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Joey Porter Jr.............................. not dad

I think you have to look long and hard at trade offers. People remember how shity it was for Bell. He still got a great chunk of change. What did Pittsburgh get out of playing hardball?
In the end. Porter Jr. Waited for the market which anyone could see was gonna be hot. The Steelers chose to spend their money on bigs. I dint think they are paying 30 million on a Corner. And frankly I don't think they are a SB contender this year and certainly won't be for the next couple. Take the pick(s).
 
And that's delusional on his part. Those that perform the best get paid the most and he's simply not at the top of that list. The 6th to 10th best corner doesn't warrant the most money. Keep seeing articles stating that he can't decide if he'll play on Sunday.

Scam Heyward taught him well
The standard is the standard

Another reason why so few Steelers, and all NFL players, are really likable on a personal level. It’s ALL about the $$$.

Team loyalty
Winning
The fans that foot the bill

All distant after thoughts

Just show me the damn money, get me mine culture reigns supreme
 
Scam Heyward taught him well
The standard is the standard

Another reason why so few Steelers, and all NFL players, are really likable on a personal level. It’s ALL about the $$$.

Team loyalty
Winning
The fans that foot the bill

All distant after thoughts

Just show me the damn money, get me mine culture reigns supreme
I don't blame the players. They see the money the organizations are making...secure money with pretty much no risk...this isn't like other businesses where there is some chance of loss involved. Nobody wants to go see a bunch of owners or execs running around out there. The players know who fans are coming to see. Careers are so short, the NFL is such a greed machine, I'd take as much as I could get, too. We fans are the stupid ones. If we would stop going to games, stop buying the ticket, etc., then things might change.
 
I don't blame the players. They see the money the organizations are making...secure money with pretty much no risk...this isn't like other businesses where there is some chance of loss involved. Nobody wants to go see a bunch of owners or execs running around out there. The players know who fans are coming to see. Careers are so short, the NFL is such a greed machine, I'd take as much as I could get, too. We fans are the stupid ones. If we would stop going to games, stop buying the ticket, etc., then things might change.

They just aren’t likable like they used to be

I get that they are 100 about the $$$ 100% of the time, that is a personal decision so that imo they do get the blame for as far as being likable

I don’t begrudge them getting paid, but when it does become 100 about the $$$ 100% of the time that’s just a priority they set for themselves.

50 mill/100 mill/ 200 mill

You’re a dumbazz if ya can’t make 50 mill work, but it is what it is…greed culture reigns supreme at the expense of the fans and a league filled with very few likable players

Then pussify the product taboot

It’s a shame
 
The Steelers have been giving more guaranteed money than they used to. I can see $28 million per year for 4 years, with $60 million guaranteed. I hope they don't go higher than $30 million per. I also would not be upset if they got him for 5 years at $30 million per.
 
Scam Heyward taught him well
The standard is the standard

Another reason why so few Steelers, and all NFL players, are really likable on a personal level. It’s ALL about the $$$.

Team loyalty
Winning
The fans that foot the bill

All distant after thoughts

Just show me the damn money, get me mine culture reigns supreme



Ramsey as well, he had a contract issue with a prior team and hold out.

I understand the player / money relationship, sometimes there is barrier on what is claimed as self-worth and reality of pay.

There has to be middle ground and not just one side saying this is the amount, pay or I attempt a hostage situation.

I’ve said it all along, the Daddy isn’t helping the matter.





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The Steelers have been giving more guaranteed money than they used to. I can see $28 million per year for 4 years, with $60 million guaranteed. I hope they don't go higher than $30 million per. I also would not be upset if they got him for 5 years at $30 million per.


All good thoughts, but the guaranteed money will have to be higher.

$70-$90mil

Definitely need a 5th year option, roster and insentive based bonus’.




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I don't blame the players. They see the money the organizations are making...secure money with pretty much no risk...this isn't like other businesses where there is some chance of loss involved. Nobody wants to go see a bunch of owners or execs running around out there. The players know who fans are coming to see. Careers are so short, the NFL is such a greed machine, I'd take as much as I could get, too. We fans are the stupid ones. If we would stop going to games, stop buying the ticket, etc., then things might change.



One BIG boom would be revolking the “Anti-Trust” statis they so lovingly enjoy.

The dictatorship / monopoly / Greed Machine would develope cracks.

Teams would become more individualized in product.

This NFL Greed Machine has gotten way out of hand and to monopolized for the general FAN who has been bombarded with manipulation that this is the entertainment we need to survive the work week.





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One BIG boom would be revolking the “Anti-Trust” statis they so lovingly enjoy.

The dictatorship / monopoly / Greed Machine would develope cracks.

Teams would become more individualized in product.

This NFL Greed Machine has gotten way out of hand and to monopolized for the general FAN who has been bombarded with manipulation that this is the entertainment we need to survive the work week.





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What did Pogo say...We have met the enemy, and he is us. Because of the love of the game, the public is willing to shell out a significant portion of their hard-earned income just to watch a game in person or even on TV for that matter. A couple of grand to see the Chargers last year, and $400 for the privilege of watching the NFL on the tube this year. I don't begrudge players seeking the most they can get, we all do that at every annual evaluation at work, it's just that the numbers are significantly lower in our life's work.
 
The only $$ I spent on the NFL is the Sunday ticket. Not sure what to doth year I retire. I guess move to the Burg or miss some games.
I hope both sides realize they are better sticking together.
I still have yet to see anywhere where JP2 has said he wanted to be the highest paid CB.
Hopefully they are closer than it seems
 
All good thoughts, but the guaranteed money will have to be higher.

$70-$90mil

Definitely need a 5th year option, roster and insentive based bonus’.




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I agree he will want more guaranteed, but I hope they don't cave. Give him 2+ years guaranteed, and then maybe a roster bonus down the line.
 
The only $$ I spent on the NFL is the Sunday ticket. Not sure what to doth year I retire. I guess move to the Burg or miss some games.
I hope both sides realize they are better sticking together.
I still have yet to see anywhere where JP2 has said he wanted to be the highest paid CB.
Hopefully they are closer than it seems
I spend nothing on the NFL. Not to prove some point, though. Hobbies. And these 70-80 year old guys at the gun club are now selling off some of the stuff they collected over the years. And that is my weakness. So if it's between the NFL or that Winchester, the Winchester wins.
 
I have little doubt this will get done by Friday and that is what I expected all along. I think all the angst and gnashing of teeth by fans and mainly the media is all manufactured drama.
If they are not at the short strokes right now, what is your prognostication?
 
If they are not at the short strokes right now, what is your prognostication?
Pain. They could do it tomorrow it could still happen today or Joey will be forced to man up and play for his pay. They do have him by the short and curly’s.
 
One BIG boom would be revolking the “Anti-Trust” statis they so lovingly enjoy.

The dictatorship / monopoly / Greed Machine would develope cracks.

Teams would become more individualized in product.

This NFL Greed Machine has gotten way out of hand and to monopolized for the general FAN who has been bombarded with manipulation that this is the entertainment we need to survive the work week.





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With so many players making 50 million plus over their career and several making in the hundreds of millions you’d think they could easily band together and start a player funded league.

They certainly see all the money the owners are making
They certainly are also greedy
 
Pain. They could do it tomorrow it could still happen today or Joey will be forced to man up and play for his pay. They do have him by the short and curly’s.



I’d hope he realizes a hold out won’t garner much in his favor.

He has these options

1) come to terms with extension,

2) Play under current contract (he obligated to do so) and hope he doesn’t regress in level of play, hurting his eventual payday

3) Play lights out and really drive up his value, we are talking top 1 or 2 CB in the NFL. (I think this is very unlikely to happen)




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Pain. They could do it tomorrow it could still happen today or Joey will be forced to man up and play for his pay. They do have him by the short and curly’s.
I'm really annoyed that nothing happened yesterday and JPJ is really being a distraction now.

I'm trying to stay positive...
 
I'm really annoyed that nothing happened yesterday and JPJ is really being a distraction now.

I'm trying to stay positive...

They could have signed him before all the other CBs got their paydays, but had to pay Herbig, Benson, Pittman et. al. Omar has fumbled the ball on this one.
 
They could have signed him before all the other CBs got their paydays, but had to pay Herbig, Benson, Pittman et. al. Omar has fumbled the ball on this one.
How do you know he didn't want to see the market develop before signing a new deal? Would be foolish of him to do so
 
They could have signed him before all the other CBs got their paydays, but had to pay Herbig, Benson, Pittman et. al. Omar has fumbled the ball on this one.
That is a really big assumption. It is entirely possible that Joey didn’t want to sign before everyone else because he wanted to see what everyone else got it.
 
They could have signed him before all the other CBs got their paydays, but had to pay Herbig, Benson, Pittman et. al. Omar has fumbled the ball on this one.


JPJ would not have signed, he was waiting till the market showed itself.

It’s easy to say they should-have, but it takes his signature before they can.



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