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The Coronavirus thread

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You can't make this **** up. Will there be anyone from the Trump base still around in November?

Act I. June 20th

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Act II. July 15th.

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Its been stated that Florida's testing numbers are being misrepresented by not reporting negative results. Color me shocked. This is bullshit.
 
Its been stated that Florida's testing numbers are being misrepresented by not reporting negative results. Color me shocked. This is bullshit.

Not by a little bit. By a massive amount. Some hospitals were reporting 90% and 88% positive rates....then came back and said "whoops sorry we meant 9%"

We're being fed bullshit and have been for months. People like Tibs swallow this **** whole, calling these people experts. Aye comrade.

FOX 35 INVESTIGATES: Florida Department of Health says some labs have not reported negative COVID-19 results
https://www.fox35orlando.com/news/f...ve-not-reported-negative-covid-19-results.amp

Countless labs have reported a 100 percent positivity rate, which means every single person tested was positive. Other labs had very high positivity rates. FOX 35 News found that testing sites like one local Centra Care reported that 83 people were tested and all tested positive. Then, NCF Diagnostics in Alachua reported 88 percent of tests were positive.

How could that be? FOX 35 News investigated these astronomical numbers, contacting every local location mentioned in the report.

The report showed that Orlando Health had a 98 percent positivity rate. However, when FOX 35 News contacted the hospital, they confirmed errors in the report. Orlando Health's positivity rate is only 9.4 percent, not 98 percent as in the report.

The report also showed that the Orlando Veteran’s Medical Center had a positivity rate of 76 percent. A spokesperson for the VA told FOX 35 News on Tuesday that this does not reflect their numbers and that the positivity rate for the center is actually 6 percent.

FOX 35 News went on to speak with the Florida Department of Health on Tuesday. They confirmed that although private and public laboratories are required to report positive and negative results to the state immediately, some have not. Specifically, they said that some smaller, private labs were not reporting negative test result data to the state.

"The Department immediately began working with those labs to ensure that all results were being reported in order to provide comprehensive and transparent data," a spokesperson for the Florida Department of Health said. "As the state continues to receive results from various labs, the Department will continue educating these labs on proper protocol for reporting COVID-19 test results."

Florida is currently experiencing a surge in COVID-19 cases, reporting the state's daily reported cases have gone from about 2,000 a day a month ago to over 12,000. Then, on Tuesday, state health officials reported the largest single-day increase in deaths yet, as 132 more were announced.

Doctors had been predicting that a surge in deaths would follow Florida’s jump in daily reported cases. The growing caseload is partly driven by increased testing, but a larger percentage of tests are coming back positive, jumping from 6 percent a month ago to more than 18 percent.

Almost all people infected with coronavirus survive, but those who do succumb usually die two or more weeks after they are first diagnosed.

While Florida has broken national records for jumps in cases, the state's death toll is nowhere near the national record. When COVID-19 was ravaging New York three months ago, it recorded 799 deaths on April 9 and had a top seven-day average of 763 deaths on April 14. New York now has one of the nation’s lowest death rates per capita, recording 10 per day over the last week.

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Well good lord, can anyone figure out one reason why Florida might be experiencing a surge in cases...?
 
I'm not sure what your point is in comparing this to HIV. There are about 38,000 people per year infected with HIV in the US annually.

There are 3 million confirmed cases of Covid in the span of 6 months. Estimates are that actual cases are 10 times that number. HIV is not something that is easy to contract just by walking around in public.

As I've said before, the problem with Covid is not how deadly it is, it appears to be slightly deadlier than the flu, and even less deadly than the flu in certain groups of people. The problem is how rapidly and efficiently it can spread, piling up lots of illness, hospitalization and death in very short periods of time.

SARS was very deadly, but partially because of how deadly it was, didn't spread easily. If you had SARS you generally weren't walking around in the population infecting people.

the point is that when HIV broke out, everybody was freaked and there were no laws to restrict them. The only real law was that you could be charged with a version of murder if you were HIV positive and did not inform your sex partner. Years later, that has been repealed in many places. Now in many states, it is fine to be HIV positive and lie to your partner and infect them and it’s not against the law.

So you have the same people demanding everybody wear masks and on the other hand, they don’t think that and HIV positive person should be forced to inform their partner. It’s just pointing out that politicians pick and choose public good all the time.

Where would somebody like Pelosi stand on the question of masks and on an HIV positive person informing their partner? How could anybody be for one and against the other if public health was the real concern?

The point is simply to show that there have been epidemics and pandemics before and we have not responded by taking away freedoms.
 
Mexico is much more concerned about Americans entering their country, than the other way around. Same goes for the EU and Canada. Quite remarkable, that we've arrived at this point.

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Mexico's Foreign Ministry has announced it is extending its border restrictions on nonessential travel from the US until August 21 as coronavirus cases spike in America https://t.co/Bsey0DRuBW
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Mexico is much more concerned about Americans entering their country, than the other way around. Same goes for the EU and Canada. Quite remarkable, that we've arrived at this point.

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You can't make this **** up. Will there be anyone from the Trump base still around in November?

Act I. June 20th

Could you be any more of an idiot? Oh wait, we're talking about Tibs. You have a patent on idiocy....

He contracted COVID and he will live, like 99% of people that get it.

YOU clearly drink the PMSNBC HuffPo Jim Jones Kool-aid...."Will there be anyone left around November?" <------Idiocy, assuming COVID has a higher than ebola kill rate.

Christ I'm glad you're back for a moment before you crawl back under the rock. We needed entertainment.
 
You can't make this **** up. Will there be anyone from the Trump base still around in November?

hmm. are you suggesting this is a political play - and that it's only targeting the "Trump base" (which you hate) for political gain? Do tell us more.
 
He better be careful with his gloating. The virus has not gone away. Plus you could argue their current infection and death rates are so low in large part because so many people have already had it and died there.

It's incredible, the double standard here. If Trump mandated that positive Covid patients be sent to vulnerable nursing homes and killing thousands in the process, the impeachment hearings would be well underway and he'd be looking at criminal prosecution (and rightly so).

New York has had over 32,000 Covid deaths, by far the most in the country (NJ at 17,000+) and this guy is doing a victory lap? Unreal.
 
the point is that when HIV broke out, everybody was freaked and there were no laws to restrict them. The only real law was that you could be charged with a version of murder if you were HIV positive and did not inform your sex partner. Years later, that has been repealed in many places. Now in many states, it is fine to be HIV positive and lie to your partner and infect them and it’s not against the law.

So you have the same people demanding everybody wear masks and on the other hand, they don’t think that and HIV positive person should be forced to inform their partner. It’s just pointing out that politicians pick and choose public good all the time.

Where would somebody like Pelosi stand on the question of masks and on an HIV positive person informing their partner? How could anybody be for one and against the other if public health was the real concern?

The point is simply to show that there have been epidemics and pandemics before and we have not responded by taking away freedoms.

Once again, in the first 20 years after the discovery of HIV, there were 775,000 cases. I'm not sure why you are unable to distinguish between that number and the probably 30 million + people infected with Covid in 6 months. The reason they didn't "take away our freedoms" was because it was not super easy to become infected with HIV through normal activities of daily living. HIV was also a relatively slowly progressing disease. There weren't ERs, hospitals and ICUs teeming with HIV patients who had just gotten infected in the last week or two.
 
White House Director of the Office of Trade and Manufacturing Policy Peter Navarro unleashed an op-ed on Wednesday criticizing Director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases Dr. Anthony Fauci.

“So when you ask me whether I listen to Dr. Fauci’s advice, my answer is: only with skepticism and caution,” Navarro concluded after detailing a list of his concerns with Fauci in an op-ed titled “Anthony Fauci Has Been Wrong About Everything I Have Interacted with Him On” in USA Today.

Navarro wrote that he pushed the president to take the coronavirus threat seriously and level a travel ban on flights from China in January.

“Fauci fought against the president’s courageous decision — which might well have saved hundreds of thousands of American lives,” Navarro wrote.

Navarro said Fauci also told the news media in January “not to worry” about a possible pandemic and described the virus threat as “low risk.”

“When we were building new mask capacity in record time, Fauci was flip-flopping on the use of masks,” he wrote, referring to the doctor’s recommendation not to wear masks at the beginning of the pandemic.

Navarro also challenged Fauci for dismissing hydroxychloroquine as a way to fight the virus despite scientific studies showing its success.

It appears Fauci’s dismissal of the falling mortality rate was the last straw for Navarro.

“Now Fauci says a falling mortality rate doesn’t matter when it is the single most important statistic to help guide the pace of our economic reopening,” he wrote. “The lower the mortality rate, the faster and more we can open.”
 
While the leftists makes strides...

I certainly agree that the leftists have made strides. I think you're on to something here. The rest of it I didn't really look at too seriously.
 
I think somebody needs to mass-manufacture masks that say on the front

"I wore a mask for you.
Vote for Trump for yourself!"

That or simply print millions and millions of MAGA and KAG masks and hand them out to people as they enter stores in liberal cities. Then give them official looking fines while taking their picture and talking about how great facial recognition software is these days if they don't take them.

Cause I love the idea of being THAT *******.
 
What we've seen these past few months has been the result of a complete void of leadership on the national level.
So you think Nancy Pelosi has done a **** job too.
 
I certainly agree that the leftists have made strides. I think you're on to something here. The rest of it I didn't really look at too seriously.

Huh? I didn't even write that. I think that's from a tweet I embedded from someone who made it apparent leftists were making strides in all the wrong ways. Care to elaborate on what you're talking about?
 
particularly when the lives and well-being of millions are at risk.
OooOoooooOooooo Millions!

Or, maybe a couple hundred thousand... You know basically the same as... MILLIONS AND BILLIONS

Here we are, back to that darn global extinction event that will simply take a few millennia to complete given the .038 death rate. (Which by the way is BETTER than the worldwide death rate. Just for giggles...)
 
Seeing the latest WH attacks on Fauci, I wonder how long it will take them to run this Redfield dude out of town?

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I assume he's referring to the TDS waves after Trump is reelected...
 
Mexico is much more concerned about Americans entering their country, than the other way around. Same goes for the EU and Canada. Quite remarkable, that we've arrived at this point.

You can't be this ignorant... Mexico is shutting down LEGAL transport across the border. The U.S. is still struggling to shut down ILLEGAL aliens from crossing the border and calling 911 for emergency services which can't be denied. They are over running the border hospitals. I can't believe you don't understand the difference.
 
You can't be this ignorant... Mexico is shutting down LEGAL transport across the border. The U.S. is still struggling to shut down ILLEGAL aliens from crossing the border and calling 911 for emergency services which can't be denied. They are over running the border hospitals. I can't believe you don't understand the difference.

What gives?

The president has been campaigning for reelection on his immigration record and the steep decline in irregular migration since last year, when border authorities made nearly 1 million arrests.

“We’ve been helped greatly by Mexico on creating record numbers in a positive sense on our southern border,” Trump said, without specifying what records he was referring to. “It’s been really very, very tight.”

The emergency enforcement measures CBP rolled out in late March allow U.S. agents to process unlawful border crossers in outdoor areas and quickly send them back into Mexico, rather than holding them in custody to initiate formal deportations or charge them with a crime.

Mexico has cooperated with Trump by agreeing to accept Central American returnees in addition to its own citizens. The measures are controversial because they have essentially shut the door on the ability of asylum seekers to seek safe refuge in the United States, while also waving off anti-trafficking laws preventing the rapid deportation of underage migrants who arrive without a parent.

Acting DHS secretary Chad Wolf, whom Trump singled out for praise during the appearance with López Obrador, played down the significance of the increase.

“The real story is we have stopped catch & release & are protecting Americans during a public health crisis by returning almost 90% of illegal aliens encountered at the (Mexico border) to their home countries, most within 120 minutes,” Wolf tweeted, referring to The Washington Post’s article.
 
It's high time some of you stop looking for scapegoats and boogeymen, trying to wish this thing away. Rather, you can start dealing with the facts and face the hard, cold reality of this pandemic. Or don't, your choice. As they say, ignorance is bliss.


Almost one-third of Florida children tested are positive for the coronavirus
https://thehill.com/changing-americ...most-one-third-of-florida-children-tested-are

The state’s outbreak continues to surge as new data reveal children may be more impacted than previously thought.

Florida health officials have identified a troubling trend; approximately 31 percent, or one-third, of children in Florida tested for COVID-19 yield positive results, according to the Sun Sentinel.

State data
indicates that out of 54,022 Florida children tested, 31.1 percent have returned positive results on average. This is higher than the statewide positivity rate, which reads in at about 11 percent.

Aside from the staggering figure indicating the transmission of the virus, health experts fear it can cause potential lifelong damage in children. Alina Alonso, the health department director of Palm Beach County, reportedly told county commissioners on Tuesday that the long-term consequences of coronavirus in children are unknown.

Alonso described X-rays that reveal damage caused to human lungs by the coronavirus, even for people without severe symptoms.

“They are seeing there is damage to the lungs in these asymptomatic children. ... We don’t know how that is going to manifest a year from now or two years from now,” Alonso told reporters. “Is that child going to have chronic pulmonary problems or not?”

Throughout the pandemic, children have largely been exempt from severe COVID-19 infections, despite the recently discovered pediatric multisystem inflammatory syndrome that occurred in a small number of children who were exposed to the virus. Similar to the inflammatory illness Kawasaki Disease, the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) issued an alert and guidance page for children exhibiting symptoms.

“We are learning something every day,” said Jorge Perez, who co-founded Kidz Medical Services and operates pediatric offices throughout South Florida. “We have to be knowledgeable about this and continue to monitor to see what effects it has in children.”

This comes as states determine whether in-person education will resume in the fall. Outside of potentially hazardous consequences of a coronavirus infection to children, asymptomatic carriers pose a threat to teachers and other staff, who are demographically more likely to have a severe infection.
 
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