yesWas it Monken that transformed Action Jackson? If so that is an interesting name as he was pretty special how they made him into a better passer…
yesWas it Monken that transformed Action Jackson? If so that is an interesting name as he was pretty special how they made him into a better passer…
Over the past five years, this team has played like a bottom-5 team more than a team capable of winning a playoff game.Tomlin's teams have been setting all kinds of records for the wrong reasons over the past decade.
As time passes, I've just become less shocked with each new one I see.
It's absolutely astonishing how he constantly still avoids losing records like he does.
It doesn't. The schemes are lacking. And they seem to become terrible at the most visible moments. I saw the 2 DL thing right away down near the goal line because of the camera angle CBS gave, when Chicago ran it in without resistance. You see it and it's like WTH? That's where i have been so wrong about Tomlin. That hasn't worked for a long time if it ever did. I thought he would see it at some point, but he doesn't. So I don't blame the players for that play. That's all coaching. But what is overlooked is that most of the drive down the field before that TD the Steelers were more traditional if I remember right, 3 DL, Watt, Herbig, and all that, and nobody beat anybody from Chicago to impact that drive. It was a dance contest out there.You’re right diver, both are correct. It seems the current scheme doesn’t put the players in best positions to win. The OL blocking scheme seems to be one, the defensive coverage (middle) seems to be another, the offense not passing over the middle seems to be another,……………..
Noll didn’t do deficient schemes on a consistent basis, he continuously tried to get players and scheme to match. He was fortunate to have the great players he had, thus making his job easier.
Unfortunately the Tomlin scheme has been deficient for quite some time. It’s not that he hasn’t had great players, but more like player not matching up to the scheme. the round peg / square hole syndrome.
AS for coach speak, absolutely agree the coach is not going to address in real terms the behind the scenes questions. It’s frustrating for the fans to listen to the salad trying to make himself appear smarter, by use of riddled language.
Now the Tomlin is down to bringing in players he doesn’t have to develope, a losing cause as cost and age become a defeating purpose.
Salute the nation
You sure do a lot of defending and deflecting for a guy you just admitted you say you feel a “dope” for supporting…I'll admit I'm wrong about some things, but there are some things I am absolutely right about as well. You see everything through the lense of Tomlin BAD! I don't. Coaches, all coaches, hate press conferences, even when things are going well. Most of their answers are just to get through that particular moment. Coachspeak. That's just a fact. But every once in a while they will say something more revealing, and those two moments were an example of that. Why don't you explain what you want him to say in a press conference, and then tell me what coach would ever say what you want him to say? But you won't because you can't, and that's why I'm right on that.
I'll add in...
You cannot go 61 games in a row and counting scoring 7 or fewer points in the first quarter.
That is ****** horrific. That’s damn near 4 total seasons. Tomlin can hang that on his wall along with his Tomlinship record. Be a nice combo.I'll add in...
You cannot go 61 games in a row and counting scoring 7 or fewer points in the first quarter...
Over the past five years, this team has played like a bottom-5 team more than a team capable of winning a playoff game.
Well there you go. We agree. That's all that matters. I've said that for a long time. Keep it to the absolute facts that we see. There are other criticisms, some legit, others not so much. It is not an effort to deflect, because you cannot deflect from the facts. That has been my position for years. The Tomlin BAD! lense you see everything through keeps you from realizing that. I challenge you to ever show where I ever tried to defend his record.You sure do a lot of defending and deflecting for a guy you just admitted you say you feel a “dope” for supporting…
Only one thing matters: 0 playoff wins in 8 years
There are lots of other legitimate criticisms of him that get brought up here and you love to nitpick at them here for whatever reason, but you can’t get around 8 years of playoff futility-his press conferences, or how the players block tackle etc. are minute to the conversation because he hasn’t won a playoff game in 8 YEARSall your nitpicking about what’s fair or unfair to criticize him about is just a poor attempt to deflect from that. He’s the head coach he’s responsible for everything at the end of the day
No NFL coach at any other franchise besides the one Art Rooney II runs still has a job after not winning a playoff game in 8 years, no minutia or excuse or yeah buts would matter, full stop
Deconstruct that
I stopped spending money on them years ago, except for going to two games and buying one jersey for my wife. And I guess Su day Ticket counts. ****! Other than that I dindo nuffin.Winning only becomes important to the owners if losing starts to affect the bottom line. That's it. As long as the fans keep supporting with their money, there is no reason to ruffle the feathers of the golden goose.
Some owners are passionate about the sport and really want to win. Our team owners have been at this so long, the winning isn't what drives them /At least that's how it seems) To them, this is just a business, and business is doing well for now. No changes.
Yeah, same here. It's been close to 15 years since I spent a dime on anything NFL.I stopped spending money on them years ago, except for going to two games and buying one jersey for my wife. And I guess Su day Ticket counts. ****! Other than that I dindo nuffin.
He’s extraordinary in that he has coached conservative offense into the team so well it has spanned multiple OCs and QBs. No one deviates from it except the WRs who are vastly ignored, get upset, then get traded because they want to produce.Which makes how they still manage to win 8-10 games every year even more impressive.
Maybe "impressive" isnt the right word, considering the same problems always persist from year to year, but you get the point.
Saying that, there are glorious Tomlin records/streaks abound in the post season as well.
I'm starting to think we're looking at Tomlin wrong, as he has NOT become mediocre.
He's become extraordinary in his own way.
The only way that Shades' seat is remotely warm is if Deuce looks at all the money he's spending on The League's Highest Paid Defense and they're at the bottom in nearly every statistical category with a supposed defensive genius as head coach.No NFL coach at any other franchise besides the one Art Rooney II runs still has a job after not winning a playoff game in 8 years, no minutia or excuse or yeah buts would matter, full stop.