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Steelers' George Pickens Seemingly Sends Strong But Simple Message To Pittsburgh's Front Office On Social Media

FordFairLane said:
This entire offseason has been one colossal mess. The more I think about it the more I really don’t think Khan, Rooney and Tomlin have a single ******* clue on how to run an NFL franchise. Lets just go over this.
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Change isnt easy.. You can look at our roster turnover in two ways.. They're changing their ways and it's hard. OR They dont know wtf theyre doing.

They get paid lots of money to make these decisions on how to fix it. They dont give a **** what i think ,, or you think. And especially dont give TWO ***** for what cooch thinks. We got deeper on D. We have to see what the O line investements made do. We got better at RB. QB is a push . Draft the new QB next year.
 
slashsteel said:
By all reports he was having to be baby sat too often. They had no intention of seeing another season of that especially in a contract year where he was bound to whine over snaps.

Fans can complain about the cost of getting DK but it costs money to get decent WRs . You won’t be getting any bargains there unless they come with production or behavioral concerns.

They also weren’t going to squeeze out a QB just for the sake of it. They tried to stick with the value and who they liked in this draft. I can’t blame them for that. I don’t care for the timing of the trade but I think they weren’t getting the return they wanted earlier.

I would have handled free agency differently in regards to QB and WR to date.

But here we are..
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I agree but Pickens aside, They literally paid a Decent middle of the road WR Justin Jefferson/ Cee Dee lamb money? His Career production to date warrants low 20's at the absolute most and you could make a case for that being overpaying. At 33 million anything shy of Cee Dee Lamb or Jefferson Production means he was overpaid. I don't have anything against Metcalf I hope he becomes #1 WR in the league but I have been watching this game too long to bet on a guy making that leap in year 7. The Steelers should know better too.
 
bigben said:
I agree but Pickens aside, They literally paid a Decent middle of the road WR Justin Jefferson/ Cee Dee lamb money? His Career production to date warrants low 20's at the absolute most and you could make a case for that being overpaying. At 33 million anything shy of Cee Dee Lamb or Jefferson Production means he was overpaid. I don't have anything against Metcalf I hope he becomes #1 WR in the league but I have been watching this game too long to bet on a guy making that leap in year 7. The Steelers should know better too.
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You have to bring in top talent sometimes that means overpaying. You don’t like to see it but the nature of the position I am not sure it is unavoidable. Unless you want multiple scrubs out there. Teams have to give themselves a fighting chance to win. Not that I don’t get the concerns.

Steelers like that physical type of WR so I would presume they factor that in as well…
 
slashsteel said:
You have to bring in top talent sometimes that means overpaying. You don’t like to see it but the nature of the position I am not sure it is unavoidable. Unless you want multiple scrubs out there. Teams have to give themselves a fighting chance to win. Not that I don’t get the concerns.

Steelers like that physical type of WR so I would presume they factor that in as well…
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I get it you have to pay for top talent. Metcalf has never been top talent. Guys like Juedy, Sutton, collins, Devonta smith all had similar or better stats, they make less than half of DK, and the list goes on. Guys like Evans, Godwin, Mclaurin, St Brown, Make 60% or less, and they are levels above production wise.
I would love to hear someone who can explain how the came to the conclusion DK's production is worth more $ in 2025 than anyone not named Chase or Higgins. That Metcalf contract is criminally stupid.
 
bigben said:
I get it you have to pay for top talent. Metcalf has never been top talent. Guys like Juedy, Sutton, collins, Devonta smith all had similar or better stats, they make less than half of DK, and the list goes on. Guys like Evans, Godwin, Mclaurin, St Brown, Make 60% or less, and they are levels above production wise.
I would love to hear someone who can explain how the came to the conclusion DK's production is worth more $ in 2025 than anyone not named Chase or Higgins. That Metcalf contract is criminally stupid.
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They knew they weren’t hanging onto Pickens. They knew WR was arguably their weakest position and knew the draft at the position was fairly weak as was free agency.

I think stupid is not improving your roster. So an overpay perhaps. But a high necessary move for what their options were.

Guy still made the pro bowl what twice?

He is big, fast, and physical.

Who would you have went after instead?
 
bigben said:
I get it you have to pay for top talent. Metcalf has never been top talent. Guys like Juedy, Sutton, collins, Devonta smith all had similar or better stats, they make less than half of DK, and the list goes on. Guys like Evans, Godwin, Mclaurin, St Brown, Make 60% or less, and they are levels above production wise.
I would love to hear someone who can explain how the came to the conclusion DK's production is worth more $ in 2025 than anyone not named Chase or Higgins. That Metcalf contract is criminally stupid.
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Overpaid? Probably. But some of the guys you listed as having similar or better stats?

Yearly averages:

Metcalf: 73 catches, 1054 yards, 8 TD
Godwin: 72 catches, 908 yards, 5 TD (“levels above production wise”)
McLaurin: 76 catches, 1063 yards, 6 TD (“levels above production wise”)
Sutton: 54 catches, 762 yards, 4.5 TD (“similar or better stats”)
Jeudy: 60 catches, 856 yards, 3 TD (“similar or better stats”)
Collins: 54 catches, 807 yards, 4.5 TD (“similar or better stats”)

Oh, and let’s not forget Tee Higgins, since you brought him up:

Higgins: 66 catches, 919 yards, 7 TD

Here’s another stat. In DK’s 6 years in Seattle, the Seahawks ranked 23rd, 17th, 31st, 15th, 17th, and 7th in pass attempts. One year top ten, two top half of the league.
 
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slashsteel said:
They knew they weren’t hanging onto Pickens. They knew WR was arguably their weakest position and knew the draft at the position was fairly weak as was free agency.

I think stupid is not improving your roster. So an overpay perhaps. But a high necessary move for what their options were.

Guy still made the pro bowl what twice?

He is big, fast, and physical.

Who would you have went after instead?
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Metcalf may be an improvement over Pickens, maybe not? But he's guaranteed to cost 32 million more than George this year. I would have kept Pickens and saved the money. After signing DK atleast the silver lining was a much improved WR room. After the trade they are probably not much if any better off at WR.
You think DK is worth top 3 WR $?
 
WindyCitySteel said:
Overpaid? Probably. But some of the guys you listed as having similar or better stats?

Yearly averages:

Metcalf: 73 catches, 1054 yards, 8 TD
Godwin: 72 catches, 908 yards, 5 TD (“levels above production wise”)
McLaurin: 76 catches, 1063 yards, 6 TD (“levels above production wise”)
Sutton: 54 catches, 762 yards, 4.5 TD (“similar or better stats”)
Jeudy: 60 catches, 856 yards, 3 TD (“similar or better stats”)
Collins: 54 catches, 807 yards, 4.5 TD (“similar or better stats”)

Oh, and let’s not forget Tee Higgins, since you brought him up:

Higgins: 66 catches, 919 yards, 7 TD

Here’s another stat. In DK’s 6 years in Seattle, the Seahawks ranked 23rd, 17th, 31st, 15th, 17th, and 7th in pass attempts. One year top ten, two top half of the league.
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Numbers are off
Per pro football reference
Godwin avg 89 1113 6 td $22
Mclaurin avg 81 118 7td $19
Metcalf avg 77 1108 8td $33
Evans avg 85 1284 11td $21
Metcalfs production is worth 30-40% more than these guys I would ask how you could come to that conclusion??

Higgins is way overpaid too
 
bigben said:
Metcalf may be an improvement over Pickens, maybe not? But he's guaranteed to cost 32 million more than George this year. I would have kept Pickens and saved the money. After signing DK atleast the silver lining was a much improved WR room. After the trade they are probably not much if any better off at WR.
You think DK is worth top 3 WR $?
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I think Pickens wasn’t bringing the team together a potential AB situation. I have no idea what DK is worth looks like an overpay but mentioned that is sometimes unavoidable.
 
bigben said:
Numbers are off
Per pro football reference
Godwin avg 89 1113 6 td $22
Mclaurin avg 81 118 7td $19
Metcalf avg 77 1108 8td $33
Evans avg 85 1284 11td $21
Metcalfs production is worth 30-40% more than these guys I would ask how you could come to that conclusion??

Higgins is way overpaid too
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Godwin has 579 career catches in 8 years, that’s 72 catches/year. You’re looking at their calculated 17 game averages, he doesn’t play 17 per year, that’s misleading.

Availability is the most important ability.

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/G/GodwCh00.htm
 
bigben said:
Metcalf may be an improvement over Pickens, maybe not? But he's guaranteed to cost 32 million more than George this year. I would have kept Pickens and saved the money. After signing DK atleast the silver lining was a much improved WR room. After the trade they are probably not much if any better off at WR.
You think DK is worth top 3 WR $?
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Let’s see how Pickens does in Dallas if he doesn’t get the touches he wants, Jones said they’re not extending him so he’s still in a contract year.

DK is the 4th highest paid now, with $20-30M less guaranteed than the guys above him, by the end of his deal won’t be top 10, probably sooner than that. I still agree he’s overpaid but you can afford to do that when you aren’t paying your QB.

https://overthecap.com/position/wide-receiver
 
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WindyCitySteel said:
Let’s see how Pickens does in Dallas if he doesn’t get the touches he wants, Jones said they’re not extending him so he’s still in a contract year.

DK is the 4th highest paid now, with $20-30M less guaranteed than the guys above him, by the end of his deal won’t be top 10, probably sooner than that. I still agree he’s overpaid but you can afford to do that when you aren’t paying your QB.

https://overthecap.com/position/wide-receiver
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yeap, the non guaranteed part is the real difference
 
slashsteel said:
They knew they weren’t hanging onto Pickens. They knew WR was arguably their weakest position and knew the draft at the position was fairly weak as was free agency.

I think stupid is not improving your roster. So an overpay perhaps. But a high necessary move for what their options were.

Guy still made the pro bowl what twice?

He is big, fast, and physical.

Who would you have went after instead?
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Big, fast and physical are his alleged strengths.

Too bad the alleged weaknesses are limited routes, drop/concentration issues and whines when not targeted enough…remind ya of anyone 🤣

Have a feeling he will be a less talented version of Pickens at an inflated price tag due to the Steelers desperation. Hope I’m wrong but this could very well turn out to be a massive overpayment considering the shackles this offense puts on players. Hopefully he’s at least a volunteer and not a hostage.
 
Fiji Mariner said:
Big, fast and physical are his alleged strengths.

Too bad the alleged weaknesses are limited routes, drop/concentration issues and whines when not targeted enough…remind ya of anyone 🤣

Have a feeling he will be a less talented version of Pickens at an inflated price tag due to the Steelers desperation. Hope I’m wrong but this could very well turn out to be a massive overpayment considering the shackles this offense puts on players. Hopefully he’s at least a volunteer and not a hostage.
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Coach Tomlin will put up with near anything, as long as you are advancing the team and not a hostage,

I think George became disruptive and possibly asked to be made not a hostage.

Seems like we just traded book ends of the same book.



Salute the nation
 
Fiji Mariner said:
Big, fast and physical are his alleged strengths.

Too bad the alleged weaknesses are limited routes, drop/concentration issues and whines when not targeted enough…remind ya of anyone 🤣

Have a feeling he will be a less talented version of Pickens at an inflated price tag due to the Steelers desperation. Hope I’m wrong but this could very well turn out to be a massive overpayment considering the shackles this offense puts on players. Hopefully he’s at least a volunteer and not a hostage.
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He is a bigger version of Pickens. Their stats last season are almost identical with DK holding the edge. Also a 3.7 drop rate vs 5.8 for Pickens.

Less talented I wouldn’t say that at all. What he is, is a less problematic WR in comparison.
 
slashsteel said:
He is a bigger version of Pickens. Their stats last season are almost identical with DK holding the edge. Also a 3.7 drop rate vs 5.8 for Pickens.

Less talented I wouldn’t say that at all. What he is, is a less problematic WR in comparison.
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From what I’ve read DK has improved his drop rate, which is the positive. The 12.1 and 10.8 drop rates to start his career are definitely a bit concerning, but his 5.1 and 5.3 he followed with get him closer to the GP range (minus the body control, contested catches, catch radius and circus catches).

When stacking their numbers they are almost identical (per target) other than TDs. DK definitely targeted more and more TDs, but he’s in for a rude awakening coming to this basic ***** offense.

It will be interesting to see how those numbers translate and if he can keep his cool with that big paycheck or if he becomes problematic when he realizes he too is being stymied by Mike’s 3 pack of crayolas. Not much of a stretch to wonder about a guy who has cried about usage/targets in the past to think he may get frustrated operating in this clusterfuck.

Time will tell
But right now I hear tick,tick,tick….
 
Fiji Mariner said:
From what I’ve read DK has improved his drop rate, which is the positive. The 12.1 and 10.8 drop rates to start his career are definitely a bit concerning, but his 5.1 and 5.3 he followed with get him closer to the GP range (minus the body control, contested catches, catch radius and circus catches).

When stacking their numbers they are almost identical (per target) other than TDs. DK definitely targeted more and more TDs, but he’s in for a rude awakening coming to this basic ***** offense.

It will be interesting to see how those numbers translate and if he can keep his cool with that big paycheck or if he becomes problematic when he realizes he too is being stymied by Mike’s 3 pack of crayolas. Not much of a stretch to wonder about a guy who has cried about usage/targets in the past to think he may get frustrated operating in this clusterfuck.

Time will tell
But right now I hear tick,tick,tick….
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Right now we have to potential to have a DRAMA-FREE season. Under current QB-ing, I think DK would be happy knowing he will get a good portion or enough to keep his stats looking ok.

Bring in Rogers and all hell breaks loose on the circus department. DK will be expecting a blown up useage of the rogers of old, which won’t happen. Drama and retraction by both.

Rogers is coming, like it or not but also I have my doubts of a complete season by him. Are you listening Will ?????




Salute the nation
 
Drink IRON City said:
Right now we have to potential to have a DRAMA-FREE season. Under current QB-ing, I think DK would be happy knowing he will get a good portion or enough to keep his stats looking ok.

Bring in Rogers and all hell breaks loose on the circus department. DK will be expecting a blown up useage of the rogers of old, which won’t happen. Drama and retraction by both.

Rogers is coming, like it or not but also I have my doubts of a complete season by him. Are you listening Will ?????




Salute the nation
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I’m starting to believe Rodgers is smart enough to retire if he can’t find a better situation than the Steelers, which is basically every offense in the league.

My current bet is a very short retirement which he leaves once a QB suffers injury on a contending team that runs an NFL offense.

Think we may be all sleighs a go for Rudy
 
slashsteel said:
They knew they weren’t hanging onto Pickens. They knew WR was arguably their weakest position and knew the draft at the position was fairly weak as was free agency.

I think stupid is not improving your roster. So an overpay perhaps. But a high necessary move for what their options were.

Guy still made the pro bowl what twice?

He is big, fast, and physical.

Who would you have went after instead?
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Overpays and having to lose draft capital cuz FAs won’t come to Pittsburgh unless they are desperate…we’re reaping the rewards of a Tomlin offense.
 
slashsteel said:
He is a bigger version of Pickens. Their stats last season are almost identical with DK holding the edge. Also a 3.7 drop rate vs 5.8 for Pickens.

Less talented I wouldn’t say that at all. What he is, is a less problematic WR in comparison.
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I don't think GP is the #2 in Seattle behind Smith Njigba like DK. Playing second fiddle should never happen for a supposedly Elite WR, especially 6 years into a career, to a 2nd year guy who's shorter lighter and slower. Not a great look.
 
bigben said:
I don't think GP is the #2 in Seattle behind Smith Njigba like DK. Playing second fiddle should never happen for a supposedly Elite WR, especially 6 years into a career, to a 2nd year guy who's shorter lighter and slower. Not a great look.
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Pickens was #2 to Diontae Johnson until DJ got hurt and then traded.
 
WindyCitySteel said:
Pickens was #2 to Diontae Johnson until DJ got hurt and then traded.
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Pickens outplayed Dionte, was obvious to anyone watching in addition to being statistically superior.
22/23 seasons Pickens had more yards, 2x TD and more yards/ reception.
Dionte was listed as the #1 on the depth chart, assume DK was listed #1 as well. Both guys got outplayed and traded.
 
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