A Wow Report on Rudolph

[Sevenisheaven]

Eyes, feet, anticipation, intelligence .......why there has been a serious decline on QB evaluation in the last five years I have no idea. Josh Allen is the exact opposite of Rudolph. Allen can throw far and fast but is extremely inaccurate. You should see the write up on Allen. He can't stop making fun of how bad he is. Think about Brady, Brees, and Manning......none of them had the arm Allen has. Hell Brady looked like the kid who was beat up by bullies in high school. He had the physique of the biggest ***** ever. But what they could do was set their feet right, scan the field with their eyes diagnosing defenses, anticipating their receivers, and throwing it where the receiver needed it and where the Dback couldn't get to it. Look at half of Manning's balls......they were wobbly ugky ******* balls but they went to the right receiver and where they needed to be. Go look at Rodgers draft profile.....they said he was a system QB and too short but look at his stats. In the game against USC (led by Leinart and Bush where USC was undefeated and the defending national champs) he was 29 of 34 and completed ******* 23 passes in a row against the number one team. No one ever said he wasn't supremely accurate or that he couldn't make all the throws. They look at his size and the system he was in and they decided Smith was the better QB because of Smith's arm strength and size. Look how that turned out.

Mason does the most important things right and does them exceptionally well. In the end the things he does well will matter much more than what the QBs drafted ahead of him do well. He will end up being the best QB in the draft and Allen will never complete 60% of his passes in any year he plays professional football. He will end up being a worse Blake Bortles and will be one of the biggest busts in the NFL. Darnold will throw 5,000 interceptions and get booed in NY, Mayfield will be pretty good, and Jackson will get injured a lot and be wildly inconsistent. Jackson will have a Vick like game where he is Good and then have a stinker. Risen will be good but be a head case and demand a trade and have the personality of Jeff George or Jay Cutler.

We got a steal. He does the things well that Ben never has consistently done well. He's no Ben in the ways Ben is great. He's an utterly different QB than Bell. There will be times he gets sacked or throws a weak ball and you'll say Ben would have made a play there. There will be other times where he makes a perfect throw and you'll say wow Ben struggled there. The kid is going to be good. He will need a really good line. He won't be able to accomplish what Ben did when his line stunk or was average. But give Mason time and he will be more accurate

 

[stillwright]

We don’t know that for sure. It’s speculation on people’s part. They certainly won’t be drinking a beer together but I just won’t go that far to say it was him or me.


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I think you can say it was Ben who got rid of Haley. Our Offense threw up some big numbers since Haley was here. Haley isn't here now. He didn't retire. He wasn't resigned. We promoted our QB coach(who has a great relationship with Ben) to run basically the same Offense. Sure he will throw in his own wrinkles here and there, but it will be basically the same exact Offense. Just connect the dots like everyone else has. You will see it also I promise.

 

[stillwright]

Eyes, feet, anticipation, intelligence .......why there has been a serious decline on QB evaluation in the last five years I have no idea. Josh Allen is the exact opposite of Rudolph. Allen can throw far and fast but is extremely inaccurate. You should see the write up on Allen. He can't stop making fun of how bad he is. Think about Brady, Brees, and Manning......none of them had the arm Allen has. Hell Brady looked like the kid who was beat up by bullies in high school. He had the physique of the biggest ***** ever. But what they could do was set their feet right, scan the field with their eyes diagnosing defenses, anticipating their receivers, and throwing it where the receiver needed it and where the Dback couldn't get to it. Look at half of Manning's balls......they were wobbly ugky ******* balls but they went to the right receiver and where they needed to be. Go look at Rodgers draft profile.....they said he was a system QB and too short but look at his stats. In the game against USC (led by Leinart and Bush where USC was undefeated and the defending national champs) he was 29 of 34 and completed ******* 23 passes in a row against the number one team. No one ever said he wasn't supremely accurate or that he couldn't make all the throws. They look at his size and the system he was in and they decided Smith was the better QB because of Smith's arm strength and size. Look how that turned out.

Mason does the most important things right and does them exceptionally well. In the end the things he does well will matter much more than what the QBs drafted ahead of him do well. He will end up being the best QB in the draft and Allen will never complete 60% of his passes in any year he plays professional football. He will end up being a worse Blake Bortles and will be one of the biggest busts in the NFL. Darnold will throw 5,000 interceptions and get booed in NY, Mayfield will be pretty good, and Jackson will get injured a lot and be wildly inconsistent. Jackson will have a Vick like game where he is Good and then have a stinker. Risen will be good but be a head case and demand a trade and have the personality of Jeff George or Jay Cutler.

We got a steal. He does the things well that Ben never has consistently done well. He's no Ben in the ways Ben is great. He's an utterly different QB than Bell. There will be times he gets sacked or throws a weak ball and you'll say Ben would have made a play there. There will be other times where he makes a perfect throw and you'll say wow Ben struggled there. The kid is going to be good. He will need a really good line. He won't be able to accomplish what Ben did when his line stunk or was average. But give Mason time and he will be more accurate

The only thing I got from your post was.....**** Brady..Sorry. Seriously though. I Mason was the QB I wanted and we got him in the 3rd round. Nice.

 

[Stryker]

Rosen = Kyle Boller. Remember him? First rounder. So strong he could throw the football through the uprights at 50 yards on one knee??

Ravens wasted a first on him and he sucked because he was inaccurate and couldn't read an NFL D.

I will always take a QB with accuracy and touch over arm strength any day!

 

[ianv2012]

Rosen = Kyle Boller. Remember him? First rounder. So strong he could throw the football through the uprights at 50 yards on one knee??

Ravens wasted a first on him and he sucked because he was inaccurate and couldn't read an NFL D.

I will always take a QB with accuracy and touch over arm strength any day!

Accuracy isn't Rosen's issue, it's Allen's. Rosen is an accurate pocket passer, Allen is the big arm that is more like Kyle Boller. Rosen is a head case with personality quirks

 

[slashsteel]

Accuracy isn't Rosen's issue, it's Allen's. Rosen is an accurate pocket passer, Allen is the big arm that is more like Kyle Boller. Rosen is a head case with personality quirks

Mixed up the two QBs a few times. How dare they have the same first name.

 

[Ike Kelly]

I think Ben already knows what his plan is, namely in the next couple years if he wins another championship, he’s retiring.


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[ZonaBurgh]

I think you can say it was Ben who got rid of Haley. Our Offense threw up some big numbers since Haley was here. Haley isn't here now. He didn't retire. He wasn't resigned. We promoted our QB coach(who has a great relationship with Ben) to run basically the same Offense. Sure he will throw in his own wrinkles here and there, but it will be basically the same exact Offense. Just connect the dots like everyone else has. You will see it also I promise.

Like a QB sneak maybe?

 

[tapeANaspirin2it]

If he's a first round talent, why didn't anyone else jump on him before us? Maybe he will be really good, maybe not, hell Landry Jones is #3 all time in passing yards in D1 history.

I guarantee Ben has told the FO his plans, and if he plans to call it quits after this season then I'm all in in this pick. If he plans on playing another 3 seasons then I think it's a wasted pick and shouldve looked at someone that could help us asap.

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If Rudolph develops into a quality QB then in 3 years the steelers have a choice, the move on from Ben and go with Rudolph like the 49ers did with Young and the Pack did with Rodgers, or they decide to trade Rudolph and keep riding with Ben until the wheels fall off like the Pats decided to do with Brady.

I was against the Landry Jones pick because i didn't think he was that good at Oklahoma. He was a product of a system. Oklahoma was built on quick throws, so Landry rarely went downfield or went through reads. It was all pitch and catch and WRs getting lots of RAC. That has been the problem with so many of the spread QBs.

I think Rudolph is different. It's not that the OK State offense was super complicated, but it has NFL throws in it because there were so many vertical throws downfield. Rudolph also has shown anticipation and great awareness of ball placement to protect his WRs and lead them away from big hits.

The biggest thing i like with Rudolph is that he will throw into tight windows when necessary. So many college QBs won't throw to a WR if they aren't wide open. Rudolph understands that if his WR has a step, he's open if the QB makes an accurate throw.

If you watch the Video of his TD throws to Washington, sure there are some where he's wide open, but there are a bunch where he's only open by a step and Rudolph puts the ball in a perfect spot where Washington can make a play. That's what it's about in the NFL.

AB isn't always open when Ben releases the ball. Ben just sees if AB has favorable coverage and throws to a spot where he knows AB can win on the ball.

This is also what i like so much about Washington. He is already used to making contested catches. So many college WRs are used to only getting free releases and then catching balls with nobody near them. The NFL means getting off a bump and catching the ball with a guy in your face. Washington does that.

 

[AggieSteel]

If Rudolph develops into a quality QB then in 3 years the steelers have a choice, the move on from Ben and go with Rudolph like the 49ers did with Young and the Pack did with Rodgers, or they decide to trade Rudolph and keep riding with Ben until the wheels fall off like the Pats decided to do with Brady.

I was against the Landry Jones pick because i didn't think he was that good at Oklahoma. He was a product of a system. Oklahoma was built on quick throws, so Landry rarely went downfield or went through reads. It was all pitch and catch and WRs getting lots of RAC. That has been the problem with so many of the spread QBs.

I think Rudolph is different. It's not that the OK State offense was super complicated, but it has NFL throws in it because there were so many vertical throws downfield. Rudolph also has shown anticipation and great awareness of ball placement to protect his WRs and lead them away from big hits.

The biggest thing i like with Rudolph is that he will throw into tight windows when necessary. So many college QBs won't throw to a WR if they aren't wide open. Rudolph understands that if his WR has a step, he's open if the QB makes an accurate throw.

If you watch the Video of his TD throws to Washington, sure there are some where he's wide open, but there are a bunch where he's only open by a step and Rudolph puts the ball in a perfect spot where Washington can make a play. That's what it's about in the NFL.

AB isn't always open when Ben releases the ball. Ben just sees if AB has favorable coverage and throws to a spot where he knows AB can win on the ball.

This is also what i like so much about Washington. He is already used to making contested catches. So many college WRs are used to only getting free releases and then catching balls with nobody near them. The NFL means getting off a bump and catching the ball with a guy in your face. Washington does that.

This is exactly why I like Rudolph as well. Would try to add but you said it all