I read today about the Steelers trading up for Ridder. C'mon. He is a second round talent. I wouldn't be terribly disappointed I they made a minor move in the second cause he isn't much worse than the first round guys. But really. If I'm moving up it'd for someone I KNOW will change the team. Jordan Davis changes the team. He probably gives them the best defense in the league in my opinion. But I wouldn't trade up for him either. Take the two best players available in those positions of need at 1.20 and 2.20. Do not trade up for one of these Qs. It's just not worth it.
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I don't see them trading up this year unless someone they foam over is available in the I dunno 14 area. Even then I would hope it wouldn't be a QB. With one less pick in this class and many needs hopefully if they want to move it is down.
All of these articles coming out are nothing but throwing **** on the wall and seeing what sticks. One of these writers has to be right and after the draft it will
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There is only 1 QB in this draft that you can justify trading up and that's Willis. He does have plus arm talent and excellent mobility. The upside is huge. He also has huge bust potential but at least he's worth rolling the dice.
I don;t even think the steelers should draft a QB in any round in this draft. I can't see taking at QB in rd 1 ahead of a CB, S, WR or OL. MAYBE round 2 if Corral or Ridder or Pickett are there. That's still a maybe because i'd still rather go CB, S, WR, or OL in Rd 2. Other than Willis, Pickett, Corral and Ridder, i don't even want another QB from this class in any round. It's just a wasted pick.
Trubisky and even Rudolph are as good or better prospects than every QB aside from Willis in this draft class. I bet that Rudolph would be QB 2 in this draft based on his college film. People forget how good Rudolph was at Ok State. There were 5 QBs drafted in RD 1 that year. Baker, Darnold, Allen, Rosen, and Jackson. Rudolph would have been a 1st rounder in most draft classes including this year's
I don;t even think the steelers should draft a QB in any round in this draft. I can't see taking at QB in rd 1 ahead of a CB, S, WR or OL. MAYBE round 2 if Corral or Ridder or Pickett are there. That's still a maybe because i'd still rather go CB, S, WR, or OL in Rd 2. Other than Willis, Pickett, Corral and Ridder, i don't even want another QB from this class in any round. It's just a wasted pick.
Trubisky and even Rudolph are as good or better prospects than every QB aside from Willis in this draft class. I bet that Rudolph would be QB 2 in this draft based on his college film. People forget how good Rudolph was at Ok State. There were 5 QBs drafted in RD 1 that year. Baker, Darnold, Allen, Rosen, and Jackson. Rudolph would have been a 1st rounder in most draft classes including this year's
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If the Steelers should trade in any round it will be in round 2. Looking at these mock drafts, it could break in a real bad way for the Steelers in the second.
As far as the mock drafts go, writers need to put out content and people love to consume mocks. It'd be boring if they make the same picks for each team in each version of their mocks. Gotta change it up and where the QBs go is always a big hit with readers.
As far as the mock drafts go, writers need to put out content and people love to consume mocks. It'd be boring if they make the same picks for each team in each version of their mocks. Gotta change it up and where the QBs go is always a big hit with readers.
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I've been thinking the same. I really think the steelers need to go WR and DB in the first 2 rounds. They lack depth and need a playmaker ar each spot. In Rd 1, it should be easy to get an immediate impact player at WR, CB or S. The problem is when it gets to Rd 2, all of the WRs and DBs i like are gone. The next tier of guys are more like 3rd rounders.
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Then you get a DL or OT in round 2
In regards to Willis, you left out that his accuracy is absolutely terrible. All the other QBs have equal if not better mobility. Arm strength means nothing if the guy can't place it where it needs to be. Not to mention, he played terrible competition and didn't even put up that great of numbers. Willis will undoubtably be a bust.
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In the mocks I've been doing, i am usually going OL in rd 2. Seems the best value. But i have a feeling that round 1 will have a ton of OL and DL off the board. WR will be interesting. It's deep so there are scenarios where teams wait on WR, assuming that they can get one later. There are also scenarios where a few go off the board early and it starts a run on them.
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That's true and he does have bust potential. Accuracy always gets overlooked come draft time. Lamar Jackson airmails tons of balls and nobody cares because he also makes plays.
Josh Allen may be helping WIllis too. Allen had some accuracy issues and Daboll coached him up on mechanics and it improved a ton. Few QBs improve their accuracy in a major way, but lots of coaches think they are the ones who can coach them up.
On the plus side, Daboll also coached up Trubisky.
My gut tells me Willis will not pan out, but I'd rather swing for the fences on a prospect like that then draft a safe choice and win 9 games per year. I'd rather draft a bust and move on in a couple years than waste 5 years on a guy in the Andy Dalton range.
I agree. I'm really afraid of them moving up for him. I wouldn't even be comfortable if he fell to them much less giving up more capital for him.
I guess the question comes down to how the Steelers see their roster, and they may see it differently than us. The Steelers will lie to themselves, and then believe their own lies. How the hell else can you explain the OL fiasco with an old QB last year? The problem is not with the players, it is with the decision makers who put them in positions in which failure was too likely.
So while I agree with Sask about Davis, I can see the Steeler brass thinking, "well, we have Alualu and Tuitt coming back, we'll be good there and can compete." Maybe they'll be right and the fact is they are more often than not. But after the OL mess of last year...
So while I agree with Sask about Davis, I can see the Steeler brass thinking, "well, we have Alualu and Tuitt coming back, we'll be good there and can compete." Maybe they'll be right and the fact is they are more often than not. But after the OL mess of last year...
Hoping all the QB attention is a smoke screen and they have their eye on other positions where there’s great value, while improving the team overall?
Colbert has been the GM so long, he understands the position… can’t imagine he’d want his retiring predecessor to choose the most important position on the field on the way out the door, if he were the replacement for a HOF GM.
He’s announced he’s stepping away as GM. He grabbed a very solid stop-gap at QB, so he should then make the team better in every way except, unless a generational talent were coming out, allow his replacement to determine who his potential franchise QB will be in subsequent draft or free agency.
Colbert has been the GM so long, he understands the position… can’t imagine he’d want his retiring predecessor to choose the most important position on the field on the way out the door, if he were the replacement for a HOF GM.
He’s announced he’s stepping away as GM. He grabbed a very solid stop-gap at QB, so he should then make the team better in every way except, unless a generational talent were coming out, allow his replacement to determine who his potential franchise QB will be in subsequent draft or free agency.
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Both of those guys haven't played in a year. Tuitt even longer. Alualu is 35. They are not good at that position. They have the opportunity to have Davis and possibly that Honey Badger guy as a safety. They need insurance on that DL. Last year was horrific against the run. They paid for it.
They will have what is needed most to win a superbowl and that's a championship defense. Invest the rest on the OL.
And the elephant in the room. Coaching and player development. Until they get some real teachers and tacticians it all may be for not.
CB/S thins out after 50, but the WR pool is pretty deep. Metchie III is likely there, or Pickens, or Watson. The S position definitely gets spotty after Pitre. Bolden of Miami and Anderson from Toledo are the two I hope are available for the round 6 comp pick if they go that direction. Both are big, physical strong safeties, quick, able to blitz, take on TE's, stay in the box on running plays.
Yeah, that sums up the question very well. I don't expect the Steelers brass to throw their hands in the air and say, "Wow, we @#$%ed up the OL in 2021," but I just do not see they actually admit making a mistake in trying to replace four starters with two rookies, a 2nd year guy, and a cast-off.
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It will be more like ONE "i told you so" and the rest will be completely silence but don't fret............... It will take more than being ridiculously wrong to shut the fuckelers up.
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My fear I'd the team has gone from making smart moves to contend to doing what the media expects to try to appear they will contend. Gonna say this right now. As soon as the draft happens the media will **** all over this qb class and laugh at whatever move the Steelers make to get a q they have been saying they MUST take for the last three months.
Colbert also said that the most important aspect in evaluating a QB is accuracy. If he truly meant that, then the first pick won't be reaching for a QB.
Agreed. At 1/20 they can literally fill any position need right now in the draft. There will be a few good WRs/DB/OL/LB/DL available at this spot. Ridder is 2nd round talent and has the potential to be a pretty solid starting QB with some good coaching around him. He’s turning out to be my favorite QB in the draft.
Totally agree Shane. If they took BPA at a position of need and got Ridder in 2 (even for a minor trade up) I think it's a good draft.
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Cross, Cook in the 3rd?
Or a SS sitting there like an apple on a tree.
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Trade a round 2, 3, or 4 round pick in 2022 for a 2023 pick, package your picks together to move up to get the franchise QB next year, these 2022 QBs would be day 2 developmental dudes most years