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Tomlin Looking ahead to Pats!

MT had better be looking ahead to the Pats*****. Back when Colbert said he didn't draft specific players to beat one team I knew he was full of **** but he couldn't admit it.

OTOH, that faint heavy breathing you hear is coming from Tom Brady up in Foxboro jacking off while watching the Steeler D against the Packers' rookie QB.

please never post this phrase again.
 
please never post this phrase again.

Playing our defense is going to feel better than sex with Giselle. Our only hope is for Bell and Connor to have a good day, chew clock, and keep him off the field.
 
Playing our defense is going to feel better than sex with Giselle. Our only hope is for Bell and Connor to have a good day, chew clock, and keep him off the field.

I would rather see Ben go no huddle. It still eats up the clock and it seems our offense runs smoother. A lot smoother.
 
God you guys can speculate lol

Of course we'll never know whatTomlin said. But What fun is being a fan if we can't jump to conclusions? Anyways, I used to be one who was on the Mitchell bandwagon. However, I've about had my share of watching him trip over white lines on the football field causing him to miss a tackle, take worse angles to a ball carrier than a high schooler, his the driving his feet on a running back after the play is dead and the rb picked up 9 yards, his lapses in coverage, and, of course, the big mouth act after making a routine play 10+ yards down the field. He may be a good guy and all that jazz, which does count for a little something, but he hasn't proven to be a good safety. He looked downright silly on the long touchdown pass outta the half last night, just as he did on one vs the Colts. We need a replacement for Mitchell. There's no two-ways about that.
 
But Belichick can wear a 6 rings sweater after the game yesterday and not a peep.
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If you did some research this was the name of his boat. Its actually called "VII Rings" now because he was involved in 7 SBs.
 
Of course we'll never know whatTomlin said. But What fun is being a fan if we can't jump to conclusions? Anyways, I used to be one who was on the Mitchell bandwagon. However, I've about had my share of watching him trip over white lines on the football field causing him to miss a tackle, take worse angles to a ball carrier than a high schooler, his the driving his feet on a running back after the play is dead and the rb picked up 9 yards, his lapses in coverage, and, of course, the big mouth act after making a routine play 10+ yards down the field. He may be a good guy and all that jazz, which does count for a little something, but he hasn't proven to be a good safety. He looked downright silly on the long touchdown pass outta the half last night, just as he did on one vs the Colts. We need a replacement for Mitchell. There's no two-ways about that.

Ledyard: From Busts To Blasts, Another Steelers WinJon Ledyard - 4 hours ago2

Chris Boswell mobbed by teammates after kicking game-winner. (Photo: Charles LeClaire, USA TODAY Sports)



Let’s start with the bad - the blown coverages. The Steelers' secondary has been an unmitigated disaster giving up chunk vertical passing plays the past three weeks, and it almost undid them yet again Sunday night. The issue is rarely with the safeties, instead coming on poor schematics or outside cornerback play. Don’t fall into the lazy narrative of thinking that big passing plays are always on the safeties. That’s rarely been the case this season

The first touchdown came on a post-wheel combination from Green Bay, with the outside receiver running a post pattern to the middle of the field while the slot runs the wheel down the sideline. The Steelers are simply running basic Cover 3, with Mike Mitchell occupying deep middle of the field as the single high safety and Artie Burns charged with the outside third.

But instead Burns bit inside hard on the post, which he should carry to Mitchell and then work back on top of the wheel. This one isn’t even close, though, as Burns completely abandoned his assigned area and left the wheel route unoccupied for a touchdown. Having coached high school football, I can definitively say this is something you learn at the beginner level of Cover 3, and yet it isn’t the first time Burns has messed it up. Last year against Miami, Jarvis Landry ran the wheel route and Burns blew the coverage, resulting in a big pass play to set up a Dolphins score. Combine these consistent failures with Burns’ penalties and missed tackles and I think we’re all hoping Cameron Sutton shows something soon to start pushing Burns for playing time.
 
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Captain Obvious comment, NE isn't the next game on the schedule.........focus on that, and not get distracted with the hype that the **ts bring.
 
We are obsessed with the Patriots, in the same way the Bengals are obsessed with us. It's not a good look. Get them out of our head. **** em'


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If you did some research this was the name of his boat. Its actually called "VII Rings" now because he was involved in 7 SBs.

So f'n what? He wore the shirt Sunday...he does everything for effect.


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Ledyard: From Busts To Blasts, Another Steelers WinJon Ledyard - 4 hours ago2

Chris Boswell mobbed by teammates after kicking game-winner. (Photo: Charles LeClaire, USA TODAY Sports)



Let’s start with the bad - the blown coverages. The Steelers' secondary has been an unmitigated disaster giving up chunk vertical passing plays the past three weeks, and it almost undid them yet again Sunday night. The issue is rarely with the safeties, instead coming on poor schematics or outside cornerback play. Don’t fall into the lazy narrative of thinking that big passing plays are always on the safeties. That’s rarely been the case this season

The first touchdown came on a post-wheel combination from Green Bay, with the outside receiver running a post pattern to the middle of the field while the slot runs the wheel down the sideline. The Steelers are simply running basic Cover 3, with Mike Mitchell occupying deep middle of the field as the single high safety and Artie Burns charged with the outside third.

But instead Burns bit inside hard on the post, which he should carry to Mitchell and then work back on top of the wheel. This one isn’t even close, though, as Burns completely abandoned his assigned area and left the wheel route unoccupied for a touchdown. Having coached high school football, I can definitively say this is something you learn at the beginner level of Cover 3, and yet it isn’t the first time Burns has messed it up. Last year against Miami, Jarvis Landry ran the wheel route and Burns blew the coverage, resulting in a big pass play to set up a Dolphins score. Combine these consistent failures with Burns’ penalties and missed tackles and I think we’re all hoping Cameron Sutton shows something soon to start pushing Burns for playing time.

I do agree that Burns was the most to blame on that misidentified wheel route. I also played Free Safety, and I will tell you one thing. When I had deep 1/3 responsibility, I looked at the alignment pre-snap. They had 2WRs, and TE, and a RB (4 players) lined up to Mitchell's right, but he lines up the play on the left hash with one WR, directly over center. I would have at least lined up between the hashes, though I probably would have cheated to the opposite hash, because in all likelihood, this play was designed to go to the defenses right, due to the receiver overload. Also it is smart to line up in the center of the field anyway on deep 3rds, otherwise you are giving positioning to 4 players on the wider portion of the field, which you should never do with a receiver overload. That was the issue I had with Mitchell on that play in the game thread, not the fact that he wasn't in the play, but he could have helped his D with smarter positioning, and a player that is playing at 75% speed, needs all the positioning help they can to make plays.

This shows what I mean by seeing where Mitchell lined up on the play: http://www.Invalid Link - Check SN ...m-room-breaking-burns-sensabaughs-breakdowns/

The Sensabaugh TD was definitely his fault as well. No way that catch should have gone for a TD, and a healthy Mitchell makes that tackle 9/10 times. With poor COD playing injured, he is nowhere near making a play on that TD, even though he had deep help
 
I do agree that Burns was the most to blame on that misidentified wheel route. I also played Free Safety, and I will tell you one thing. When I had deep 1/3 responsibility, I looked at the alignment pre-snap. They had 2WRs, and TE, and a RB (4 players) lined up to Mitchell's right, but he lines up the play on the left hash with one WR, directly over center. I would have at least lined up between the hashes, though I probably would have cheated to the opposite hash, because in all likelihood, this play was designed to go to the defenses right, due to the receiver overload. Also it is smart to line up in the center of the field anyway on deep 3rds, otherwise you are giving positioning to 4 players on the wider portion of the field, which you should never do with a receiver overload. That was the issue I had with Mitchell on that play in the game thread, not the fact that he wasn't in the play, but he could have helped his D with smarter positioning, and a player that is playing at 75% speed, needs all the positioning help they can to make plays.

This shows what I mean by seeing where Mitchell lined up on the play: http://www.Invalid Link - Check SN ...m-room-breaking-burns-sensabaughs-breakdowns/

The Sensabaugh TD was definitely his fault as well. No way that catch should have gone for a TD, and a healthy Mitchell makes that tackle 9/10 times. With poor COD playing injured, he is nowhere near making a play on that TD, even though he had deep help

In cover three the post route was Mitchell's man. He had to honor that route it was in his responsibility. On the Sensabaugh play yes he needs to get him on the ground but thats a tough play. The WR has a two way go. Not an easy play..
 
In cover three the post route was Mitchell's man. He had to honor that route it was in his responsibility. On the Sensabaugh play yes he needs to get him on the ground but thats a tough play. The WR has a two way go. Not an easy play..

True the post was Mitchell's, and he did recognize that Burns ****** up and tried to cross him to get to the wheel route. My point is, if he lined up on the other hash, he could have made the tackle on that recognition. I don't blame the result of Burns' mistake on Mitchell, I'm only stating that better positioning could have helped prevent the TD.
 
Just garbage play all around, specifically by Artie. If Artie makes the switch, the post route wr comes right to Mitchell. I can see where Cope is coming from though, there's only one wr on our Ds left and we have 3 guys dropping in coverage on that side, no reason to line up in Center field, when the right side of our D is flooded with pass catchers.

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True the post was Mitchell's, and he did recognize that Burns ****** up and tried to cross him to get to the wheel route. My point is, if he lined up on the other hash, he could have made the tackle on that recognition. I don't blame the result of Burns' mistake on Mitchell, I'm only stating that better positioning could have helped prevent the TD.

I think the TE on the other side made him line up more in the middle. There really wasnt a strong side.
 
Man all anyone has to do around here is say NE and its like the boogeyman popped his head out of the closet. Simmer the **** down already
 
Ledyard: From Busts To Blasts, Another Steelers WinJon Ledyard - 4 hours ago2

Chris Boswell mobbed by teammates after kicking game-winner. (Photo: Charles LeClaire, USA TODAY Sports)



Let’s start with the bad - the blown coverages. The Steelers' secondary has been an unmitigated disaster giving up chunk vertical passing plays the past three weeks, and it almost undid them yet again Sunday night. The issue is rarely with the safeties, instead coming on poor schematics or outside cornerback play. Don’t fall into the lazy narrative of thinking that big passing plays are always on the safeties. That’s rarely been the case this season

The first touchdown came on a post-wheel combination from Green Bay, with the outside receiver running a post pattern to the middle of the field while the slot runs the wheel down the sideline. The Steelers are simply running basic Cover 3, with Mike Mitchell occupying deep middle of the field as the single high safety and Artie Burns charged with the outside third.

But instead Burns bit inside hard on the post, which he should carry to Mitchell and then work back on top of the wheel. This one isn’t even close, though, as Burns completely abandoned his assigned area and left the wheel route unoccupied for a touchdown. Having coached high school football, I can definitively say this is something you learn at the beginner level of Cover 3, and yet it isn’t the first time Burns has messed it up. Last year against Miami, Jarvis Landry ran the wheel route and Burns blew the coverage, resulting in a big pass play to set up a Dolphins score. Combine these consistent failures with Burns’ penalties and missed tackles and I think we’re all hoping Cameron Sutton shows something soon to start pushing Burns for playing time.

That play specifically, Mitchell doesn't bare the burden for the blown coverage. The play later in the game, in the 3rd quarter where Sensabaugh was toasted, was the one I was referring. And it still wasn't he who blew the assignment; Sensabaugh bit hard. What pissed me off was his flailing around, attempting to make a tackle. Still long play, sure. However, it prevents a touchdown at that point. It wasn't an isolated incident either, as against the Colts, he looked the same damn way when Hilton was burned. His over-running th screen play was a joke too. Him and Davis both looked silly. All this is not new for Mitchell either. It's these reasons why fans tire seeing him beat his chest when he makes a routine play, because he fails at other times.
 
I think the TE on the other side made him line up more in the middle. There really wasnt a strong side.

Where the TE lines up, determines the strong side. TE was to Mitchell's right, along with 2 WRs and a RB in the sidecar. He lined up on the left hash. That extra 15 yards, presnap, could have made a difference in making a play to his right.
 
Where the TE lines up, determines the strong side. TE was to Mitchell's right, along with 2 WRs and a RB in the sidecar. He lined up on the left hash. That extra 15 yards, presnap, could have made a difference in making a play to his right.

Your right Cope..looking at the wrong player TE was to the right.. yeah he should of been on the right hash. Not sure why he wouldn't be off that Formation in cover 3
 
Only thing i think of is not trying to show the defense too early
 
Your right Cope..looking at the wrong player TE was to the right.. yeah he should of been on the right hash. Not sure why he wouldn't be off that Formation in cover 3

He did have deep 3rd, so he lined up directly in line from the center, which I am sure he is used to doing when having deep 3rd responsibility. I'm just surprised he didn't notice the overload and cheat right.
 
If you did some research this was the name of his boat. Its actually called "VII Rings" now because he was involved in 7 SBs.

Research? Excuse me while I vomit.
 
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