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Because I figured there should be one here.

Why is this such a bigger deal then the flu?
 
I really ****** up the title of this thread. Sorry about that.
 
Nothing to worry about as super-smart genius, always forthright & honest Trump has handed over the baton to world-renowed scientist, pandemic virus expert VP Mike Pence to handle.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">At the Coronavirus press conference, Trump contradicted scientists just seconds after they’d spoken.<br><br>CDC: It’s only a matter of time until the disease spreads in America.<br><br>Trump: I don’t think so, and no one knows more about infectious diseases than I do.<a href="https://t.co/wtmot3QtBz">https://t.co/wtmot3QtBz</a></p>— Dr. David A. Lustig (@drdave1999) <a href="https://twitter.com/drdave1999/status/1233013791534800897?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 27, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Fears grow of a coronavirus pandemic as markets stumble again
https://www.washingtonpost.com/worl...live-updates/#link-CMIRHGDM2VB7TBLIOH7IRBG7YE
Dow futures were down roughly 300 points, about 1 percent, around 7 a.m. The Standard & Poor’s 500 index and Nasdaq composites were both down roughly 1 percent. The Dow has lost more than 2,000 points this week alone and is down 8 percent from its Feb. 12 record high.

“Since setting an all-time high on Feb. 19, the S&P 500 has exhibited the glide path of a crow bar by dropping 8 percent in only five trading days,” said Sam Stovall of CFRA Research. “Cascading concerns over the spread of the coronavirus pandemic, combined with the apparently inappropriate level of concern and response by U.S. authorities, is adding pressure to today’s premarket activity.”

The outbreak has been met with inconsistent messaging from the Trump administration. President Trump is highly concerned about the stock market and is urging aides not to discuss the outbreak in ways that could rattle the economy further. Late Monday, top White House economic adviser Larry Kudlow said investors should consider “buying these dips” in the market.
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">BREAKING: President Trump calls a press conference to assure the American people that the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Coronavirus?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Coronavirus</a> has been completely contained, and that there is no legitimate threat to any Americans.<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/CoronavirusOutbreak?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#CoronavirusOutbreak</a> <a href="https://t.co/7DJa9rOiYX">pic.twitter.com/7DJa9rOiYX</a></p>— Paul Lidicul (@PaulLidicul) <a href="https://twitter.com/PaulLidicul/status/1232521315254292480?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 26, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

I hope local city and State goverments can get ahead of the curve on this. Situation is probably worse then what it seems on the surface, as is usually the case. Hope everyone stays safe and this thing remains manageable.
 
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About a month and a half into this thing, this graph puts it into some perspective, relative to Ebola, SARS etc.

<samp class="EmbedCode-container"><code class="EmbedCode-code"><blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Graph shows the exponential and dangerous growth of corona virus compared to other major viruses such as Ebola and SARS.<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Corona?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Corona</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/CoronaVirus?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#CoronaVirus</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/CoronaOutbreak?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#CoronaOutbreak</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/ChinaVirus?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#ChinaVirus</a> <a href="https://t.co/QOco1JQDf5">pic.twitter.com/QOco1JQDf5</a></p>— Farhang F. Namdar (@FarhangNamdar) <a href="https://twitter.com/FarhangNamdar/status/1230554753182003203?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 20, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script> </code></samp>

Probably the most concerning about this particular strain of virus, is not everyone shows symptoms who contract it. So they may have the virus, but not have fever or show other symptoms, thus not go to doctor and get tested, and continue to transmit it to others who have weaker immune systems, who then contract it and get sick. The fact it's highly contagious is also clear from the graph above. We're probably more than a year away from any type of vaccine for this, so it will be a challenge to keep it from spreading, ie public transport, points of entry, social gatherings, etc.

What's happening in and around Milan, Italy is pretty scary, as it spread so quickly. And thousands travel to and from Italy on a daily basis, so that's a pretty big concern right now on this side of the pond.
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all that said, Tibs, the gubmint has placed a "Level 4" travel ban on traveling to China. you know, since people coming from there can kill people here if they have that virus.

why no gnashing of teeth and wringing of hands over this ban?

https://travel.state.gov/content/tr...s/traveladvisories/china-travel-advisory.html

Travel Advisory
February 2, 2020
China - Level 4: Do Not Travel

Do not travel to China due to the novel coronavirus first identified in Wuhan, China. On January 30, the World Health Organization (WHO) determined the rapidly spreading outbreak constitutes a Public Health Emergency of International Concern (PHEIC). Travelers should be prepared for the possibility of travel restrictions with little or no advance notice. Most commercial air carriers have reduced or suspended routes to and from China.

Those currently in China should attempt to depart by commercial means. U.S. citizens remaining in China should follow the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) and Chinese health authorities’ guidance for prevention, signs and symptoms, and treatment. We strongly urge U.S. citizens remaining in China to stay home as much as possible and limit contact with others, including large gatherings. Consider stocking up on food and other supplies to limit movement outside the home. In the event that the situation deteriorates further, the ability of the U.S. Embassy and Consulates to provide assistance to U.S. nationals within China may be limited.

In an effort to contain the novel coronavirus, the Chinese authorities have suspended air, road, and rail travel in the area around Wuhan and placed restrictions on travel and other activities throughout the country. On January 23, 2020, the Department of State ordered the departure of all non-emergency U.S. personnel and their family members from Wuhan. On January 29, 2020, the Department of State allowed for the voluntary departure of non-emergency personnel and family members of U.S. government employees from China. On January 31, 2020, the Department of State ordered the departure of all family members under age 21 of U.S. personnel in China.

The U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) has issued a warning for all of China. The CDC has published suggestions on how to reduce your risk of contracting the Novel Coronavirus. Visit the CDC webpage for expanded information about the Novel Coronavirus, including prevention, signs and symptoms, and treatment.
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Superman said:
..the gubmint has placed a "Level 4" travel ban on traveling to China.
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We can anticipate further restrictions on travel globally, with intense screenings at airports and ports of entry. The fact so many people were able to move in and out of Italy past two weeks pretty much unchecked - including to sporting events, an IT conference in Milan, etc. - is very concerning.
 
Close our borders to ALL Asians! No more passenger fights from anywhere in Asia!



Tulsi Gabbard calls for suspension of Japan, South Korea flights amid coronavirus fears

U.S. Rep. Tulsi Gabbard is calling for a suspension of flights to Hawaii from South Korea and Japan amid growing concerns about the coronavirus. “It is irresponsible for our leaders to endanger the health and well-being of Hawaii’s people by continuing to allow travel from Japan and South Korea," Gabbard said, in a statement.

https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2020/...ulu-to-seoul-route-amid-coronavirus-outbreak/

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All Muslims in American must shave off their beards by order of the government, it's for our protection!

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No more burkahs either. Or hijabs, whatever the **** it is those terrorists wear.
 
Preppers will survive!


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I think Trump and the right wingers will run away with this thing. We can rest easy, we're in good hands.

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</code></samp><samp class="EmbedCode-container"><code class="EmbedCode-code"><blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Mike Pence, the man trump put in charge of <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/coronavirususa?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#coronavirususa</a> wipes his nose with his hand and then shakes others hands. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/COVID19?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#COVID19</a> <a href="https://t.co/79rvBFuj3r">https://t.co/79rvBFuj3r</a></p>— C. Salina Harris (@C_SalinaH) <a href="https://twitter.com/C_SalinaH/status/1232998295963873285?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 27, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

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Tibs said:
I think Trump and the right wingers will run away with this thing. We can rest easy, we're in good hands.

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Can every damn thing not be vs Trump. Ya'll guys just cant help yourself. You would think the public's safety would Trump your hate for the POTUS.

All the lefties mouths are watering now, maybe a bunch of Americans will die, and we can blame this **** on Trump, Couple of weeks ago you were bitching about him banning travel from infected countries, now he isn't doing enough. That is how ****** up you people have gotten with your TDS.
 
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The Dow just fell another 500 points. Looks like Wall Street loves the fact that Trump appointed Mike Pence to handle the Corona Virus. Now that's how you send a message and get ahead of a problem.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">DEVELOPING: Dow opens down more than 500 points Thursday amid continued coronavirus concerns; Dow now down more than 2,500 points on the week.<br><br>Latest: <a href="https://t.co/7kR3VBfMfB">https://t.co/7kR3VBfMfB</a> <a href="https://t.co/oJ6G5uhjeQ">pic.twitter.com/oJ6G5uhjeQ</a></p>— NBC News (@NBCNews) <a href="https://twitter.com/NBCNews/status/1233041780888809474?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 27, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
 
Tibs said:
The Dow just fell another 500 points. Looks like Wall Street loves the fact that Trump appointed Mike Pence to handle the Corona Virus. Now that's how you send a message and get ahead of a problem.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">DEVELOPING: Dow opens down more than 500 points Thursday amid continued coronavirus concerns; Dow now down more than 2,500 points on the week.<br><br>Latest: <a href="https://t.co/7kR3VBfMfB">https://t.co/7kR3VBfMfB</a> <a href="https://t.co/oJ6G5uhjeQ">pic.twitter.com/oJ6G5uhjeQ</a></p>— NBC News (@NBCNews) <a href="https://twitter.com/NBCNews/status/1233041780888809474?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 27, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
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Nice try dumbass, it has been falling for days since the scare of the virus. Days before Pence was announced. You are so ******* desperate.
 
SCSteeler4life said:
Can every damn thing not be vs Trump.
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Try not being such a Trump sycophant for a few minutes - I know it's an impossible request - and try to understand the realities on the ground. Read this and tell me you feel comfortable where we're at. In his mad rush to clear out the 'deep state' and eliminate regulations, he's suceeded in significantly cutting the government's ability to respond to a potential crisis like this.

Trump Has Sabotaged America’s Coronavirus Response
https://foreignpolicy.com/2020/01/31/coronavirus-china-trump-united-states-public-health-emergency-response/

As it improvises its way through a public health crisis, the United States has never been less prepared for a pandemic.

For the United States, the answers are especially worrying because the government has intentionally rendered itself incapable. In 2018, the Trump administration fired the government’s entire pandemic response chain of command, including the White House management infrastructure. In numerous phone calls and emails with key agencies across the U.S. government, the only consistent response I encountered was distressed confusion. If the United States still has a clear chain of command for pandemic response, the White House urgently needs to clarify what it is—not just for the public but for the government itself, which largely finds itself in the dark.
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In the spring of 2018, the White House pushed Congress to cut funding for Obama-era disease security programs, proposing to eliminate $252 million in previously committed resources for rebuilding health systems in Ebola-ravaged Liberia, Sierra Leone, and Guinea. Under fire from both sides of the aisle, President Donald Trump dropped the proposal to eliminate Ebola funds a month later. But other White House efforts included reducing $15 billion in national health spending and cutting the global disease-fighting operational budgets of the CDC, NSC, DHS, and HHS. And the government’s $30 million Complex Crises Fund was eliminated.
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What a ****. Markets don’t go down (well in this case) bc of who got appointed. It’s because jobs/employment is being impacted globally, products are not moving, workers are not working, people are not buying. **** sake
 
Spike said:
So mine wasn't good enough in General?

Oh, u want to make disease political.

You must be a Dem
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Well Tibs made it political in post #4 of the thread.

SCHOCKER
 
Djfan said:
Non-issue, IMO. More media hype.
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Yes and no. I think the main thing here is control, or lack there of a contagion. The rapid spread, the secrecy, and lack of quick response like ******** down travel to/from areas immediately is the issue. Not for this one, but for the one that is the next big deal. Problem we won’t know until it happens.
 
Tibs said:
Try not being such a Trump sycophant for a few minutes - I know it's an impossible request - and try to understand the realities on the ground. Read this and tell me you feel comfortable where we're at.
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Seriously, what the **** is this WE ****?

Because WE are all Steelers fans?
WE certainly don't live together. You live behind a fence in Hungary.
WE certainly aren't political brethren.

Stopping considering us WE.
 
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