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Confluence

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In case you ever feel the need to feel bad about how the NFL has changed over the years, just read this about the CFL:

Seven teams to go on strike Sunday after CFL, CFLPA unable to reach agreement https://www.tsn.ca/1.1799615.1652584879

Read the details of this minor pro league, with part time salaries and ethnic quotas. What an embarrassment this is:
 
Confluence said:
In case you ever feel the need to feel bad about how the NFL has changed over the years, just read this about the CFL:

Seven teams to go on strike Sunday after CFL, CFLPA unable to reach agreement https://www.tsn.ca/1.1799615.1652584879

Read the details of this minor pro league, with part time salaries and ethnic quotas. What an embarrassment this is:
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Entitled athletes? The CFL seemed to do pretty fine.
 
Your thread title made me think you had a Mini-Canada NORTH of you..................... (just kidding, we love yaz)

I never liked all the behind the scene operations of the NFL and felt they were crooked as can be. It seems maybe that is the case in the CFL to a degree.

I think no matter what the job, the employed thinks there is an endless stream of funds and they don't know how much things cost to stay in operation (way different than employees think. I'm a business owner so I have some insight on this).

Negotiations are just that, get as much as you can under the guise of they can afford it. Sometimes they can and sometimes they are at their limit. Also remember it is the owners risk of losing everything whereas the players have no risk involved financially.

It's a tough world and Both sides need to remember they need each other to succeed.



Salute the nation
 
Drink IRON City said:
Your thread title made me think you had a Mini-Canada NORTH of you..................... (just kidding, we love yaz)

I never liked all the behind the scene operations of the NFL and felt they were crooked as can be. It seems maybe that is the case in the CFL to a degree.

I think no matter what the job, the employed thinks there is an endless stream of funds and they don't know how much things cost to stay in operation (way different than employees think. I'm a business owner so I have some insight on this).

Negotiations are just that, get as much as you can under the guise of they can afford it. Sometimes they can and sometimes they are at their limit. Also remember it is the owners risk of losing everything whereas the players have no risk involved financially.

It's a tough world and Both sides need to remember they need each other to succeed.



Salute the nation
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I don’t know the salary of the average CFL compared to the average NFL player but I am sure they get paid a lot more than we do.


I’m all for workers rights and the like, but when you have millionaires vs billionaires. It’s not a good look regardless who wins the CBA negotiations. At the end of the day, the business is just a sports team that is paid handsomely. It’s a disservice for the fans who pay a lot of money to watch these games. They spend money to keep these guys in all facets of the game employed.
 
I don't attend CFL games. At least not very often. If they moved the start date to mid May and finished mid September or early October it would help. I'm not too sure of the arguments here but if it's about greed, cmon. Would you play professional football for 70k. I wouldn't.
 
SteelerSask2 said:
I don't attend CFL games. At least not very often. If they moved the start date to mid May and finished mid September or early October it would help. I'm not too sure of the arguments here but if it's about greed, cmon. Would you play professional football for 70k. I wouldn't.
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For us teachers, that would be a raise
 
SteelerSask2 said:
I don't attend CFL games. At least not very often. If they moved the start date to mid May and finished mid September or early October it would help. I'm not too sure of the arguments here but if it's about greed, cmon. Would you play professional football for 70k. I wouldn't.
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A game, yes …a season, nope.
 
Ironcitysteelers said:
A game, yes …a season, nope.
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Exactly. Tom Brady will make more in 5 min talking about the NFL then then some of these guys make in a season. And I was at buddies place watching NHL last night and he said he read the league wants a 10 year contract with no increases. I don't know about that. But bottom line the league has a huge problem outside a couple markets.
 
SteelerSask2 said:
Exactly. Tom Brady will make more in 5 min talking about the NFL then then some of these guys make in a season. And I was at buddies place watching NHL last night and he said he read the league wants a 10 year contract with no increases. I don't know about that. But bottom line the league has a huge problem outside a couple markets.
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I wouldn’t risk my body in a brutal fashion sans football for anything less than 150k so I see what you mean
 
MTC said:
I wouldn’t risk my body in a brutal fashion sans football for anything less than 150k so I see what you mean
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And there are plenty of players who make 150 k. But there are like 6 or 7 QBs who make even league min in the NFL and in most cases its more lucrative to be on an NFL practice squad then a CFL starter. And in what I just read they were talking about league min rising to $76 000 by 2028. That's 6000 dollars in 6 years. The cost of housing in places like Toronto and Vancouver isn't exactly cheap neither.
 
SteelerSask2 said:
And there are plenty of players who make 150 k. But there are like 6 or 7 QBs who make even league min in the NFL and in most cases its more lucrative to be on an NFL practice squad then a CFL starter. And in what I just read they were talking about league min rising to $76 000 by 2028. That's 6000 dollars in 6 years. The cost of housing in places like Toronto and Vancouver isn't exactly cheap neither.
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And let's not forget all of those wonderful taxes. It's pretty much a job you need a side job to go along with it. Like the old NFL days.
 
Steelr4evr said:
And let's not forget all of those wonderful taxes. It's pretty much a job you need a side job to go along with it. Like the old NFL days.
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When I was a kid the CFL was like the NFL to us because we didn't have all of this. We got two or three games in the morning and one in the afternoon and Monday Night. That's when we got cable. And obviously the leagues were not on par but the gap especially financially wasn't anywhere near as large. I bet those top players in the 80's CFL were making 50k. That's like 40 years ago.
 
What leverage do the players have?

Ethnic quotas? Good luck fulfilling the Asian one.
 
SteelerSask2 said:
I don't attend CFL games. At least not very often. If they moved the start date to mid May and finished mid September or early October it would help. I'm not too sure of the arguments here but if it's about greed, cmon. Would you play professional football for 70k. I wouldn't.
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Why not? You wouldn’t play D1 football if you couldn’t get a NIL deal? You’re only a young adult for 15 years.
 
Troglodyte said:
The majority of NFL players play at or near the league minimum, you’d advise against that?
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The NFL minimum salary was $660,000 last year, $705,000 this year. Nobody advises against playing for that type of money. The discussion involves risking your health for $70,000. You can earn that much and more in dozens of professions that have vastly less risk of harm.
 
Steeltime said:
The NFL minimum salary was $660,000 last year, $705,000 this year. Nobody advises against playing for that type of money. The discussion involves risking your health for $70,000. You can earn that much and more in dozens of professions that have vastly less risk of harm.
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$660,000 I would play football for. Attempt a career at that. $70,000 no thank you. The risk and post retirement health issues isn’t worth it
 
I'd play for free !!!!

WAIT


I meant $700,000.00 provided Lindsey and Paris were my scratch girls.................................................



Salute the nation
 
MTC said:
$660,000 I would play football for. Attempt a career at that. $70,000 no thank you. The risk and post retirement health issues isn’t worth it
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Again, so the vast majority of D1 football players should stop playing?
 
Change the word Canadian to "caucasian" or "hispanic" and then apply this to any professional league:


A club can choose one American player (non-quarterback), who has been in the league for at least four years or played with the same team for at least three years, who would be considered a Nationalized American.

_ The Nationalized American would count as a National on the roster, joining 20 or 21 Canadians Hispanics who also count as Nationals on the roster.

_ Each roster would have a minimum of seven National starters. This would include at least six Canadian Hispanic players. The seventh starter could be either the Nationalized American or an additional Canadian Hispanic.

_ The roster would also include three quarterbacks of any nationality, 19 Americans and up to two Global players.

_ A starting Canadian quarterback would count as a National (Canadian Hispanic).

_ These roster changes would kick in as of 2023.


While the CFL has always been embarrassingly Canadian bush league, the idea of ethnic quotas ought to be offensive, especially .
If the CFL wants Canadian players to be better football players, it has had decades to help this, but relies on import restrictions to produce a lower quality product only slightly popular because their is nothing else to do in Winterpeg or Reginatoon.
Imagine if the NHL mandated that each team had a minimum number of Canadians?
 
Canada is a nationality. It is made up of many ethnicity. And we have thriving youth, high school, University football. Many leagues in many countries which are not top of the food chain leagues in hockey, soccer and basketball have national player quotas. The CFL is a second tier league.it is more than 100 years old. XFL and USFL are bush.
I coach football. I wouldn't recommend beyond high school. But if you want an experience and cheaper education and play college University. I make more than 70 thousand. I definitely wouldn't recommend playing pro football for that. A collegue of mine was going to and opted for a totally different job from our profession and football. I agreed with his choice.
 
Troglodyte said:
Again, so the vast majority of D1 football players should stop playing?
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The CFL is a job. College football although it is a full time gig is not considered a job but a glorified extra curricular. Pro ball is supposed to be a career. Or at least make as much as you can before the league finds no use of you
 
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