The History of Tomlin's Challenges

[CoolieMan]

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/coaches/TomlMi0/challenges/

since it was asked on Stryker's show

last 5 years 2018-2022 Tomlin has won 5 out of 21 challenges or 23.8%

add in this year and it is 6 out of 24 or 25%

definitely not elite

total career 37 wins n 89 challenges or 41.6% which would be above the line

 

[Drink IRON City]

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/coaches/TomlMi0/challenges/

since it was asked on Stryker's show

last 5 years 2018-2022 Tomlin has won 5 out of 21 challenges or 23.8%

add in this year and it is 6 out of 24 or 25%

definitely not elite

Obviously, he is trending upward with his arrow.

Being right 25% of the time is like 4-blind mice and blind grandma swinging her cane.

I was, as in the past, all for Coach Tomlin getting an assistant for flag challenges along with time outs.


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[CoolieMan]

Obviously, he is trending upward with his arrow.

Being right 25% of the time is like 4-blind mice and blind grandma swinging her cane.

I was, as in the past, all for Coach Tomlin getting an assistant for flag challenges along with time outs.


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well he is 33% this season

 

[Drink IRON City]

well he is 33% this season

Yes SIR and even without a get-back or flag coach in his employ.


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[Djfan]

Yes SIR and even without a get-back or flag coach in his employ.


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Sorry, but I find this to be arrogant bufoonary.

 

[CoolieMan]

Sorry, but I find this to be arrogant bufoonary.

Don't take DIC's posts too seriously

 

[SteelerSask2]

I'm not really exagerating I think they could hire me to be the consultant on this. I am better than their people on first replay look.
No B.S.

 

[xjx]

Tomlin throws the red flag to look cool or tough. Even when he knows it won't be overturned.

 

[Drink IRON City]

Sorry, but I find this to be arrogant bufoonary.

Matt O’Canada is thankful for Bufoonary.!


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[Djfan]

Don't take DIC's posts too seriously

Who?

 

[madinsomniac]

Mike Tomlin always challenges with his heart, not his head.
He throws the flag on close plays he wishes would be overturned without definitive evidence and without thinking about risk/reward…

 

[Lunar]

Challenge is as challenge does.

 

[Djfan]

Challenge is as challenge does.

The challenge is the standard. Or, The standard is the challenge. Maybe - Don't challenge in your fears. Or, Don't live in your challenges. I don't know.

 

[SteelerInLebanon]

Apparently he used to be good at them but I don't remember. "24-for-44 (54.5%) during the first seven seasons of his head-coaching career"

 

[Steeler Pride]

Apparently he used to be good at them but I don't remember. "24-for-44 (54.5%) during the first seven seasons of his head-coaching career"

His explanation for the second one on Monday is head scratching. He said he threw it because he wasn't sure when the receiver had possession. So you wasted a TO late in a game we were trailing because you weren't sure what the outcome would be? The need for that TO far outweighed what he wasn't sure of.

 

[SteelerInLebanon]

His explanation for the second one on Monday is head scratching. He said he threw it because he wasn't sure when the receiver had possession. So you wasted a TO late in a game we were trailing because you weren't sure what the outcome would be? The need for that TO far outweighed what he wasn't sure of.

At first I thought he didn't gain possession until after the first foot came off the ground meaning the second foot was out of bounds but it became clear from the second angle he had possession while the first foot was on the ground making the out of bounds step the third step. I see why he initially thought it but they should have withdrawn the challenge.

 

[Steeler Pride]

At first I thought he didn't gain possession until after the first foot came off the ground meaning the second foot was out of bounds but it became clear from the second angle he had possession while the first foot was on the ground making the out of bounds step the third step. I see why he initially thought it but they should have withdrawn the challenge.

My argument is that if he still had no clue when possession occurred, at that point in the game, it should not have been challenged. To risk a TO, you better KNOW the outcome before you throw that flag.

 

[steelhurt]

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/coaches/TomlMi0/challenges/

since it was asked on Stryker's show

last 5 years 2018-2022 Tomlin has won 5 out of 21 challenges or 23.8%

add in this year and it is 6 out of 24 or 25%

definitely not elite

total career 37 wins n 89 challenges or 41.6% which would be above the line

Maybe Coolie, Coach needs to go back to the lab.
I also thought there was a coach in the booth helping with this. I guess not!

 

[madinsomniac]

My argument is that if he still had no clue when possession occurred, at that point in the game, it should not have been challenged. To risk a TO, you better KNOW the outcome before you throw that flag.

This is exactly right… tomlin better stay away from the poker tables in vegas.. he would lose a mint…

 

[ZonaBurgh]

At first I thought he didn't gain possession until after the first foot came off the ground meaning the second foot was out of bounds but it became clear from the second angle he had possession while the first foot was on the ground making the out of bounds step the third step. I see why he initially thought it but they should have withdrawn the challenge.

My first take was that it was the second foot that was out of bounds, until I saw the replay. Why there isn't someone up in the booth in Tomlin's ear eludes me.

 

[Stainless]

He should adopt George Costanza's do the opposite approach.

 

[Confluence]

The challenge is the standard. Or, The standard is the challenge. Maybe - Don't challenge in your fears. Or, Don't live in your challenges. I don't know.

The challenge standard is substandard.
Along the same lines as clock management, playcalling, player/scheme fit, OL blocking, run D, WR routes, etc.

 

[Fiji Mariner]

Obviously, he is trending upward with his arrow.

Being right 25% of the time is like 4-blind mice and blind grandma swinging her cane.

I was, as in the past, all for Coach Tomlin getting an assistant for flag challenges along with time outs.


Salute the nation

Ya know your offense (and coach) is a joke when the HC chooses to drain the clock before an opponent FG attempt going to halftime cuz he’d rather hand them the ball with only 22 seconds to kill rather than having almost a full minute and attacking

Living in them fears Mikey?
Most teams would want to try to do something crazy like score points, maybe a couple 1sts and match that FG-grab momentum
Ya know them weighty decisions are hard Mike And that studio mic is calling

 

[madinsomniac]

Ya know your offense (and coach) is a joke when the HC chooses to drain the clock before an opponent FG attempt going to halftime cuz he’d rather hand them the ball with only 22 seconds to kill rather than having almost a full minute and attacking

Living in them fears Mikey?
Most teams would want to try to do something crazy like score points, maybe a couple 1sts and match that FG-grab momentum
Ya know them weighty decisions are hard Mike And that studio mic is calling

Tomlin, after an aggressive call goes bad, “ we don’t live in our fears.”

Tomlin, the other 99.9% of the time, when he is playing ultra conservative out of what must be fear… (crickets chirping)