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Kahn vs. Colbert

Colbert was excellent for the time he served. However, the game and players are continually evolving and Colbert really didn't evolve well, maybe it was because of HCMT set in his ways and really influencing who he wanted. Kahn is approaching the game in a more modern manner along with Weidel and I feel McCarthy has a more modern sense of draft/free agent needs. Kahn and Weidel have made real efforts into beefing up the trenches and building a strong foundation.
 
Shane Falco said:
Colbert was excellent for the time he served. However, the game and players are continually evolving and Colbert really didn't evolve well, maybe it was because of HCMT set in his ways and really influencing who he wanted. Kahn is approaching the game in a more modern manner along with Weidel and I feel McCarthy has a more modern sense of draft/free agent needs. Kahn and Weidel have made real efforts into beefing up the trenches and building a strong foundation.
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You have to do more than make efforts though, you still need results and here's the results, the last 3 playoff games with Kahn/Weidel's guys we've been outscored 89-37 and out rushed 643 to 198, including the worse home playoff lost in our history.
I feel like everyone is trying to give these guys a participation trophy for trying.
Hopefully with Tomlin out of here we'll see better results in the draft, Dotson was a good pick who is has been a 3 year starter with the Rams, Tomlin had no clue, it was Tomlin who was spewing garbage about how good Kendrick Green could be as an NFL Center.
 
Just build the trenches and everything else happens.
 
1. You’re never going to know until both careers are concluded. (Most functional organizations don’t operate in terms of an inter-generational d**k measuring contest. It’s about collective effort.)

2. Praise and blame are attributed to the general manager, but, credit can be a collective effort or the work of a completely separate individual. It’s like a corporation. (Ex. Jobs didn’t spearhead the engineering of the iPhone. He had input on features, aesthetics and marketing but, the engineers did the reverse work and initial design. Jobs oversaw Apple as a totality and as founder.)
 
BLITZ said:
Well sure as **** don't spend huge draft capital on a qb until you have guys to protect him
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No. If a QB is good enough, you take them regardless of the rest of the roster. Also, the Steelers have drafted Jones, Fautanu, Frazier, and McCormick. They've developed Anderson who may take over at left guard (who knows if he's any good as a starter). Either way, they've invested plenty in the position and can find starters in the middle rounds. This team has trouble scoring points and needed a 40+ year old QB to change that last season. There is a strong foundation of linemen in place, time to add playmakers and QB.
 
SteelerFan448 said:
No. If a QB is good enough, you take them regardless of the rest of the roster. Also, the Steelers have drafted Jones, Fautanu, Frazier, and McCormick. They've developed Anderson who may take over at left guard (who knows if he's any good as a starter). Either way, they've invested plenty in the position and can find starters in the middle rounds. This team has trouble scoring points and needed a 40+ year old QB to change that last season. There is a strong foundation of linemen in place, time to add playmakers and QB.
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Personally I would go bpa whst ever the position. But if a stud DL falls get him.boline a very close second
 
SteelerFan448 said:
No. If a QB is good enough, you take them regardless of the rest of the roster. Also, the Steelers have drafted Jones, Fautanu, Frazier, and McCormick. They've developed Anderson who may take over at left guard (who knows if he's any good as a starter). Either way, they've invested plenty in the position and can find starters in the middle rounds. This team has trouble scoring points and needed a 40+ year old QB to change that last season. There is a strong foundation of linemen in place, time to add playmakers and QB.
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The overreach on the KFP pick has hurt them for years. Why reach again into a weak QB class this draft?
 
Confluence said:
The overreach on the KFP pick has hurt them for years. Why reach again into a weak QB class this draft?
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Has it?

2022 Trubisky/Pickett
2023 Pickett
2024 Fields/Wilson
2025 Rodgers

So we would've had a mystery QB in 2023. Beyond that, they gave up on Pickett so fast and haven't done anything to find a serious long-term answer since then.
 
SteelerFan448 said:
Has it?

2022 Trubisky/Pickett
2023 Pickett
2024 Fields/Wilson
2025 Rodgers

So we would've had a mystery QB in 2023. Beyond that, they gave up on Pickett so fast and haven't done anything to find a serious long-term answer since then.
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The iggles, stains and raiduz have also let KFP walk after 1 season or less. The jury seems to have decided.

Hindsight is easy, but so was this very forum being mostly disappointed the team took KFP rather than filling the trenches in R1.

My hope, this draft, is that they do not do it again. With the needs at LT and LG, and NT/DT, and WR, overpaying for KFP 2.0 ahead of what is universally agreed upon as a much better 2027 QB class would be a repeated FO mistake.
 
Confluence said:
The iggles, stains and raiduz have also let KFP walk after 1 season or less. The jury seems to have decided.

Hindsight is easy, but so was this very forum being mostly disappointed the team took KFP rather than filling the trenches in R1.

My hope, this draft, is that they do not do it again. With the needs at LT and LG, and NT/DT, and WR, overpaying for KFP 2.0 ahead of what is universally agreed upon as a much better 2027 QB class would be a repeated FO mistake.
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I'm not saying take a QB in the first, but the 2026 QB class was universally agreed upon being much better than 2025 and the best in years and it stinks.
 
i_just_dont_care said:
Yeah, I didn’t know there was an underline
sub-feature until right now. Also, I’d have to check a grammar manual to figure out what the proper font style is for a computer program.
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Is this the infamous Coach perhaps?
 
Confluence said:
The iggles, stains and raiduz have also let KFP walk after 1 season or less. The jury seems to have decided.

Hindsight is easy, but so was this very forum being mostly disappointed the team took KFP rather than filling the trenches in R1.

My hope, this draft, is that they do not do it again. With the needs at LT and LG, and NT/DT, and WR, overpaying for KFP 2.0 ahead of what is universally agreed upon as a much better 2027 QB class would be a repeated FO mistake.
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Ok, let’s stop beating the dead horse. Kenny Pickett is gone. Kenny Pickett is not the reason they are in football purgatory. I think the front office gets it but you’re still missing the picture, Colbert had a solid amount of good work before KFP. McDuffie or Walker, I get. Do you think they would’ve developed Tyler Smith or Linderbaum well? You better be damn sure a guard in round one pans out. For heavens sake, they took Jones instead of Christian Gonzalez. In that one, Skoronski wasn’t far way. They took Benton instead of Torrence. The O-line is not predicated on one pick in one draft. Also, you might not get that round one guard prospect, Jerry has two firsts. He could go DT, OG or OT, OG or LB, OG, who the hell knows? Anyways, ya might be SOL. Jerry likes to play spoiler. Point being, common types look for an individual scapegoat. It’s the organization as a totality.
 
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i_just_dont_care said:
Ok, let’s stop beating the dead horse. Kenny Pickett is gone. Kenny Pickett is not the reason they are in football purgatory. I think the front office gets it but you’re still missing the picture, Colbert had a solid amount of good work before KFP. McDuffie or Walker, I get. Do you think they would’ve developed Tyler Smith or Linderbaum well? You better be damn sure a guard in round one pans out. For heavens sake, they took Jones instead of Christian Gonzalez. In that one, Skoronski wasn’t far way. They took Benton instead of Torrence. The O-line is not predicated on one pick in one draft. Also, you might not get that round one guard prospect, Jerry has two firsts. He could go DT, OG or OT, OG or LB, OG, who the hell knows? Anyways, ya might be SOL. Jerry likes to play spoiler. Point being, common types look for an individual scapegoat. It’s the organization as a totality.
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First welcome to SN.com

Second, this is a forum for folks opinions.
I expressed mine relative to using a R1 pick on a QB.

I know that Tomlin sucked for a decade, that Dookie has been worse longer. That was not the discussion point.

But you're new, and now it's clear what you think and that you seem to care about Jerra when almost nobody else does. Noted.
 
WindyCitySteel said:
This has become the rule rather than the exception. Remember what they said about KP's class a year prior? This mock had 4 QBs going top 10, including 1 and 2.

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2945578-way-too-early-2022-nfl-mock-draft
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Next year, Manning will go high based on last name alone--regardless what he does on the field. Moore was a top-5 pick this year, so he either holds steady or falls. Julian Sayin is the third with his accuracy and processing. He lacks some of the tools but more than makes up for it with those traits. If these three continue on their current trajectory, all will be top-5 picks. The rest of the QBs, who knows?
 
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