbert were privately livid with Harbaugh and Biscotti manipulating the league‘s original plan on postponing the game.

The Chief and Dan never aired dirty laundry publicly and Art2 won’t either. Especially Art2 since he’s an attorney and knows the politics involved. A united league is a brick wall, while leagues like MLB and NBA have weak foundations.
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Meh.....all the Rooney's care about is the $$$$$. I don't begrudge them for that. Just don't act like they are different than any other owner.
 
None of these games would have, or at least should have, been canceled under any circumstance. Goddell just caved to the mob and the politics just like Biden and other liberal governors and mayors are doing. Look for additional major shutdowns from these loons, including no fans at games again - or, at least, limiting the fans or putting heavy restrictions on them (vaccine cards and masks).
 
They just did a study here in Florida. They found the omicron variant in every water treatment plant they tested in the state. What does that mean? It means the variant is everywhere yet no one is sick enough (if at all) to go to the hospital.
 
Ike Kelly said:
Some folks believe Art2 doesn’t care, or bends over constantly in regards to Goodell. Far from it, Art2 has been running the team since the mid 2000s. Dan was Emeritus, but Art2 ran the club and filled his league seat. There will be no other Dan, just like there won’t be another Chief. Both just great humans, however Dan understood the league and how to have a successful franchise. His son definitely doesn’t have the same kind of panache Dan did, but Art2 has his dad’s acumen for league affairs and running a successful franchise.



Art2 is on the executive board of the league. He was one of the those who stepped forward regarding Deflategate and pushed Goodell hard for action as retribution towards how he handled Spygate. Also, Rooney was one of the three owners who lit into Goodell with how he handled the Ray Rice debacle. There has been constant outcry about Art2 “not doing anything“ regarding the BAL postponement. Goodell caved when he heard from the NFLPA that a “Wildcat Strike“ from some of the BAL players was in play unless the game was moved to Wednesday. The league was in the middle of negotiating with the networks on the new TV deal, forfeiting a game would have been a huge negative and Rooney publicly did what was best for the league. But there are some writers who have inside sources, that they won’t name, that Art2 heavily criticized Goodell for his handling because of favoritism towards particular owners and not considering the players themselves. Tomlin and Colbert were privately livid with Harbaugh and Biscotti manipulating the league‘s original plan on postponing the game.

The Chief and Dan never aired dirty laundry publicly and Art2 won’t either. Especially Art2 since he’s an attorney and knows the politics involved. A united league is a brick wall, while leagues like MLB and NBA have weak foundations.
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Nice write up IKE and like most things, the fan never gets the full story.

I shoot off at times but later realize it always comes back to what is best for the league, both monetary and unity.

I realize Art duces is behind the scenes and he definately has learned from his father, maybe not as intense in childhood but I'm sure he paid attention in adulthood because after all that is where the bacon comes from.

We fans don't have to face the consequences of knee jerk reactions so we always suggest them, good gosh.... the STEELERS couldn't even field a team if the suggestions of some here were followed.

Allthough we may not agree with Art 2's decisions and presentation of them he is managing a multi-billion dollar buisness and being successfull.

We may or may not agree with the Rooney Rule but it is a family legacey and I'm sure they want it to work. Regardless of our current coach rule...... he is losing traction and if he can't get a grip on the situation he will eventually run out his contract and be replaced. Unfortunately it will take more than one season of being below the standard.





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Drink IRON City said:
I shoot off at times but later realize it always comes back to what is best for the league, both monetary and unity.
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Agree DIC. We are fans 🤣. The passion here shows why the team means so much to so many of us. I think and say a lot of things on Sunday’s that are out of pure emotion. Knee jerk reactions are the worse thing any owner could do. I have to remind myself that 30 other franchises would love to have our stability and track record. It’s just scary hoping The Duece can continue the greatness his father established. I’m sure he has incredible pressure on him to succeed. The problem that persists though that isn’t knee jerk is that our post season success has been pretty non existent for nearly a decade. That is not “The Standard” around here.
 
The NFL has turned into American Idle. All pre-scripted from the beginning. The NFL chooses who they want to win and try like hell to get them there. Sure there’s some that overcome but I’d gather more times than not the ones they want get into the playoffs. My hopes are the Steelers with Roethlisberger’s last ride is one of those teams. They sneak into the playoffs and get another super bowl for Roethlisberger. Doubt it looking at a few horrible calls this season. But it would be nice.
 
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