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The Coronavirus thread

In NC, the percentage of positives was around 6% and steady, now it's at 10% and rising. Hospitalizations had been staying around the 600 mark, and are now over 1,000. To me it's a combination of the reopening, protests, and large gatherings indoors without masks that are driving these numbers.

You gotta be careful with the hospitalization figures. Dr Scott Atlas says that the rise in hospitalizations has a lot to do with routine procedures starting back up. Everyone is tested, of course. Depending on location, anywhere between 40-60% of new Covid cases are routines, who arrive asymptomatic, but test positive. But they are still counted as Covid. It is deaths and ICU figures we need to watch.

I, for one, have lost all confidence in Fauci. And I belive he has an agenda that involves big Pharma.
 
You gotta be careful with the hospitalization figures. Dr Scott Atlas says that the rise in hospitalizations has a lot to do with routine procedures starting back up. Everyone is tested, of course. Depending on location, anywhere between 40-60% of new Covid cases are routines, who arrive asymptomatic, but test positive. But they are still counted as Covid. It is deaths and ICU figures we need to watch.

I, for one, have lost all confidence in Fauci. And I belive he has an agenda that involves big Pharma.

Yes, and the DNC. He’s probably getting paid by Soros too.
 
No one is calling Trump an infectious disease expert. They're saying his ability to judge that we're being bullshitted is superior.

Just like a lot of Americans being “woke” about covid.
 
CA gov orders all bars, restaurants, closed due to high increase. He supports more protests, and is ok with his wife getting some BBC
 
closing schools is just the backdoor way to shutdown the economy.
 
Whatever. I'm tired of trying to discuss this with you guys while cases rise, hospitalizations rise, deaths rise, Trump's poll numbers slide into the toilet and he seems to take action after action and make statement after statement to keep those trends going.

I was wrong about Trump's electability last time and I hope to God I'm wrong now and that he doesn't lose in a landslide and take Congress down with him.
 
Whatever. I'm tired of trying to discuss this with you guys while cases rise, hospitalizations rise, deaths rise, Trump's poll numbers slide into the toilet and he seems to take action after action and make statement after statement to keep those trends going.

I was wrong about Trump's electability last time and I hope to God I'm wrong now and that he doesn't lose in a landslide and take Congress down with him.

Remember, we are not permitted to voice our views. There are many quite people.
 
Here the thing. It takes one, one infected person to speak anything contagious. One. So, the good doc we didn’t shut down long enough is bs. Buy that rational, we can not come out your home until zero. Zero cases. Zero.


It takes one.

**** the doc
 
I was wrong about Trump's electability last time and I hope to God I'm wrong now and that he doesn't lose in a landslide and take Congress down with him.

Scott Adams on his podcast today cited a piece of research that showed that 60% of Trump supporters will not be honest with a pollster. I don't think this is difficult to believe. Then, what does this say about the polls?

In California, when a person tests positive for Covid, they are required to keep testing until they get a negative before they can return to work. Every one of those positive tests is considered a new case, despite that it is the same person. All positive antibody tests are considered a new case. These Dem shitholes are cooking the books. This is all about November.

Turn your TV off. You will be better informed as a result.
 
Scott Adams on his podcast today cited a piece of research that showed that 60% of Trump supporters will not be honest with a pollster. I don't think this is difficult to believe. Then, what does this say about the polls?

In California, when a person tests positive for Covid, they are required to keep testing until they get a negative before they can return to work. Every one of those positive tests is considered a new case, despite that it is the same person. All positive antibody tests are considered a new case. These Dem shitholes are cooking the books. This is all about November.

Turn your TV off. You will be better informed as a result.

Its the same in iowa regarding the new test, new case. I would wager its the same everywhere in the US.
 
Scott Adams on his podcast today cited a piece of research that showed that 60% of Trump supporters will not be honest with a pollster. I don't think this is difficult to believe. Then, what does this say about the polls?

In California, when a person tests positive for Covid, they are required to keep testing until they get a negative before they can return to work. Every one of those positive tests is considered a new case, despite that it is the same person. All positive antibody tests are considered a new case. These Dem shitholes are cooking the books. This is all about November.

Turn your TV off. You will be better informed as a result.

Statistics can be manipulated in both directions. Some of you don't seem to realize that. Do you really think Trump has no interest in minimizing the negatives? In reopening the economy at all costs? I don't need to turn my TV off, some of you just need to take your Trump colored glasses off and think critically.
 
I, for one, have lost all confidence in Fauci. And I belive he has an agenda that involves big Pharma.

Absolutely. I don't know how anyone could objectively think he doesn't at this point.
 
Statistics can be manipulated in both directions. Some of you don't seem to realize that. Do you really think Trump has no interest in minimizing the negatives? In reopening the economy at all costs? I don't need to turn my TV off, some of you just need to take your Trump colored glasses off and think critically.

I don't base my opinions on White House pressers. If you go back through my recent posts, I have cited my sources. Here is another........

 
Statistics can be manipulated in both directions.

How? When essentially every big city in America is run by Democrats top to bottom.

Some of you don't seem to realize that. Do you really think Trump has no interest in minimizing the negatives? In reopening the economy at all costs? I don't need to turn my TV off, some of you just need to take your Trump colored glasses off and think critically.

The guy already shut down the ******* economy once. Reopening the economy at ALL COSTS? You really have drank the Kool-Aid that Trump is the Boogeyman. And I'm not a Trump bootlicker and I do think critically.
 
I manage the Pittsburgh office of a national direct cremation company. My region includes 5 east coast states and each morning we all have to report how many Covid-19 cases we had in the previous 24 hours. Granted it's just a small sample from one company but so far this month we've totaled 4 cases in 5 states which is WAY down from April and May.
 
I manage the Pittsburgh office of a national direct cremation company. My region includes 5 east coast states and each morning we all have to report how many Covid-19 cases we had in the previous 24 hours. Granted it's just a small sample from one company but so far this month we've totaled 4 cases in 5 states which is WAY down from April and May.

Just curious, what were the cases at in April and May?
 
How? When essentially every big city in America is run by Democrats top to bottom.



The guy already shut down the ******* economy once. Reopening the economy at ALL COSTS? You really have drank the Kool-Aid that Trump is the Boogeyman. And I'm not a Trump bootlicker and I do think critically.

Trump is not the Boogeyman. My point is all of this has been politicized. Decisions are not being made by either side based on public health balanced with economic health anymore. It's all about posturing and jockeying for political position. People are getting sick and dying, Trump didn't cause it but he is ignoring it. He needs to lead.
 
Trump is not the Boogeyman. My point is all of this has been politicized. Decisions are not being made by either side based on public health balanced with economic health anymore. It's all about posturing and jockeying for political position. People are getting sick and dying, Trump didn't cause it but he is ignoring it. He needs to lead.

What is he ignoring?

He shut the borders when the Dems were calling him racist. He recommended shutting down the country, based on advice by Fauci. He supported an economic aid plan. When it became apparent the hospitals were okay, he urged reopening our devastated economy, which he continues today. The rest is up to the individual states.

What do you want? He wore a ******* mask the other day. Jesus.
 
People are getting sick and dying, Trump didn't cause it but he is ignoring it. He needs to lead.

What would you like him to do?

He gave these guys ventilators and hospital beds galore when they begged for it (as he did with every other state who requested it), and instead they put infected patients into vulnerable nursing homes. And not only are they not behind bars, they still have their jobs.

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What is he ignoring?

He shut the borders when the Dems were calling him racist. He recommended shutting down the country, based on advice by Fauci. He supported an economic aid plan. When it became apparent the hospitals were okay, he urged reopening our devastated economy, which he continues today. The rest is up to the individual states.

What do you want? He wore a ******* mask the other day. Jesus.

I'm weary of this conversation honestly.

This is the biggest issue facing our nation. Who gives a **** what he did 4 months ago. Yay he wore a mask in public for the first time...he's made no public statements strongly encouraging people to wear masks or social distance. He's urged no actions. He's offered no guidance on how we slow the terrible trend we are in all over the country right now. States ignored the guidance his task force put out and he said nothing. He is NOT LEADING.

"Oh it's up to the states now" is not leadership.
 
I'm weary of this conversation honestly.

This is the biggest issue facing our nation. .

Sorry. It isn't. It is worse than typical flu. Period. Hey Spike, it is a bad flu. It impacts the most vulnerable, like those in nursing homes. I know. I have a 92 year old mother in a home that I have not been able to see for 5 months. It has taken it's toll. The rest will be fine.

Neither is systemic racism. No factual basis for that.

All media concoctions.

The biggest issue facing our nation is the marxist attempt to destabilize us, and fracture us. The cultural marxists are flexing their muscles, and we need to be willing to fight the fight.

Have we noticed what has been happening recently to the Iranian nuclear facilities?

This President has his priorities in order. He is not Barack Obama.
 
Sorry. It isn't. It is worse than typical flu. Period. Hey Spike, it is a bad flu. It impacts the most vulnerable, like those in nursing homes. I know. I have a 92 year old mother in a home that I have not been able to see for 5 months. It has taken it's toll. The rest will be fine.

Neither is systemic racism. No factual basis for that.

All media concoctions.

The biggest issue facing our nation is the marxist attempt to destabilize us, and fracture us. The cultural marxists are flexing their muscles, and we need to be willing to fight the fight.

Have we noticed what has been happening recently to the Iranian nuclear facilities?

This President has his priorities in order. He is not Barack Obama.

How's Trump doing on the Marxist attempt to destabilize us?

Not very well if Joe ******* Biden has a snowball's chance in hell of getting elected.
 
How's Trump doing on the Marxist attempt to destabilize us?

Not very well if Joe ******* Biden has a snowball's chance in hell of getting elected.

Agreed there.

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