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Steel Vanguard said:
Ok. So how about a tank? A howitzer? A homemade nuclear weapon?

All okay to keep and bear by Sarge's standards?
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Fun fact. The fun in Lexington & Concord started because the colonials wouldn't give up hidden cannons. By arms they meant weapons for war.
 
Everyone seems to forget that the 2nd was really put into place to provide for a ready defense, against our own Govt. as well as foreign invaders.

It is real easy to support gun control, as long as you believe that the Govt has you best interests at heart 110% of the time. I happen to believe they have only their own interests at heart, and a armed civilian population is the ONLY thing standing in their way.
 
MT~Forged said:
Everyone seems to forget that the 2nd was really put into place to provide for a ready defense, against our own Govt. as well as foreign invaders.

It is real easy to support gun control, as long as you believe that the Govt has you best interests at heart 110% of the time. I happen to believe they have only their own interests at heart, and a armed civilian population is the ONLY thing standing in their way.
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It's a great concept. But the reality will be Pooky and Lil Nuck Nuck shooting at each other across the playground with high explosive rounds. Many innocent bystanders will perish in the ensuing festival of shrapnel. Mass shootings and terrorist attacks will be FAR more deadly if high explosive ordnance becomes readily available. Have you considered this, and what is your solution to such an eventuality?
 
Steel Vanguard said:
Ok. So how about a tank? A howitzer? A homemade nuclear weapon?

All okay to keep and bear by Sarge's standards?
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Up to Nukes. TMBs are a strategic weapon. If me Ark and Supe weren't pacifists then we should be able to go in together on a 120mm mortar or field gun.

Again fixing the gun violence and most of the criminality problem can be solved really simply.

1 )Eliminate gun free zones.

2 )Stop paying women to have children out of wedlock. Gangs provide the structure that kids need in the absence of family structure.
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3 )End the drug war and remove the profit motive from what has given rise to gang violence.
 
Steel Vanguard said:
It's a great concept. But the reality will be Pooky and Lil Nuck Nuck shooting at each other across the playground with high explosive rounds. Many innocent bystanders will perish in the ensuing festival of shrapnel. Mass shootings and terrorist attacks will be FAR more deadly if high explosive ordnance becomes readily available. Have you considered this, and what is your solution to such an eventuality?
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are you aware that there is a black market for this stuff? are you aware that you can purchase "high explosive ordnance"?

but, instead, cling to your misguided fairy tale that anyone and everyone in office is looking out for YOUR best interest. These ******* make 2-3 times what the average constituent makes, and have no idea what it may be like to clip coupons out of the Sunday paper and make your shopping list around that so you can afford to pay the light bill.
 
Steel Vanguard said:
It's a great concept. But the reality will be Pooky and Lil Nuck Nuck shooting at each other across the playground with high explosive rounds. Many innocent bystanders will perish in the ensuing festival of shrapnel. Mass shootings and terrorist attacks will be FAR more deadly if high explosive ordnance becomes readily available. Have you considered this, and what is your solution to such an eventuality?
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I put Pooky and Lil Nuck Nuck back together after their autopsies the other day. A bullet doesn't make as big a hole in someone's head as you might think.
 
if Pooky and Lil Nuck Nuck aren't shooting up the ghetto, people like Burgundy wouldn't have jobs.
why do you want to stifle the economy?
 
Sarge said:
You don't draw a line on the second amendment. Next time you walk into a gun shop, and there is a RPG for sale, let me know.
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Just don't tell Mohammed, Kazeem and Abdul.
 
Troglodyte said:
Just don't tell Mohammed, Kazeem and Abdul.
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fine with me.
forbid anyone who follows Islam to own a gun or any type of firearm or "high explosive ordnance". excellent idea. what size "Trump 2016" shirt do you wear? we can make room on the bandwagon.
 
Steel Vanguard said:
I'm in the "keep and bear" camp. But I gotta ask a question here:

Where is the line? I say small arms. You really don't want to know what gang warfare looks like with RPGs and IEDs. So you gotta draw the line somewhere. Heavy weapons and explosives are only really useful in war zones, so I don't see much practical value to them in a peace time society. A machine gun is fine, but you wouldn't go full auto in a self defense situation anyway, you'd kill bystanders.

So where do you draw the line on the 2nd Amendment?
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In other words, you claim to be " in the keep and bear arms camp" but have no idea why.

Steel Vanguard said:
It's a great concept. But the reality will be Pooky and Lil Nuck Nuck shooting at each other across the playground with high explosive rounds. Many innocent bystanders will perish in the ensuing festival of shrapnel. Mass shootings and terrorist attacks will be FAR more deadly if high explosive ordnance becomes readily available. Have you considered this, and what is your solution to such an eventuality?
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Pooky? Lil Nuck Nuck? That's pretty racist. But my solution to this is one that has become cliche'.......you enforce the laws already in existence. Rather than injecting more illegal arms into society ala fast and furious, how about the almighty savior gubmint take the fucknut gangstas and their gats off the street? Some crazy, radical **** right there huh?
 
Superman said:
are you aware that there is a black market for this stuff? are you aware that you can purchase "high explosive ordnance"?

but, instead, cling to your misguided fairy tale that anyone and everyone in office is looking out for YOUR best interest. These ******* make 2-3 times what the average constituent makes, and have no idea what it may be like to clip coupons out of the Sunday paper and make your shopping list around that so you can afford to pay the light bill.
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Yeah, I can't figure out why people think that gangs can't get these now. My guess is that, for regular inner city gangs, the cost is prohibitive. I havent tried to buy an rpg lately, so I don't know.

It may also be that, even the worst gang knows, they do that **** and the gloves are off.
 
IndySteel said:
They didn't use hollow points?
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Apparently not. That was my first thought. I suspect that the ghetto uses cheap ammo and favors quantity over quality. The other guy was shot three times in the neck and the grouping was excellent.

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I carry hollow points.
 
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Rod Farva said:
In other words, you claim to be " in the keep and bear arms camp" but have no idea why.

Pooky? Lil Nuck Nuck? That's pretty racist. But my solution to this is one that has become cliche'.......you enforce the laws already in existence. Rather than injecting more illegal arms into society ala fast and furious, how about the almighty savior gubmint take the fucknut gangstas and their gats off the street? Some crazy, radical **** right there huh?
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Two words. Disparate Results.
 
Oh also....Vanguard I forgot you mentioned IED's.....you do know what that stands for right? "Improvised" explosive device.......should we ban everything that can be made to explode or cause an explosion? 'Cause that'd be a looooooooooong list.
 
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Vanguard's another lost Liberal. I've said this before, and others have as well, and we'll repeat it again, to stop DemocRATs from trying to change the playing field, as they are so prone to do.

The 2nd Amendment isn't about hunting, it's to allow us to protect ourselves from a tyrannical government. When it was written, our Government's military had muskets and cannons. And guess what Cochise, the 2nd Amendment allowed citizens to have them too for their own protection against the Government.

Fast forward to today. Our military has tanks, laser guided bombs, warships, etc. If I can afford and have storage for and know how to operate a tank, I should have the right to own one. IT IS A CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT and it protects you and me.

I'm far, far, far, far, far more afraid of my Government than I am some random street thug.
 
Superman said:
fine with me.
forbid anyone who follows Islam to own a gun or any type of firearm or "high explosive ordnance". excellent idea. what size "Trump 2016" shirt do you wear? we can make room on the bandwagon.
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So the 1st amendment is a bunch of nonsense, but the 2nd amendment is sacred?
 
Rod Farva said:
Incorrect. What will it take for people to recognize islam for that which it is? It is much less a "religion" than it is a fascist, controlling, hate fueled system of governance disguised as a religion.
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So the 2nd amendment applies to any and all arms, but the 1st amendment only applies to some religions?
 
Troglodyte said:
So the 1st amendment is a bunch of nonsense, but the 2nd amendment is sacred?
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did I say that?
I'm just asking you what size t-shirt you want.
 
Troglodyte said:
So the 2nd amendment applies to any and all arms, but the 1st amendment only applies to some religions?
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if we were to hear any Christian wanting the complete and total annihilation and destruction of America and the deaths of ALL Americans (not just those who lean towards Conservative), then the 1st Amendment would be repealed faster than you could fap to Charlize Theron getting it on with Kate Beckinsale.
 
Wait... what about Charlize Theron and Kate Beckinsale?
 
don't bring Stainless into this thread.
 
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