So... you HAVE TO take a quarterback in this draft... who ya taking?

[insaniti]

That's fine, so where do you think Simpson should get drafted?

Wasn't the point, you were clamoring on about him comparing Simpson to Mahomes and Rodgers, but it was only in height, he then went on to point out both Mahomes and Rodgers weighed more, and had elite arm talent traits that Simpson does not.

As me for me personally, don't care as long as it isn't by the steelers. Since Chambliss is off the board, there isn't much left in the cupboards. Build the trenches, find the QB later...until then give Howard a shot, what's the worst that can happen, we get the #1 pick next year? Oh no...

 

[slashsteel]

Wasn't the point, you were clamoring on about him comparing Simpson to Mahomes and Rodgers, but it was only in height, he then went on to point out both Mahomes and Rodgers weighed more, and had elite arm talent traits that Simpson does not.

As me for me personally, don't care as long as it isn't by the steelers. Since Chambliss is off the board, there isn't much left in the cupboards. Build the trenches, find the QB later...until then give Howard a shot, what's the worst that can happen, we get the #1 pick next year? Oh no...

Would be a very desirable approach. Pick a QB in 3 or 4 and have him and Will battle it out and see what you have leading into next years draft.

Then there is the Steelers approach that will crush any wants like that. They will not 6 million dollar man rebuild him. They have the technology. They can make him better than he was. Better, stronger, faster.

No they will run it back with their we never want to rebuild approach we can squeeze out another winning season….weeeeeeeee.

Reality is a hard pill to swallow, we can throw out any other approach that is to our liking. Because it isn’t going to happen not now, and not in the foreseeable future.

 

[insaniti]

I don't think Rooney truly understands how lucky we were to land Ben.

 

[WindyCitySteel]

Definitely a hard evaluation. Will be interesting how it plays out.

It's the age old dilemma, is it easier to teach a toolsy guy the above the neck stuff, accuracy, pocket presence, etc, vs. can you coach around the lack of elite tools with a brainiac?

Montana, Manning, Brady, and Brees prove the latter is possible, Bradshaw, Ben, Josh Allen, Elway the former.

Ideally you find a guy with both, like Mahomes.

 

[SteelerFan448]

The problem with taking a QB this year is the depth chart. Will the Steelers trust a QB room with, for example, Rodgers, Howard, Allar/Klubnik? Maybe if they believe Simpson is the guy, they could go Rodgers, Simpson, Howard. If they plan on keeping Rudolph, forget about even drafting one.

 

[Black & Gold Bleeder]

take a guy late like they did with howard. Bring back rodgers, Thompson and howard. Let em fight it out in camp as to who stays to be 1,2, 3. Someone gets cut.

 

[tapeANaspirin2it]

This is who we take

 

[Steel Maniac]

I’m trading a3rd round pick for Mac Jones.

 

[steel dino]

If he wasn't so old, I'd be intriqued by what Fagnano from UConn brings to the table ... as of now, I'd take a flyer on him in the 5th or 6th.

Agreed.
Not the 5th though..
7th or UDFA.

 

[Coryea]

Nussmeier, Allar, or Payton, Beck doesn't have the arm IMO, but I'd be happy if they took any of those 3, we need to figure it out and the more arms the better. Even better if Rodgers doesn't come back.

 

[Superman]

Nussmeier, Allar, or Payton, Beck doesn't have the arm IMO, but I'd be happy if they took any of those 3, we need to figure it out and the more arms the better. Even better if Rodgers doesn't come back.

Nussmeier has no arm
Allar hasnt the mental clarity
Payton is a dark horse due to competition

my choices:
Sawyer Robertson - Baylor. Finally seems to have put it together.
Taylen Green - Arkansas. Athleticism is off the charts.

camp invite:
Joey Aguilar - Tennessee. Has the arm and ability. Needs to work on accuracy.

 

[DesertSteel]

I’m trading a3rd round pick for Mac Jones.

I'll co-sign that.

 

[Coryea]

I’m trading a3rd round pick for Mac Jones.

Absolutely and that would mean Rodgers isn't here next year! I'm all in there.

 

[Steeltime]

I’m trading a 3rd round pick for Mac Jones.

As several others have noted in this thread, another game manager is not the answer. For the love of God, can we please, please, PLEASE move on from 10-7 and a 1st round pasting??

Mac Jones is the ultimate game manager, 10-7 QB. Ty Simpson is a game manager, 9-8 or 8-9 QB so long as he has a very good running game.

ENOUGH OF THAT ****!!!!

 

[insaniti]

Nussmeier, Allar, or Payton, Beck doesn't have the arm IMO, but I'd be happy if they took any of those 3, we need to figure it out and the more arms the better. Even better if Rodgers doesn't come back.

Georgia Beck would be one thing, but post injury Miami Beck is another story...But MM is pretty high on him, so maybe he can regain some arm strength?

 

[TheDudeAbides]

My problems with Beck are a) he has EASILY the most punchable face I've seen in a long time, and b) I think his maturity is highly suspect. He's decent as long as everything is going his way. I've seen reports that a lot of the UGA team had a party when he hit the portal. He's a long term project, at best.

 

[SteelerFan448]

My problems with Beck are a) he has EASILY the most punchable face I've seen in a long time, and b) I think his maturity is highly suspect. He's decent as long as everything is going his way. I've seen reports that a lot of the UGA team had a party when he hit the portal. He's a long term project, at best.

I didn't like how Beck blatantly tossed blame around in a couple of his postgame PCs.

 

[MTC]

My problems with Beck are a) he has EASILY the most punchable face I've seen in a long time, and b) I think his maturity is highly suspect. He's decent as long as everything is going his way. I've seen reports that a lot of the UGA team had a party when he hit the portal. He's a long term project, at best.

As a UGA grad who regularly watches UGA games. I would shy away from Beck. He’s a diva

 

[Fiji Mariner]

Nussmeier has no arm
Allar hasnt the mental clarity
Payton is a dark horse due to competition

my choices:
Sawyer Robertson - Baylor. Finally seems to have put it together.
Taylen Green - Arkansas. Athleticism is off the charts.

camp invite:
Joey Aguilar - Tennessee. Has the arm and ability. Needs to work on accuracy.

I’ve been pimpin’ Green for over a year now
His skillset reminds me of Randall Cunningham

I think he’s the perfect type of developmental guy with a ceiling (and floor) that are both off the charts.

Now that there is finally a QB guy in the house I’d definitely take a swing at him in that 4-5 range if available (maybe even the 3rd depending how QBs are coming off the board)

Would love to see a couple raw/developmental guys compete against Howard for the job and let the chips fall where they may.

 

[Fiji Mariner]

As a UGA grad who regularly watches UGA games. I would shy away from Beck. He’s a diva

Also huge UGA fan and haven’t missed a game in over a decade

I don’t see diva when I see Beck (other than his choice of vehicle)

He reminds me more of a trailer park meth head

So…likely the Steeler pick in rnd 2

 

[MTC]

Also huge UGA fan and haven’t missed a game in over a decade

I don’t see diva when I see Beck (other than his choice of vehicle)

He reminds me more of a trailer park meth head

So…likely the Steeler pick in rnd 2

He definitely changed once the NIL came into play

 

[Coryea]

As several others have noted in this thread, another game manager is not the answer. For the love of God, can we please, please, PLEASE move on from 10-7 and a 1st round pasting??

Mac Jones is the ultimate game manager, 10-7 QB. Ty Simpson is a game manager, 9-8 or 8-9 QB so long as he has a very good running game.

ENOUGH OF THAT ****!!!!

Yet here we sit waiting on a 43 year old QB to call the shots, that led us to 10-7 and a 1st round pasting. Oh boy I can't wait to see what happens this year.

I don't think anyone wants Mac Jones necessarily because they think he's the next guy, but he's young and has something to prove and there's a slim possibility he could be with an offensive guy, very doubtful and I don't think that would happen, but that would mean no Rodgers. You could bench Jones if he sucked, and see what you have in Howard or whoever, no one is benching Rodgers. Rodgers comes back, it's just another year wasted at QB and drafting in the 20's probably again.

 

[steel dino]

Also huge UGA fan and haven’t missed a game in over a decade

I don’t see diva when I see Beck (other than his choice of vehicle)

He reminds me more of a trailer park meth head

So…likely the Steeler pick

Also huge UGA fan and haven’t missed a game in over a decade

I don’t see diva when I see Beck (other than his choice of vehicle)

He reminds me more of a trailer park meth head

So…likely the Steeler pick in rnd 2

Totally agree about the trailer park meth head comparison..

I actually mentioned that during the season that this kid doesn’t look right..

Actually concerned for the young man, it seems to me that he might have some issues and challenges..

Hope that I’m way off base with that analysis of him, but I’ve been around a long time, and I know that I’ve seen enough to know that I’ve seen enough..,

 

[Steeltime]

Yet here we sit waiting on a 43 year old QB to call the shots, that led us to 10-7 and a 1st round pasting. Oh boy I can't wait to see what happens this year.

I don't think anyone wants Mac Jones necessarily because they think he's the next guy, but he's young and has something to prove and there's a slim possibility he could be with an offensive guy, very doubtful and I don't think that would happen, but that would mean no Rodgers. You could bench Jones if he sucked, and see what you have in Howard or whoever, no one is benching Rodgers. Rodgers comes back, it's just another year wasted at QB and drafting in the 20's probably again.

Oh, make no mistake, I am definitely not pushing for another year of Rodgers. The "crafty vet" strategy is another guaranteed mediocre season with no chance in the playoffs.

The Steelers need to look beyond the tip of their nose for once. Deal the #21 to drop down and get any number of players who are basically #20 to #40 picks in terms of talent and are almost identical as to likely NFL stardom, use that to get a #2 pick in the 2027 draft, and plan on using the #1 and #3 picks and the 2028 #1 to move up to a legit spot to get a franchise QB. No way around it.

By trading down and getting another #2 pick in the 2027 draft, the team still has a lot of draft capital to help the new QB. The draft value chart shows the Steelers #21 is worth 800 points. If Seattle wants to move up, their #1 and 2027 #2 are worth around 800 points. That is just one example.

 

[Superman]

Oh, make no mistake, I am definitely not pushing for another year of Rodgers. The "crafty vet" strategy is another guaranteed mediocre season with no chance in the playoffs.

The Steelers need to look beyond the tip of their nose for once. Deal the #21 to drop down and get any number of players who are basically #20 to #40 picks in terms of talent and are almost identical as to likely NFL stardom, use that to get a #2 pick in the 2027 draft, and plan on using the #1 and #3 picks and the 2028 #1 to move up to a legit spot to get a franchise QB. No way around it.

By trading down and getting another #2 pick in the 2027 draft, the team still has a lot of draft capital to help the new QB. The draft value chart shows the Steelers #21 is worth 800 points. If Seattle wants to move up, their #1 and 2027 #2 are worth around 800 points. That is just one example.

when you trade down in the first, you do not want to trade out of the first.
first round contracts are a year longer than second rounders and so on.

regarding Mac Jones - he may be better than Will Howard right now. In fact, its not arguable. He is. He's seen playing time and has thrown passes in a game. Howard, as much as I'm hoping for the guy, simply has not.

ideally for a trade of Jones, there's someone at 21 the 49ers decide they cannot live without. Jones has a pretty easily movable contract and the 49ers have $30mil in cap space per overthecap.

They have these WRs:
Jordan Watkins (24), Malik Turner (30), Demarcus Robinson (31), Ricky Pearsall (25 and a gunshot hole), Christian Kirk (29), Mike Evans (32), Jacob Cowing (25), Junior Bergen (23) and Brandon Aiyuk (28 and like to be cut/released).

It's not far fetched to consider they may want to move up to snag KC Concepcion, Denzell Boston or Chris Bell.

The problem is that SF doesnt have a lot of draft capital to play with. 1.27, 2.58, 4.127, 4.133, 4.138, 4.139
Whereas we're at 1.21, 2.53, 3.76, 3.85, 3.99, 4.121, 4.135, 5.161, 6.216, 7. 224, 7.230, 7.237

I'd swap first round picks to get Mac Jones and SF throw in a pick, but SF may want to have a pick. At which I'd offer 5.161 and go as high as 4.121. Our first five picks should be held at a premium.