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The Coronavirus thread

i believe those are the new WHO guidelines that they dropped as soon as Biden was sworn in. Also CNN has dropped their on screen COVID death count. Just coincidence.

There's no longer a reason to fear monger. Mission accomplished.
 
i believe those are the new WHO guidelines that they dropped as soon as Biden was sworn in. Also CNN has dropped their on screen COVID death count. Just coincidence.

Amazing...Who would have guessed it? We just lived through the most complex coup ever devised, but rather than the typical method (Ahh, Ahh, Ah-Kennedy), they hooked their wagon on a virus that somehow found its way out of a lab, killed hundreds of thousands, destroyed our economy, totally obliterated family run businesses, decimated lives, and annihilated confidence in our election system. Who in the hell can possibly be a fan of what the hell just happened?.

Global Stats according to Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:COVID-19_pandemic_data

Location / Population / Confirmed Cases / Deaths / Recovered
World / 7,840,662,600 / 96,938,729 / 2,077,005 / 53,473,804 1.2% of the world's population has had a confirmed case. .0002% has died from the virus.
United States / 332,100,447 / 24,433,486 / 404,812 / 10,562,082 (Where is the other 20K cases? Detroit?) Amazingly 7% of the US has had a confirmed case vs 1.2% of the rest of the world, .12% has died from the virus in the US vs .0002%.


“You never let a serious crisis go to waste. And what I mean by that it’s an opportunity to do things you think you could not do before.” – Rahm Emanuel, then President Barack Obama’s Chief of Staff, former Mayor of Chicago.
 
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Biden justvramrodded 17 executive orders...no discussion with his cabinet, no discussion with the senate or congress. If Trump did that it would be all hate, 24 hours a day on the news.
 
Biden justvramrodded 17 executive orders...no discussion with his cabinet, no discussion with the senate or congress. If Trump did that it would be all hate, 24 hours a day on the news.

Those discussions were had before inauguration. He owes the socialists like Bernie and AOC that took it easy on him during the campaign. Nothing really unusual, just a little more dangerous this time around.
 
I just had someone in the shop yesterday that was around Aron's age and got the shot a few days back. Made him sick like he had the virus all over again. He said just about every symptom....I say that because both him and his wife had the Chi virus in December....

Why are people getting vaccinated after they already had it? Talk about double Jeopardy.

He was having trouble just walking yesterday, after he was 100 percent fine last week when he dropped parts off at my shop.
 
Why are people getting vaccinated after they already had it? Talk about double Jeopardy.
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This. They should have biological immunity. Didn't they check with their doctor before doing it?
 
This. They should have biological immunity. Didn't they check with their doctor before doing it?

according to my doctors, after contracting Covid in November, I was told that antibodies last for maybe 3 months. I don't know if that's true or not, but that is it going information.
 
level headed look at data

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So this is scary and somewhat what we have thought.

I am fighting osha on citations and we have pulled in an expert for our case, well the attorney group did. He has about twenty different letters after his name, but essentially PHD, epidemiology, and some other big time viral / clinical expert degrees. ****** better for what we are paying.

Anywho....we now have very solid study that the N95 provide little to no increase in benefit over a normal surgical mask. As for our fight this is huge as it calls into question the validity of the respiratory protection standard and it’s application to healthcare (it was written for half/full face respirators not fabric masks). The “damnnn” though is, well that explains why outbreaks still happen in centers with staff appropriately PPEd, fit tested, but still pass it to the residents. I was putting it on **** hand hygiene and poor cleaning, but this, if true, explains a **** ton.

Masks don’t do ****
 
So this is scary and somewhat what we have thought.

I am fighting osha on citations and we have pulled in an expert for our case, well the attorney group did. He has about twenty different letters after his name, but essentially PHD, epidemiology, and some other big time viral / clinical expert degrees. ****** better for what we are paying.

Anywho....we now have very solid study that the N95 provide little to no increase in benefit over a normal surgical mask. As for our fight this is huge as it calls into question the validity of the respiratory protection standard and it’s application to healthcare (it was written for half/full face respirators not fabric masks). The “damnnn” though is, well that explains why outbreaks still happen in centers with staff appropriately PPEd, fit tested, but still pass it to the residents. I was putting it on **** hand hygiene and poor cleaning, but this, if true, explains a **** ton.

Masks don’t do ****

They made people scared enough to abandon their civil liberties and not question unregulated mail in voting, so they did what they were intended to do.
 
They made people scared enough to abandon their civil liberties and not question unregulated mail in voting, so they did what they were intended to do.

Did you hear amazon Wants to suspend the union vote bc their folks will use mail in ballets and Jeff boy said their could be fraud!?!?!?
 
Did you hear amazon Wants to suspend the union vote bc their folks will use mail in ballets and Jeff boy said their could be fraud!?!?!?

Well Unions can be pretty ******* crooked and gangster like, much like politicians. That's why the lefties use them. I find it absolutely hilarious he's bitching about that.
 
according to my doctors, after contracting Covid in November, I was told that antibodies last for maybe 3 months. I don't know if that's true or not, but that is it going information.

They now believe it lasts at least 8 months. Hasn't been around long enough for anyone to know how much longer than that it might last. It isn't universal of course, a few people will not have immunity for very long or at all. That is typical of many illnesses.

https://www.usnews.com/news/health-...9-immunity-might-last-at-least-8-months-study
 
Yup. All listed as covid-19 deaths too

Correct. What you do in either case whether vaccine or virus is look at excess deaths. Did more people die after getting the vaccine than otherwise normally would have? Did more people die after getting covid than otherwise normally would have?

One individual instance of death after either is insignificant in terms of determining causation.
 
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Correct. What you do in either case whether vaccine or virus is look at excess deaths. Did more people die after getting the vaccine than otherwise normally would have? Did more people die after getting covid than otherwise normally would have?

One individual instance of death after either is insignificant in terms of determining causation.
Wouldn't it be great to look at excess deaths annually for two comparisons:

What are net increase in deaths attributable to Covid?

Of those deaths, which population groups are most at risk?

With national/global concern, we should soon be seeing 2020 totals from around the globe. This information would greatly inform all slowdown/shutdown/lockdown/emergency rules decisions that are now slamming the economically vulnerable and the mentally vulnerable.

Vaccine efficacy data probably will not be really useful for a couple years as the epidemiologists separate signal/noise issues. Since the same vaccine research teams had taken the past five or more years using this new RNA technology to get better flu vaccines, without any approvals from global/national health regulators until the Covid emergency approvals with minimal testing, we should probably not have great hopes for significant efficacy.

The Placebo effect, given the outsized fears of many, should be enough to make these "new, improved" flu vaccines, "now available in Covid flavor", a public success.

(unless the unintended vaccine consequences related to the lack of time series safety data is ginormous.....if the Covid kills/damages a very few young people, we would reasonably expect the vaccine to kill/damage less, imo....)



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Wouldn't it be great to look at excess deaths annually for two comparisons:

What are net increase in deaths attributable to Covid?

Of those deaths, which population groups are most at risk?

With national/global concern, we should soon be seeing 2020 totals from around the globe. This information would greatly inform all slowdown/shutdown/lockdown/emergency rules decisions that are now slamming the economically vulnerable and the mentally vulnerable.

Vaccine efficacy data probably will not be really useful for a couple years as the epidemiologists separate signal/noise issues. Since the same vaccine research teams had taken the past five or more years using this new RNA technology to get better flu vaccines, without any approvals from global/national health regulators until the Covid emergency approvals with minimal testing, we should probably not have great hopes for significant efficacy.

The Placebo effect, given the outsized fears of many, should be enough to make these "new, improved" flu vaccines, "now available in Covid flavor", a public success.

(unless the unintended vaccine consequences related to the lack of time series safety data is ginormous.....if the Covid kills/damages a very few young people, we would reasonably expect the vaccine to kill/damage less, imo....)



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We have done that, although I know many here will discount the CDC numbers. This is from October so a bit out of date, but you get the gist. Incidentally deaths were actually lower among the youngest age group, most likely due to a lot less driving which is a big cause of death for young people.

Overall, numbers of deaths among persons aged <25 years were 2.0% below average, and among adults aged 45–64, 65–74 years, 75–84, and ≥85 years were 14.4%, 24.1%, 21.5%, and 14.7% above average, respectively.

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/excess_deaths.htm
 
I still don't know why the world hasn't made China into a smoldering crater. I'm dumbfounded by the lack of extreme anger.
 
I still don't know why the world hasn't made China into a smoldering crater. I'm dumbfounded by the lack of extreme anger.

Because they make egg rolls and Kung Pao
 
Because they make egg rolls and Kung Pao

How easily things get buried when they're focused on some lab altered virus. Stuff burns my *** they left all of those ******** fly out of Wuhan around the world, but not the rest of China.

You'll never get the truth out of those commie ********. Anyone who knows the truth is either dead or in prison. Well aside from a few scientists who got out of Dodge and dropped dime on their *** about altered protein spikes
 
I still don't know why the world hasn't made China into a smoldering crater. I'm dumbfounded by the lack of extreme anger.

Because they supply the whole world with almost everything and own half of it.
 
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