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World War 3 Could Start This Month: 350,000 Soldiers In Saudi Arabia Stand Ready To Invade Syria
By Michael Snyder, on February 14th, 2016

350,000 soldiers, 20,000 tanks, 2,450 warplanes and 460 military helicopters are massing in northern Saudi Arabia for a military exercise that is being called “Northern Thunder”. According to the official announcement, forces are being contributed by Saudi Arabia, the United Arab Emirates, Egypt, Jordan, Bahrain, Sudan, Kuwait, Morocco, Pakistan, Tunisia, Oman, Qatar, Malaysia and several other nations. This exercise will reportedly last for 18 days, and during that time the airspace over northern Saudi Arabia will be closed to air traffic. This will be the largest military exercise in the history of the region, and it comes amid rumors that Saudi Arabia and Turkey are preparing for a massive ground invasion of Syria.

If you were going to gather forces for an invasion, this is precisely how you would do it. Governments never come out and publicly admit that forces are moving into position for an invasion ahead of time, so “military exercises” are a common excuse that gets used for this sort of thing.

If these exercises are actually being used as an excuse to mass forces near the northern Saudi border, then we should expect an invasion to begin within the next couple of weeks. If it happens, we should expect to see the Saudi coalition storm through western Iraq and into Syria from the south, and it is likely that Turkey will come in from the north.

The goal would be to take out the Assad regime before Russia, Iran and Hezbollah could react. For the past couple of years, Saudi Arabia, Turkey and their allies have been funding the Sunni insurgency in Syria, and they were counting on those insurgents to be able to take down the Assad regime by themselves.

You see, the truth is that ISIS was never supposed to lose in Syria. Saudi Arabia and her allies have been funneling massive amounts of money to ISIS, and hundreds of millions of dollars of ISIS oil has been shipped into Turkey where it is sold to the rest of the world.

The major Sunni nations wanted ISIS and the other Sunni insurgent groups to take down Assad. In the aftermath, Saudi Arabia and her allies intended to transform Syria into a full-blown Sunni nation.

But then Russia, Iran and Hezbollah stepped forward to assist the Assad regime. Russian air support completely turned the tide of the war, and now the Sunni insurgents are on the brink of losing.

Aleppo was once the largest city in Syria, and Sunni insurgents have controlled it since 2012. But now relentless Russian airstrikes have made it possible for Syrian, Iranian and Hezbollah ground forces to surround the city, and it is about to fall back into the hands of the Syrian government.

If this happens, the war will essentially be over.

Saudi Arabia, Turkey and their allies have invested massive amounts of time, money and effort into overthrowing Assad, and they aren’t about to walk away now.

If the war was to end right at this moment, a weakened Assad regime would remain in power, and Iran and Hezbollah would be the dominant powers in the country for years to come. And once Assad died, it would be inevitable that Iran and Hezbollah would attempt to transform Syria into a full-blown Shiite nation. This is something that Saudi Arabia and Turkey want to avoid at all costs.

So they are actually considering what was once absolutely unthinkable – a massive ground invasion of Syria.

But if Saudi Arabia, Turkey and their allies go in, they run the risk of a full-blown war with Russia, Iran and Hezbollah. Just consider some of the comments that we have seen in recent days…

Reacting to a potential troop deployment, Syrian Foreign Minister Walid al-Muallem said Saturday, “Let no one think they can attack Syria or violate its sovereignty because I assure you any aggressor will return to their country in a wooden coffin.”

Pavel Krasheninnikov, a deputy of Russia’s State Duma, has warned Saudi Arabia that any military ground operation in Syria without Damascus’ consent would amount to a declaration of war, Press TV reported.

We could literally be looking at the spark that sets off World War 3. I can’t believe that Saudi Arabia and Turkey are actually considering this.

And if it does happen, you can rest assured that Barack Obama gave them the green light to go in.

Unfortunately, it sounds like the decision may have already been made. Just consider what Turkish Foreign Minister Mevlut Cavusoglu is saying…

“If we have such a strategy, then Turkey and Saudi Arabia may launch a ground operation,” he added, fueling concerns that a foreign troop invasion may soon further complicate the already turbulent situation in the war-torn country.

Earlier, Saudi Arabia, Bahrain and the UAE voiced their readiness to contribute troops for a ground operation in Syria on the condition that the US would lead the intervention. Damascus and its key regional ally, Iran, warned that such a foreign force would face strong resistance.

And in addition to all of the forces massing in northern Saudi Arabia, the London Independent is reporting that the Saudis have sent troops and aircraft to a military base in Turkey…

Saudi Arabia is sending troops and fighter jets to Turkey’s Incirlik military base ahead of a possible ground invasion of Syria.

The Turkish foreign minister, Mevlut Cavusoglu, confirmed the deployment in a statement to the Yeni Şafak newspaper on Saturday, days before a temporary ceasefire is due to come into force.

There are reports that Saudi officials are saying that the decision to send in ground troops is “irreversible”, and Reuters is reporting that the Syrian government claims that some Turkish troops have already entered the country…

The Syrian government says Turkish forces were believed to be among 100 gunmen it said entered Syria on Saturday accompanied by 12 pick-up trucks mounted with heavy machine guns, in an ongoing supply operation to insurgents fighting Damascus.

“The operation of supplying ammunition and weapons is continuing via the Bab al-Salama crossing to the Syrian area of Azaz,” the Syrian foreign ministry said in a letter to the U.N. Security Council published by state news agency SANA.

Of course the Turkish government is not going to confirm that report, but what we do know is that Turkey is shelling Kurdish forces on the Syrian side of the border. The funny thing is that these Kurdish forces are actually being supported and supplied by the U.S. government.

So the Turks are not supposed to be doing this, but according to Reuters they have been doing it for two days in a row anyway…

The Turkish army shelled positions held by Kurdish-backed militia in northern Syria for a second day on Sunday, killing two fighters, the Syrian Observatory for Human Rights monitoring group said.

Turkey on Saturday demanded the powerful Syrian Kurdish YPG militia withdraw from areas that it had captured in the northern Aleppo region in recent days from insurgents in Syria, including the Menagh air base. The shelling has targeted those areas.

The hostility between Turkey and the Kurds goes back a long, long way. The Syrian Kurds are not threatening Turkey in any way right now, but Turkey is using the instability in the region as an excuse to lob artillery shells at a hated enemy. It is an act of naked aggression that the Obama administration should be loudly denouncing.

In addition, it is being reported that Syrian government forces have also been getting shelled by the Turkish military…

Anatolia news agency reported that the Turkish military hit Syrian government forces on Saturday, adding that the shelling had been in response to fire inflicted on a Turkish military guard post in Turkey’s southern Hatay region.

Turkish artillery targeted Syrian forces again late on Saturday, according to a military source quoted by RIA Novosti. The attack targeted the town of Deir Jamal in the Aleppo Governorate.

Needless to say, the Russians are quite alarmed by all of this.

In fact, Russian Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev is warning about what could happen if things spiral out of control…

In the wake of Saudi Arabia’s proposal to send in ground troops on Thursday, the Russian Prime Minister claimed the move could spark a new world war.

“A ground operation draws everyone taking part in it into a war,” he told the Handelsblatt newspaper.

“The Americans and our Arab partners must consider whether or not they want a permanent war.”

If Saudi Arabia, Turkey and their allies launch an invasion and make a mad dash to take out the Assad regime in Damascus, the Russians will inevitably respond.

And if tactical nuclear weapons are necessary to keep the invading forces out of Damascus, the Russians will not be shy about using them.

I don’t know if I have ever seen a scenario which was more likely to initiate World War 3 than the one that we are watching unfold right now.

So what has the mainstream media been saying about all of this?

Incredibly, they have been almost entirely silent. When he went looking for news about these events, James Bailey could find almost nothing on either Fox News or CNN…
 
Buuuuuuuuuuuuushhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
As long as it doesn't directly involve the US, or China, let them have at it.
 
But if Saudi Arabia, Turkey and their allies go in, they run the risk of a full-blown war with Russia, Iran and Hezbollah.
But the right-wingers on this board spent the better part of the past six months convincing us the Russians were the good guys...

...Saudi Arabia, Turkey and their allies...
Gulp, that's us.
 
But the right-wingers on this board spent the better part of the past six months convincing us the Russians were the good guys...


Gulp, that's us.

Not the good guys Per Se but actually attacking Daesh.
 
Not the good guys Per Se but actually attacking Daesh.

That's what Putin wanted you to believe, and you - along with others on the far right - bought into it hook, line and sinker. From the beginning Russia's goal has been none other than to prop up Assad and put its foot down in the ME in firm opposition to the US and the West. Slowly but surely I hope more and more conservatives come to understand what is actually happening. I agree with the article that the situation is fluid and increasingly dangerous.
 
Thank God we have our great foreign policy leader in Barack Obama to guide us through this..... not.
 
That's what Putin wanted you to believe, and you - along with others on the far right - bought into it hook, line and sinker. From the beginning Russia's goal has been none other than to prop up Assad and put its foot down in the ME in firm opposition to the US and the West. Slowly but surely I hope more and more conservatives come to understand what is actually happening. I agree with the article that the situation is fluid and increasingly dangerous.

Actually I said about 15 times in several different threads that of course Putin is trying to prop up Assad because Syria has been a Russian client state for about 70 years. The Russians understand that stable countries in the region must be ruled by dictators because the people have no cultural background or ability in self rule.
 
Actually I said about 15 times in several different threads that of course Putin is trying to prop up Assad because Syria has been a Russian client state for about 70 years. The Russians understand that stable countries in the region must be ruled by dictators because the people have no cultural background or ability in self rule.
Exactly. We should have supported Saddam and Ghaddafi, as well. They are better than the alternative, which is Sunni Islamism.And let's face it, this is nothing more than a continuation of the 1400 year old sectarian feud........and the regional dominance game between Iran and the Saudis.
 
Actually I said about 15 times in several different threads that of course Putin is trying to prop up Assad because Syria has been a Russian client state for about 70 years. The Russians understand that stable countries in the region must be ruled by dictators because the people have no cultural background or ability in self rule.

And I've always said that we should drill for our own oil wherever it is found and then we could tell the middle east to piss off.
 
And I've always said that we should drill for our own oil wherever it is found and then we could tell the middle east to piss off.

Oh i would love to see that. I'd love to see us tell OPEC to pound sand.
 
Obama is a complete disaster - Impeach!


Arab States Are Seeking Nuclear Weapons To Counter Iran, Israel Warns

Israel has picked up signs of the beginning of a nuclear arms race in the Middle East as Arab states seek nuclear weapons to counter Iran, the Israeli defence minister has warned.

Moshe Ya'alon said Sunni Arab nations were not reassured by last year's nuclear deal between Iran and six world powers and were making their own preparations for nuclear weapons.

"We see signs that countries in the Arab world are preparing to acquire nuclear weapons, that they are not willing to sit quietly with Iran on brink of a nuclear or atomic bomb," Mr Ya'alon said.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...ear-weapons-to-counter-Iran-Israel-warns.html
 
blow up a few oil fields......

When oil fields attack...


Saudi Arabia Embarks On Massive Military Drill With 2,500 Warplanes And 20,000 Tanks

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Saudi Arabia has commenced a massive military drill in which 20 nations are participating. The move comes amid ongoing deadly conflicts in the Middle East.

More than 2,500 warplanes, 20,000 tanks and 450 helicopters will be part of the exercise. Riyadh has billed the manoeuvre as "the largest and most important" drill ever staged in the region.

Up to 350,000 troops from various Gulf nations, and other allies such as Pakistan, Jordan, Chad and Sudan will take part in the drill, the Saudi Press Agency said. The exercises would involve ground, naval and air forces personnel.

http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/saudi-arab...ary-drill-2500-warplanes-20000-tanks-1543841?

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Drill?

Send them in!
 
We should just back the **** out of there now. We tried to help, did to some degree but politics got in the way of finishing. Now it's the middle ******* ages again there but with 21st century kingdoms trying to help different tribes. **** em all.
 
We should just back the **** out of there now. We tried to help, did to some degree but politics got in the way of finishing. Now it's the middle ******* ages again there but with 21st century kingdoms trying to help different tribes. **** em all.

Sit back. ..and keep selling them weapons. Get some of our petrodollars back. Bring down the Burj Khalifa too.
 
Was only a matter of time...

Turkey calls on US to join in ground offensive in Syria to defeat Isis and end civil war
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...o-defeat-isis-and-end-civil-war-a6876706.html

Turkey has called on the US and other members of the international coalition in Syria to join in a ground offensive and "stop this war".

Speaking amid speculation that Turkey was preparing troops to enter Syria from the north over the weekend, Ankara said it refused to take action on its own.

But an official briefing reporters in Istanbul said "we want a ground operation", adding that "if there is a consensus, Turkey will take part".

"Turkey is not going to have a unilateral ground operation. We are asking coalition partners that there should be a ground operation. We are discussing this with allies.

"Without a ground operation, it is impossible to stop this war," he added.

Saudi Arabia said on Monday that it too was "very serious" about sending ground troops into Syria to remove President Bashar al-Assad.

The Saudi foreign minister, Adel al-Jubeir, said the country was waiting to see if a ceasefire brokered by the US and Russia would prove successful.
 
Was only a matter of time...

Turkey calls on US to join in ground offensive in Syria to defeat Isis and end civil war
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...o-defeat-isis-and-end-civil-war-a6876706.html

Turkey has called on the US and other members of the international coalition in Syria to join in a ground offensive and "stop this war".

Speaking amid speculation that Turkey was preparing troops to enter Syria from the north over the weekend, Ankara said it refused to take action on its own.

But an official briefing reporters in Istanbul said "we want a ground operation", adding that "if there is a consensus, Turkey will take part".

"Turkey is not going to have a unilateral ground operation. We are asking coalition partners that there should be a ground operation. We are discussing this with allies.

"Without a ground operation, it is impossible to stop this war," he added.

Saudi Arabia said on Monday that it too was "very serious" about sending ground troops into Syria to remove President Bashar al-Assad.

The Saudi foreign minister, Adel al-Jubeir, said the country was waiting to see if a ceasefire brokered by the US and Russia would prove successful.

Don't worry, until January, we are protected. President Lack of Balls ain't sending troops anywhere.
 
**** Turkey - arm the Kurds, give them their own country and let them wipe them out ISIS, they are the only ones who are doing it on the ground.
 
As long as it doesn't directly involve the US, or China, let them have at it.

The trouble is Russia and China could be making a lot of money on the middle east. China needs their oil.

The world these days it rather connected, and when money is at stake, nations think differently.

An incident between Russia, China, or the USA even by mistake could spark something. And Iran getting a nuclear weapon in my opinion will start something.

If neither of these things happen in 20 years, rising temperatures and over population can make things really bad.

Thank god for the Atlantic ocean.
 
**** Turkey - arm the Kurds, give them their own country and let them wipe them out ISIS, they are the only ones who are doing it on the ground.

Should have backed the Kurds in 1992 ... would have saved sooooo much trouble.
 
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