Stay away from NM.
We seem to be doing very well in the nation.
92 positive test today though. 500 cases reported state wide
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Stay away from NM.
We seem to be doing very well in the nation.
92 positive test today though. 500 cases reported state wide
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Everything below Gainesville is S FL to me, lol
Yeah, keep them down there, they all transplanted New Yawkers anyway!
We have 9 positive cases in town now, one more than yesterday, **** getting out of hand
In my experience the dividing line is roughly I-4.
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the severe case percentage is 5% currently of tested cases worldwide. so cut that number to about 2,647. That would make more sense. Most confirmed cases are sent home. Now those in the hospital have a very high death rate. the testing itself takes seconds to do and they try to keep it quick and separate so as not to have people standing in lines spreading it. It isn't the sheer number of people it is the severity of those cases they are getting in the hospitals and percentage that are dying.
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I just read on Fox website that they now believe 35 to 50% of people infected show zero symptoms. Those with type O blood are less likely to get sick than those with type A.
Interesting.
Interesting.
Yeah, except when you look at media reports they show pictures and videos of cars parked back to back for blocks in Jacksonville and Southern California, or people standing shoulder to shoulder lining up to get tests. When real people go to Elmurst Hospital, the epicenter, nary a person can be seen per hour getting tested.
Got it.
Tucker Carlson ripped Fauci tonight, citing numbers that continue to fall regarding estimates and how his #s and recommendations have destroyed the country. Good to see. They keep walking **** back, lowering the death rates, infected rates, etc.
Not surprising. Once the CDC (after all of this is over) calculates the "undetected" cases as they do with the flu and factor those in, these fear mongering rates will severely.
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When the mention of FACTS angers you and leads you to dismiss it is that person’s wish, you are in DENIAL. As if people are capable of willing something like this to happen. You, Tim and Steeltime are trying to convince yourselves this is an overreaction before it has peaked, let alone subsided. It’s a really bad way of coping with a reality you don’t like and can’t change.
Even if that is true, it doesn't absolve you from what Indy had said because you have yet to deny it.
You also cannot deny the Dims are loving this.
So point blank...do you hope for this virus to subside ASAP and for the economy to come roaring back before the next election? That is a simple yes or no answer.
Well now...didn't see that commin'........
Oil prices could soon turn negative as the world runs out of places to store crude, analysts warn
The coronavirus pandemic has meant countries have effectively had to shut down, with many governments imposing draconian measures on the daily lives of billions of people.
It has created an unprecedented demand shock in energy markets, with storage space – both onshore and offshore – quickly running out.
Global oil storage could reach maximum capacity within weeks, energy analysts have told CNBC, as the coronavirus crisis dramatically reduces consumption and some of the world’s most powerful crude producers start to ramp up their output.
The U.S. investment bank estimates that the world has around 1 billion barrels of spare storage capacity, but much of that will never be accessed “as the velocity of the current shock will breach transportations networks.”
“Indeed, given the cost of shutting down a well, a producer would be willing to pay someone to dispose of a barrel, implying negative pricing in landlocked areas,” analysts at Goldman said in a research note published Monday.
“Already, ports and refiners are turning away oil tankers. This will put even more downward pressure on prices and pose an existential threat to many companies,” Eurasia Group said.
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/04/01/cor...-turn-negative-as-storage-nears-capacity.html
Oil prices could soon turn negative as the world runs out of places to store crude, analysts warn
The coronavirus pandemic has meant countries have effectively had to shut down, with many governments imposing draconian measures on the daily lives of billions of people.
It has created an unprecedented demand shock in energy markets, with storage space – both onshore and offshore – quickly running out.
Global oil storage could reach maximum capacity within weeks, energy analysts have told CNBC, as the coronavirus crisis dramatically reduces consumption and some of the world’s most powerful crude producers start to ramp up their output.
The U.S. investment bank estimates that the world has around 1 billion barrels of spare storage capacity, but much of that will never be accessed “as the velocity of the current shock will breach transportations networks.”
“Indeed, given the cost of shutting down a well, a producer would be willing to pay someone to dispose of a barrel, implying negative pricing in landlocked areas,” analysts at Goldman said in a research note published Monday.
“Already, ports and refiners are turning away oil tankers. This will put even more downward pressure on prices and pose an existential threat to many companies,” Eurasia Group said.
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/04/01/cor...-turn-negative-as-storage-nears-capacity.html
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For chrissake, Tim is criticizing me for repeating the estimated deaths that TRUMP HIMSELF SAID! In other words, saying he might be right about something. How the **** is that TDS? Please do explain.
Um, Trog, still didn't answer the simple yes or no question.
If thousands of people have to die to keep the Orange Man from being reelected, well that's just collateral damage. /Libs
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Well now...didn't see that commin'........
Oil prices could soon turn negative as the world runs out of places to store crude, analysts warn
The coronavirus pandemic has meant countries have effectively had to shut down, with many governments imposing draconian measures on the daily lives of billions of people.
It has created an unprecedented demand shock in energy markets, with storage space – both onshore and offshore – quickly running out.
Global oil storage could reach maximum capacity within weeks, energy analysts have told CNBC, as the coronavirus crisis dramatically reduces consumption and some of the world’s most powerful crude producers start to ramp up their output.
The U.S. investment bank estimates that the world has around 1 billion barrels of spare storage capacity, but much of that will never be accessed “as the velocity of the current shock will breach transportations networks.”
“Indeed, given the cost of shutting down a well, a producer would be willing to pay someone to dispose of a barrel, implying negative pricing in landlocked areas,” analysts at Goldman said in a research note published Monday.
“Already, ports and refiners are turning away oil tankers. This will put even more downward pressure on prices and pose an existential threat to many companies,” Eurasia Group said.
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/04/01/cor...-turn-negative-as-storage-nears-capacity.html
And yet gas prices here have not moved below $2.39. Been that way for a while came down from $2.59 and stopped.
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Its below 2 here. There are even some stations at 1.40. Most are around 1.60 to 1.80.
Just guessing on my part, but the gas companies know that they won't sell any more gas below a certain price level so it doesn't make economical sense to lower the price more.
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Of course I want it to end. My wife works in a hospital. My son works at a grocery store. My brother is an asthmatic who has had multiple bouts of pneumonia. They are all at increased risk.
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As opposed to Steeltime’s and Tim’s support of having a couple million die for the sake of the economy.
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The virus is in charge of the timing of everything, nothing WE do will change its course, it will burn through it's hosts until it runs out of steam
Just like the 1918 flu, it came out of nowhere and killed 550,000 Americans in 10 months then disappeared. That one killed the most in the 21-29 age group though, those with strongest immune responses were killed fastest, unlike this one. But we have many more old an sick being targeted now, no telling how long it will take.
Did U watch the PBS show on the 1918 flu? Nothing they did stopped it, it spread like wildfire and nothing they tried mattered, masks didn't matter, big cities hit the hardest, government in denial the whole time, from the beginning, eerily similar. Herd immunity finally ended it they said.
'I had a little bird, it's name was Enza
I opened up the window and in flew Enza'
- Children's playground song, 1918
Just like the 1918 flu, it came out of nowhere and killed 550,000 Americans in 10 months then disappeared. That one killed the most in the 21-29 age group though, those with strongest immune responses were killed fastest, unlike this one. But we have many more old an sick being targeted now, no telling how long it will take.
Did U watch the PBS show on the 1918 flu? Nothing they did stopped it, it spread like wildfire and nothing they tried mattered, masks didn't matter, big cities hit the hardest, government in denial the whole time, from the beginning, eerily similar. Herd immunity finally ended it they said.
'I had a little bird, it's name was Enza
I opened up the window and in flew Enza'
- Children's playground song, 1918
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It is in fact an over-reaction based upon what we know so far. Let's put it into that context.
What we know so far (each of these is FACT):
- The flu has killed @30,000 Americans this year
- CV19 has killed 7,851 Americans this year
- The "death rate" for CV19 changes daily and the #s continue to lower as Fauci, WHO, professors, etc walk the numbers back
- Absolute deaths from the flu is, as of today, 4x worse than CV19
- We have shut the country down and we have potentially destroyed the USA, irreparably.
Sadly, when you run a nation, you have to make decisions that weigh the costs of lives and it's a dirty nasty game. What is the cost of 100,000 lives? Is it worth giving up a nation for? Where is that balance point? 2 million? 50,000? When do you say the cure isn't worth it? There is a line. I don't profess to know what it is, but...
What we know now is that we have shut down the entire country. We know the USA has been damaged SEVERELY. We know that at this damned moment the virus has killed 25% of those lost to the flu. We know that this country accepts up to 80,000 flu deaths a year without blinking an eye and moves the hell forward.
Now you'll come back with "it could be the worst disease ever" and "this isn't the flu the death rate is so so so scary bad" and other responses that are based on THEORIES. Based on WHAT WE KNOW, so far, this is an over reaction.
**** you Trog you reprehensible tool. Find a comment where I SUPPORT MILLIONS DYING.
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The virus is in charge of the timing of everything, nothing WE do will change its course, it will burn through it's hosts until it runs out of steam
Just like the 1918 flu, it came out of nowhere and killed 550,000 Americans in 10 months then disappeared. That one killed the most in the 21-29 age group though, those with strongest immune responses were killed fastest, unlike this one. But we have many more old an sick being targeted now, no telling how long it will take.
Did U watch the PBS show on the 1918 flu? Nothing they did stopped it, it spread like wildfire and nothing they tried mattered, masks didn't matter, big cities hit the hardest, government in denial the whole time, from the beginning, eerily similar. Herd immunity finally ended it they said.
'I had a little bird, it's name was Enza
I opened up the window and in flew Enza'
- Children's playground song, 1918
This is pretty much what we have to do. This stuff has to run it's course. All this stuff we're doing right now will buy us time to prepare medically,but herd immunity is pretty much going to be the solution. We could sit at home for 3.months and it will blow back up even if we have a few cases out.
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Much like wearing a seatbelt is an over-reaction until someone collides with you. It’s a precaution Tim, we don’t know what would have happened to the nation’s health AND economy had we not taken it. Therefor you cannot make the asinine conclusion that “it has been an over-reaction based on what we know so far” YOU don’t know **** about the course not taken.
You liked Steeltime’s Post #2935.
Mrs. Burgundy ordered her monthly 5 gallon bucket of popcorn from a local gourmet popcorn place, curbside pickup now, and started binge-watching all the Star Wars movies. I will attempt to mow the yard with my surgically-repaired shoulder to escape this horror.