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The Coronavirus thread

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Deaths are not the only negative consequence of this virus. Those who recover, but had severe cases, are likely to have impaired health, shortened lifespans.
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Oh, there other negatives to the virus. Many. The biggest of which is the lockdown. Which is and will kill more than the virus.
 
Tim Steelersfan said:
Oh, there other negatives to the virus. .
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Especially if you are a tax payer in Mexifornia.This Newsom bill would be funny if it wasn't so outrageously stupid and insulting to the honest residents.

California Tried to Bail Out Illegal Aliens - and It’s a Disaster

Who knew that anonymously handing out $1,000 to criminals could go wrong?

The Golden State is showing its brass with more unemployed people than the entire population of Alabama. So, California’s leaders decided that this was an urgent time to bail out illegal aliens. Illegal aliens were eligible to apply for up to $1,000 with $75 million coming from the California taxpayers bailing out illegals who don't pay taxes. And another $50 million was supposed to be donated by wealthy lefties. But while the taxpayers of the state were forced to put up their $75 million, the wealthy politically correct elites who have poured fortunes into electing Democrats didn’t pay up.

Grantmakers Concerned with Immigrants and Refugees had the backing of billionaires like Steve Jobs' widow, Mark Zuckerberg, and George Soros, but has stalled at $38 million. And that's from guys like Zuckerberg and Soros who use million-dollar bills as toilet paper. But why bother donating to illegals, when you can buy the politicians, and they'll steal money from the middle class to fund your agenda?

But the real train wreck was, as always, on the government side where Governor Newsom had decided to anonymously give away cash to illegals, first-come, first-served. What could possibly go wrong? Instead of illegal aliens having to file paperwork or show up at an office and present their undocumented passports, the giveaway was run through non-profits that help illegal aliens. Like a radio station contest, the illegal aliens had to call in to one of twelve non-profits to walk away with a grand.

The Coalition for Humane Immigrant Rights of Los Angeles claimed that it got 630,000 calls in the first 90 minutes and over 1.1 million calls on the first day. Pew estimates that Los Angeles has around 1 million illegals. What are the odds that all of them would have phoned up one of the non-profits in one day?

And that’s just the calls coming in to one of the non-profits.

Even though California can’t figure out how to give away the money to illegal aliens, Democrats are demanding even more giveaways with legislators calling for $3,200 in payouts per illegal alien.

With claims that there are 289,000 illegal aliens who are no longer able to work illegally in California, that could run to $9 billion in payouts to illegal aliens. Meanwhile, Governor Newsom is warning that unless his government gets a massive federal bailout, cops and firefighters will lose their jobs.

And....... California has taken its illegal alien bailout national with Speaker Pelosi’s HEROES Act offering stimulus cash for illegal aliens at a time when 30 million Americans are out of work.

Handing out cash to criminals never ends well. That’s why so many members of her own party are in jail.
https://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/20...out-illegal-aliens-and-its-daniel-greenfield/

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California is run by ******* morons. The decent people should leave and let that place go under. It needs a reboot.
 
Steelr4evr said:
California is run by ******* morons. The decent people should leave and let that place go under. It needs a reboot.
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A hard reset, if you will. In some form or fashion. Obviously.
 
Oh and speaking of that pesky Coronavirus and all of its destruction:

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Steelworth said:
Oh and speaking of that pesky Coronavirus and all of its destruction:

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Why isn't our governor having rioters arrested for violating public gathering and social distancing rules?
 
I'm thinking a lot of this is organized by Soros and the idea is to goad Trump into calling out the National Guard and goad the National Guard into shooting protesters in an election year.
Except that Trump is too smart and is probably ahead of me on that.
Also when Nixon DID call out the National Guard and they DID shoot protesters ("Tin soldiers and Nixon's coming, we're finally on our own...."), he won reelection in a landslide.
 
From ultra-conservative NPR:

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">We shut down society and tanked the economy over a virus with a 0.5% to 1% fatality rate. <a href="https://t.co/wWnxrwgj2S">https://t.co/wWnxrwgj2S</a></p>— Brad Polumbo &#55356;&#56826;&#55356;&#56824; &#55356;&#57331;️*&#55356;&#57096; (@brad_polumbo) <a href="https://twitter.com/brad_polumbo/status/1267510161603731456?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 1, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
 
Like I said, the worst public policy decision in history. You would think the idiot Dem governors would get that message.

Oh, and if there is a secondary wave, if the Governors thinks that they can put Genie back in the bottle, they have another thing coming.
 
.....and just like that covid 19 wasn't an issue anymore.
 
Oh hold up. They're covering their tracks, you know, just in case:

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Let's be clear about something: if there is a spike in coronavirus cases in the next two weeks, don't blame the protesters.<br><br>Blame racism.</p>— Mark D. Levine (@MarkLevineNYC) <a href="https://twitter.com/MarkLevineNYC/status/1268159721468559360?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 3, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
 
Unmasked Coronavirus Deniers Crowd Italian Piazza to Protest Health Measures Amid Pandemic They Claim 'Never Existed'

(ROME) — Hundreds of demonstrators have gathered in Rome shunning masks to protest against the Italian government’s measures to stop the spread of the coronavirus.

Members of a marginal political movement created last year by a retired Carabinieri general have emerged as a virus-denial camp in Italy, the first Western country to be hit by the global pandemic.

The leader of the so-called Orange Vests told the protest crowd assembled in the Piazza del Popolo on Tuesday that children shouldn’t be made to wear masks and he threatened to ‘’slap’’ anyone who did.

Antonio Pappalardo added that he refuses to wear a mask himself and said: ‘’These lungs mine. I will take care of my lungs. Breathing is sacred.’’

The people packing the square didn’t adhere to social-distancing guidelines set by the government.

Pappalardo portrayed such containment measures as an infringement of freedom. Other speakers at the protest asserted that the pandemic ‘’never existed’’ and alleged that politicians had played it up to enhance their own powers.

Italy went into a nationwide lockdown in early March. The country enters a new phase in emerging from the virus emergency with the opening of regional and external borders on Wednesday.
 
Ron Burgundy said:
I wouldn't go that far, remember death is my business, because a crap-ton of people died in Italy, Spain, and New York, but basically we've learned that certain groups of people in certain places have higher risk and need to take precautions. Everyone else, no so much.
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I've never worked in a nursing home, but I bet dollars to donuts that on the lower-cost end of the spectrum, not only are they not getting the best care but I'm sure that the facilities themselves are not up to code when it comes to certain things ie. mold, mildew, dust, debris & detritus. I can't say that for certain but where there's no accountability or little (in any case), things seem to get neglected.

And the most elderly among us, are they going to get on their Twitter account and complain to the world that their conditions are not good or perhaps even terrible? They going to take video of the conditions and post it to their Instagram? How are they getting heard, just curious? I'm sure jitter77 will pop in and tell us there are oversight agencies for this, but are they doing their jobs?

Just with this whole Coronavirus episode and the seemingly lack of regard etc. for the elderly and these nursing homes, I'm a little skeptical.
 
Steelworth said:
I've never worked in a nursing home, but I bet dollars to donuts that on the lower-cost end of the spectrum, not only are they not getting the best care but I'm sure that the facilities themselves are not up to code when it comes to certain things ie. mold, mildew, dust, debris & detritus. I can't say that for certain but where there's no accountability or little (in any case), things seem to get neglected.

And the most elderly among us, are they going to get on their Twitter account and complain to the world that their conditions are not good or perhaps even terrible? They going to take video of the conditions and post it to their Instagram? How are they getting heard, just curious? I'm sure jitter77 will pop in and tell us there are oversight agencies for this, but are they doing their jobs?

Just with this whole Coronavirus episode and the seemingly lack of regard etc. for the elderly and these nursing homes, I'm a little skeptical.
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Basically in PA we have a required annual department of health survey (CMS / Medicaid) which also brings state life safety in. We also have ombudsman who can just pop in. Of course the department of health can come in on any type of complaint which has happened multiple times at my place. Could be family / resident / disgruntled staff calling, etc etc....I deal more with Life Safety, but their surveys vary greatly. Some years they will go over every inch of the building other times they focus more on paper work. Most of the inspectors are reasonable and give you a fair shot. Every once in a while you will get one on a power trip, but our building is fairly simple from a life safety stand point and usually everything is up to date and what not. A normal survey only takes them like 5-6 hours.

Department of Health is a whole different animal. I can honestly say I feel our residents get good care compared to a lot of places, but yet our star rating sucks. The whole rating system is very biased and opinionated. The same citation can be anything from a minor tag to a major tag depending on how they word it. I also feel the DOH is much more political than the life safety branch. If you argue or fight state tags the following year they seem to be out for revenge. I feel that things we should be getting tagged for are missed but yet they take stupid minor things and make it seem like we are the worst people on earth. The department of health survey is normally 3-4 days with about 5 surveyors. I do feel they cover a lot of ground, but there is just too much opinion involved. Every year there are more and more regulations and some of them don't seem to benefit the residents. I am hoping they give us a fair shot this year since we had no COVID, only a couple flu cases, and no norovirus. Before COVID they actually started our survey and were there for most of a day, but got a call they couldnt come back. As soon as we open up we are at the top of the list im sure.

Here is an example...Lets say a resident accidently gets peas for lunch one day, but on their care plan it says they dont like peas. That could turn into 3-4 tags ranging from a dignity issue, to residents rights being violated, to neglect to a tag, and another tag for not following care plans. If they really wanted to be dicks they could throw a more severe level tag for possible harm because they could say "if the resident was allergic to peas they could have died."
 
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Steelworth said:
I've never worked in a nursing home, but I bet dollars to donuts that on the lower-cost end of the spectrum, not only are they not getting the best care but I'm sure that the facilities themselves are not up to code when it comes to certain things ie. mold, mildew, dust, debris & detritus. I can't say that for certain but where there's no accountability or little (in any case), things seem to get neglected.
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The nursing home that F'd up my county with 76 of our 83 Covid death is very large, about 500 residents, and it's a shithole. It's where you go when you or your family cant afford anything else. It was a county-owned nepotism job factory for decades but our local politicos dodged a bullet when the the previous administration sold it to a private company 6 or 7 years ago because the county needed the money.

jitter77 said:
Basically in PA we have a required annual department of health survey (CMS / Medicaid) which also brings state life safety in. We also have ombudsman who can just pop in. Of course the department of health can come in on any type of complaint which has happened multiple times at my place. Could be family / resident / disgruntled staff calling, etc etc....I deal more with Life Safety, but their surveys vary greatly. Some years they will go over every inch of the building other times they focus more on paper work. Most of the inspectors are reasonable and give you a fair shot. Every once in a while you will get one on a power trip, but our building is fairly simple from a life safety stand point and usually everything is up to date and what not. A normal survey only takes them like 5-6 hours.
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Remember our state secretary of health suspended nursing home inspections in early March. Maybe it doesn't make sense but I think that like the state liquor stores it had more to do with unionized state employees not wanting to go work around people with cooties than anything else.
 
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Steelworth said:
Oh hold up. They're covering their tracks, you know, just in case:

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Let's be clear about something: if there is a spike in coronavirus cases in the next two weeks, don't blame the protesters.<br><br>Blame racism.</p>— Mark D. Levine (@MarkLevineNYC) <a href="https://twitter.com/MarkLevineNYC/status/1268159721468559360?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 3, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
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That ranks right up there with "Believe all women is a right wing trap."
 
Major Hydroxychloroquine Study Retracted: ‘We Deeply Apologize’

“Our independent peer reviewers informed us that Surgisphere would not transfer” relevant information including the full dataset “to their servers for analysis as such transfer would violate client agreements and confidentiality requirements,” the researchers wrote in a June 4 statement (pdf).

“As such, our reviewers were not able to conduct an independent and private peer review and therefore notified us of their withdrawal from the peer-review process.”

“Based on this development, we can no longer vouch for the veracity of the primary data sources. Due to this unfortunate development, the authors request that the paper be retracted,” they added later.

“We all entered this collaboration to contribute in good faith and at a time of great need during the COVID-19 pandemic. We deeply apologize to you, the editors, and the journal readership for any embarrassment or inconvenience that this may have caused.”
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Front page news, right? Right?
 
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