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WTF? U.S. gifts $8 billion to Ukraine for border protection

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The U.S. will be providing Ukraine with an additional $8 billion to bolster its border guard capabilities, the White House announced Friday.

Vice President Joe Biden announced Friday that the U.S. will provide approximately $8 billion to help bolster Ukraine's State Border Guard Service. Biden shared the news with Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko during a phone call on Friday.

"This additional assistance," the White House said, "includes engineering equipment for improving infrastructure along Ukraine's borders, transport and patrol vehicles, surveillance equipment to extend the visual range of border security patrols, and small boats to conduct maritime patrol and interdiction operations."

http://www.upi.com/Top_News/World-N...aine-for-border-protection/2781406913000/?d=n

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But we don't need no fence
 

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It's just funny money anways
 

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It's just funny money anways

that's bullshit


I'd say WE could use that $8 BILLION to improve our own infrastructure that's falling apart.

Why the **** isn't NATO paying for this?
 

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that's bullshit


I'd say WE could use that $8 BILLION to improve our own infrastructure that's falling apart.

Why the **** isn't NATO paying for this?

Some of us demand healthcare.

Thanks, y'all.

Plus $8 billion probably isn't enough for a great wall, just a kinda good one.
 
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I clicked that link. $8 Million not Billion. If the article is accurate at least.
 

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How wonderful that our elected officials can decide that its a great idea to send money to Ukraine....don't give a thought to our southern border crisis. Oh..no. we won't need money for that.
 

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Who you thjnk going to build that fence
 

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that's bullshit


I'd say WE could use that $8 BILLION to improve our own infrastructure that's falling apart.

Why the **** isn't NATO paying for this?

Because everyone not called America or the Netherlands is hedging their bets.
 

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still, $8 million would make a nice chain link electric barbed wire fence
 

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I clicked that link. $8 Million not Billion. If the article is accurate at least.


I swear it said 8 Billion - and I wasn't even drunk at the time

oh well, nevermind
 

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Is not all spending required to be approved by the House of Representatives? Oh wait, that's what the Constitution says, silly me.....
 

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The mere fact that we are paying for someone else's border security, when our own is a security risk, is blatant evidence that our Gov't cares more about their political careers than the safety of it's citizens. There is one word to describe this behavior......treason.
 

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OK - the mods can take down this thread - the drama is gone with the misprint
 

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Its not working BO......Here comes the Red army


KIEV (Reuters) - Ukraine accused Russia on Thursday of mounting an invasion in the southeast of the country in support of pro-Moscow separatist rebels.

Ukraine's security and defense council said the border town of Novoazovsk and other parts of Ukraine's south-east had fallen under the control of Russian forces who together with rebels were staging a counter-offensive.

"A counter-offensive by Russian troops and separatist units is continuing in south-east Ukraine," the council said in a post on Twitter.

President Petro Poroshenko, in a statement explaining his decision to cancel a visit to Turkey, said: "An invasion of Russian forces has taken place."

Russia denies intervening in Ukraine by arming the rebels or sending soldiers across the border. The defense ministry declined to comment on reports of Russian tanks in Novoazovsk.

“The Russian authorities clearly said many times there are no regular Russian troops there. Russia is not taking part in this armed conflict,” said a Russian diplomatic source.

The latest escalation in the five-month crisis came only two days after the presidents of the two countries held their first talks in more than two months and agreed to work towards launching a peace process.

Ukrainian Prime Minister Arseny Yatseniuk appealed to the United States, European Union and G7 countries "to freeze Russian assets and finances until Russia withdraws armed forces, equipment and agents".

Rebel advances this week have opened a new front in the conflict just as Ukraine's army appeared to have gained the upper hand, virtually encircling the separatists in their main strongholds of Donetsk and Luhansk.

Anton Gerashchenko, an adviser to Ukrainian Interior Minister Arsen Avakov, said on Facebook: "The invasion of Putin’s regular Russian army of Ukraine is now an established fact!"

French President Francois Hollande said it would be "intolerable and unacceptable" if it was proved true that Russian troops had entered Ukrainian territory.

TANKS IN NOVOAZOVSK

The loss of Novoazovsk is a blow to government forces since it leaves vulnerable the big port city of Mariupol, further west along the coast.

A resident who would only give his first name of Mykola, said: "The authorities in the town are DNR (rebel Donetsk People's Republic) ones. Tanks are moving here and there out on the highway, but there is no fighting going on for the town."

A military source said the separatist forces had also taken Savur-Mohyla, a hill east of the city of Donetsk which gives strategic command over large areas of the territory.

Alexander Zakharchenko, prime minister of the self-proclaimed Donetsk People's Republic, told Reuters in an interview that the rebel forces had gained a foothold on the Azov Sea and their objective was to fight their way to Mariupol.

He said there were about 3,000 Russian volunteers serving in the rebel ranks.

The latest developments, and the capture by Ukraine this week of 11 Russian soldiers on its territory, have strained the credibility of Russia's denials that it is sending weapons and soldiers to help the separatists. Russia said the first group of 10 soldiers had probably crossed the border by mistake.

The crisis has prompted Western governments to impose sanctions on Moscow, which has responded in kind, and fanned tensions with NATO to levels not seen since the Cold War.

In a tweet, the U.S. ambassador to Kiev, Geoffrey Pyatt, said: "Russian supplied tanks, armored vehicles, artillery and multiple rocket launchers have been insufficient to defeat Ukraine' armed forces. So now an increasing number of Russian troops are intervening directly in fighting on Ukrainian territory.

"Russia has also sent its newest air defense systems including the SA-22 into eastern Ukraine & is now directly involved in the fighting," he said.

On financial markets, Ukrainian credit default swaps, a form of insurance against the government failing to pay its debt, surged to new three-month highs and dollar bonds fell.

Russia's dollar-denominated RTS share index was down 2.4 percent and the rouble-based MICEX fell 2.1 percent. The rouble also weakened, and Russian debt insurance costs rose to two-week highs.

Fighting in the east erupted in April, a month after Russia annexed Ukraine's Crimean peninsula in response to the toppling of a pro-Moscow president in Kiev.

A United Nations report this week said more than 2,200 people have been killed, not including the 298 who died when a Malaysian airliner was shot down over rebel-held territory in July.

(Additional reporting by Vladimir Soldatkin, Thomas Grove; Writing by Mark Trevelyan; editing by Anna Willard and Giles Elgood)
 

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You can't expect our government to sit idly by while a country has unsecured borders. That would just be crazy.
 

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I clicked that link. $8 Million not Billion. If the article is accurate at least.
someone left out a zero or two. or three. or four. or more.
no worries. bomma has a pen.
 

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http://mobile.nytimes.com/2014/08/29/world/europe/ukraine-conflict.html?_r=0&referrer=


MOSCOW — Asserting that Russian soldiers and armaments had crossed into Ukraine to support the separatists, President Petro O. Poroshenko of Ukraine canceled a trip to Turkey on Thursday, and his national security council ordered mandatory conscription for the armed forces.

“Columns of heavy artillery, huge loads of arms and regular Russian servicemen came to the territory of Ukraine from Russia through the uncontrolled border area,” Mr. Poroshenko said at the beginning of an emergency meeting of the Ukrainian Nation Security and Defense Council in Kiev.

Mercenaries, along with regular servicemen, were trying to overrun positions held by the Ukrainian military, he said, according to a statement on his official website.
 
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