Part of this team still doesn’t know X and Os

[slashsteel]

“In Week 9, the Steelers defense showed a significant shift in coverage tendencies, using split-safety coverage on a season-high 46.4% of dropbacks after entering the week with the second-lowest split-safety usage rate in the NFL (28.2%).
Jalen Ramsey aligned at safety on 83.6% of his snaps, the first time in his career he positioned at safety on over 30% of his snaps. Recently acquired Kyle Dugger, traded from the Patriots, played 72 of 76 defensive snaps (97.3%) in his Steelers debut. per
@NextGenStats
#Steelers #NFL”

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My two and a half cents:


I have said this every time in my support of blowing up the coaches associated with defensive game planning and or adjustments of said X and Os during the heat of battle.

Our eyes have seen this defensive show finally evolve against the Colts.

So will they stay the course or go back to what wasn’t working? Will they adjust when that time comes to adjust or will it take 8 games to recognize and adjust yet again?

Also there are still concerns about the defensive line schematics. Very curious to see the tape what worked with shutting down one of the leagues hottest running backs.

Coming off one of the best victories is a perfect time to discuss this for those who might have minute inner struggles about the state of this team moving forward. I still do not harbor any changed feelings of what needs to ultimately take place. A coaching change. I am still in the firm belief that a brief stimulating victory shouldn’t create a lack of vision of the trees within the forest.

Do I love the win you bet I did. I also want more and have a desire to see this team react quicker to adversity to where we don’t have to see players frustrations escalate before they can carve out a needed victory.

This upcoming road matchup is against a team that lost two of their running backs, two of their tackles. So you disguise your blitzes and pressure their main way of beating you with a capable QB.

As always I would love to be proven wrong. I couldn’t be more happier if that comes to pass. If I can miraculously see a playoff win on the heels of timely adjustments not seen in over a decade.

One of my points revolves around a tiring delusional stance that the players simply need to play better. 8 games in and those said players miraculously played better because they simply stepped up or did something change to put them in a better position for success? (See supporting leadoff statistic) Never-mind that a coach should be able to identify what players aren’t living up to snuff and also not take an extended amount of time to evoke change. Now matter how you slice it….

I so hope the song they are singing isn’t I did my best but I guess my best wasn’t good enough.

Wanna hear it? Here it go…

 

[Avoid_Lloyd]

“In Week 9, the Steelers defense showed a significant shift in coverage tendencies, using split-safety coverage on a season-high 46.4% of dropbacks after entering the week with the second-lowest split-safety usage rate in the NFL (28.2%).
Jalen Ramsey aligned at safety on 83.6% of his snaps, the first time in his career he positioned at safety on over 30% of his snaps. Recently acquired Kyle Dugger, traded from the Patriots, played 72 of 76 defensive snaps (97.3%) in his Steelers debut. per
@NextGenStats
#Steelers #NFL”

(SN’s preferences prevent a link to site originator)

My two and a half cents:


I have said this every time in my support of blowing up the coaches associated with defensive game planning and or adjustments of said X and Os during the heat of battle.

Our eyes have seen this defensive show finally evolve against the Colts.

So will they stay the course or go back to what wasn’t working? Will they adjust when that time comes to adjust or will it take 8 games to recognize and adjust yet again?

Also there are still concerns about the defensive line schematics. Very curious to see the tape what worked with shutting down one of the leagues hottest running backs.

Coming off one of the best victories is a perfect time to discuss this for those who might have minute inner struggles about the state of this team moving forward. I still do not harbor any changed feelings of what needs to ultimately take place. A coaching change. I am still in the firm belief that a brief stimulating victory shouldn’t create a lack of vision of the trees within the forest.

Do I love the win you bet I did. I also want more and have a desire to see this team react quicker to adversity to where we don’t have to see players frustrations escalate before they can carve out a needed victory.

This upcoming road matchup is against a team that lost two of their running backs, two of their tackles. So you disguise your blitzes and pressure their main way of beating you with a capable QB.

As always I would love to be proven wrong. I couldn’t be more happier if that comes to pass. If I can miraculously see a playoff win on the heels of timely adjustments not seen in over a decade.

One of my points revolves around a tiring delusional stance that the players simply need to play better. 8 games in and those said players miraculously played better because they simply stepped up or did something change to put them in a better position for success? (See supporting leadoff statistic) Never-mind that a coach should be able to identify what players aren’t living up to snuff and also not take an extended amount of time to evoke change. Now matter how you slice it….

I so hope the song they are singing isn’t I did my best but I guess my best wasn’t good enough.

Wanna hear it? Here it go…

Great post. You half to give Tomlin credit for those adjustments vs the Colts, just like you half to give him credit for a great gameplan to neutralize Garrett and be unpredictable vs. Cleveland.

But most Steeler fans will continue to judge Tomlin as all Steeler coaches post Noll should be judged: post season performance. These wins do show some positive change, while laying eggs vs. the Bengals shows the same old Tomlin.

If they go to the AFC Championship or farther this year Tomlin shuts me up-happily. Anything less than that is just Groundhog Day like the last 8 years and those cumulative results should get him rightly fired if he worked for anyone but Art Rooney II. Winning one playoff game, or “keeping a flawed team competitive” does not erase the past 8 years in anyone’s eyes but his shrinking apologist contingent of the fan base

 

[Aussie_Steeler]

This upcoming road matchup is against a team that lost two of their running backs, two of their tackles. So you disguise your blitzes and pressure their main way of beating you with a capable QB.

I wouldn't underestimate the Chargers running game. In the four games since Omarion Hampton went down they have gone for 140, 54 (against Indy who also stuffed the Steelers running game), 207 and 131 yards rushing. 532 yards in four games at 134 per game without those two running backs.

 

[slashsteel]

I wouldn't underestimate the Chargers running game. In the four games since Omarion Hampton went down they have gone for 140, 54 (against Indy who also stuffed the Steelers running game), 207 and 131 yards rushing. 532 yards in four games at 134 per game without those two running backs.

Good catch

 

[jitter77]

The adjustments i saw were simple. Ramsey at safety and dropping LBs into the slant lanes. Not sure what we did different against the run, but we beat up Indys Oline in general. The Chargers are 5th in yrds / game, but only 17th in points per game which is a few spots below us. I don't see us getting 6 turnovers again, but if we play the same way it will give us a chance to win. Hopefully we don't Tomlinize Dugger too soon. In thought he played well given the circumstances.

 

[Fiji Mariner]

There were minor adjustments certainly- playing split safeties more and dropping LBs into passing lanes…slow clap for them doing things fans have been asking them to do for a long while now. Also the LB/DL getting hands up to tip balls when they can’t get there with pressure. Even a casual like myself made all three of those specific suggestions weeks ago.

The single biggest factor was several fortunate breaks and bounces of the ball that put the Colts in a position where they abandoned the run game and the ball kept bouncing our way, from the opening punt all the way through the 4th quarter.

The game unfolded as perfectly as it could for the Steelers as an opponent came in and overlooked them and their shyte D, the Colts were victims of a trap game…yup I said it…this Steelers D is soooo historically bad we were the trap game. They obviously had zero respect for the Steelers D running fake punts in their own end (and converting) and going every 4th down they could.

The Steelers had a very fortunate day where they got 6 turnovers and were able to squeak out a win, barely with a +5 TO margin.

That pass D was still pathetic and the only thing that “shut down” their run game was the Colts and their blatant disrespect for the Steelers pathetic pass D.

What happened in that game is simply not a sustainable plan…but at least they broke the skid and I’m happy they were such a lucky team and we even got a Cam AND TJ Watt sighting, I thought they had both retired.

 

[Ron Burgundy]

Great post. You half to give Tomlin credit for those adjustments vs the Colts, just like you half to give him credit for a great gameplan to neutralize Garrett and be unpredictable vs. Cleveland.

But most Steeler fans will continue to judge Tomlin as all Steeler coaches post Noll should be judged: post season performance. These wins do show some positive change, while laying eggs vs. the Bengals shows the same old Tomlin.

If they go to the AFC Championship or farther this year Tomlin shuts me up-happily. Anything less than that is just Groundhog Day like the last 8 years and those cumulative results should get him rightly fired if he worked for anyone but Art Rooney II. Winning one playoff game, or “keeping a flawed team competitive” does not erase the past 8 years in anyone’s eyes but his shrinking apologist contingent of the fan base

If the Steelers notch a playoff win this year it guarantees another 3-year extension for Shades. Bank on it.

In case nobody's noticed, at the moment the Steelers somehow have a two-game lead in the division, the only winning record in the AFC North, and the Chefs aren't making the playoffs.
I'm thinking A-Aron gets team MVP this year.

 

[Avoid_Lloyd]

If the Steelers notch a playoff win this year it guarantees another 3-year extension for Shades. Bank on it.

In case nobody's noticed, at the moment the Steelers somehow have a two-game lead in the division, the only winning record in the AFC North, and the Chefs aren't making the playoffs.
I'm thinking A-Aron gets team MVP this year.

Of course you’re right if he wins ONE playoff game he will get extended and all of his fanboys will be over social media all offseason season saying the “haters” are now silenced. It’s amazing how the standards of success have been lowered for Tomlin.

There would be torches and pitchforks out for Cowher if he had Tomlin’s past 8 year run of futility and then won ONE playoff game.

Just to be clear there is no gaurantee we win a playoff game, it would take a massive shift in approach from Tomlin to do that

My fear is Tomlin is extended, Rodgers retires, a 1st round QB is drafted, and we go back to the caveman offense and ruin the new QB because the middle of the field becomes lava again and we throw 5 yard passes to the outside of the field all day

 

[Ron Burgundy]

My fear is Tomlin is extended, Rodgers retires, a 1st round QB is drafted, and we go back to the caveman offense and ruin the new QB because the middle of the field becomes lava again and we throw 5 yard passes to the outside of the field all day

"It's like deja vu all over again." -- Yogi Berra

 

[oicu8ad]

We just got 6 turnovers and barely won a one score squeaker. Don't tell me you weren't worried when Roman fumbled.

Don't fool yourselves. We will make the playoffs and get crushed in the first round. Bank on that.

 

[Fiji Mariner]

Still not so sure the Steelers are any sort of playoff contender, definitely not a lock.

The Rats have the easiest path to the division win looking at their schedule and the Steeles schedules.

If the Rats sweep the season series with the Steelers bye bye two game lead, behind in the tiebreaker and they’ll be lucky to get a WC spot as the Steelers and Chiefs would be competing for that last spot…and not a person in their right mind would pick the Steelers getting that spot over the Chiefs.

So, did Mike learn anything from that absolute *** whooping the Rats put on the Steelers last time they played?

These next 5 weeks will be very telling. At Chargers will be tough, Bengals coming to Pittsburgh (will Flacco bend over the Steelers and rape them again?), at Chicago, Bills come to town (that’s a L if we don’t get 5-6 TOs) and at Ravens (likely another L). How many wins do we see in that group of games? 2?? 3 if they’re really lucky??? The Rats next 5 look like an easy 4-1, maybe 5-0.

The good news is football is a game of confidence and momentum and the Steelers look like they may have a bit after that game vs the Colts

 

[Avoid_Lloyd]

Still not so sure the Steelers are any sort of playoff contender, definitely not a lock.

The Rats have the easiest path to the division win looking at their schedule and the Steeles schedules.

If the Rats sweep the season series with the Steelers bye bye two game lead, behind in the tiebreaker and they’ll be lucky to get a WC spot as the Steelers and Chiefs would be competing for that last spot…and not a person in their right mind would pick the Steelers getting that spot over the Chiefs.

So, did Mike learn anything from that absolute *** whooping the Rats put on the Steelers last time they played?

These next 5 weeks will be very telling. At Chargers will be tough, Bengals coming to Pittsburgh (will Flacco bend over the Steelers and rape them again?), at Chicago, Bills come to town (that’s a L if we don’t get 5-6 TOs) and at Ravens (likely another L). How many wins do we see in that group of games? 2?? 3 if they’re really lucky??? The Rats next 5 look like an easy 4-1, maybe 5-0.

The good news is football is a game of confidence and momentum and the Steelers look like they may have a bit after that game vs the Colts

I think if Rodgers stays healthy and the offense isn’t too far behind on the scoreboard and forced to throw deep too much (Rodgers quick release is masking the problems on the OL, when he held the ball to go deep late against the Packers they were exposed) it is good for 25 points or more going forward

As you said what did Tomlin learn if anything form the beat down the rats gave him last time and can this defense not get lit up by teams with decent to great QBs that we have to face coming up will decide our fate