The Coronavirus thread

[Tim Steelersfan]

Tibs: We have under-reported on Rona!!!
AlsoTibs: Cases are dropping

Not shocking. This article, that I previously posted, that should appear on EVERY page of this thread, describes Tibs (and Flog) exactly. Stunningly perfectly. After reading the article, scroll back to their posts. It's 100% dead spot on.

They sadly are not alone and there's countless out there, brainwashed by their ridiculous media, through constant fear porn, into believing everything they've been told about COVID. Because they are such lemmings, and loyal soldiers, they cannot or will not see through the inconsistencies they've been fed. Therefore, they still pledge allegiance to Corona, spout these contradictions, and never ever question what they are told. They touted the science, as the article says, then steered away from it.

Most bizarre thing I've seen a collective populous do in my life I think. It's Jim Jones-Guyana-like.

Report: Some Liberals Have Trouble Quitting Coronavirus Lockdowns

Some left-wing Americans are having trouble emerging from coronavirus lockdowns, according to a new report in the Atlantic.

www.breitbart.com

(from the Atlantic, mind you): ...some ordinary Americans of liberal political persuasions have become so committed to lockdowns that they are having trouble returning to normal life...Lurking among the jubilant Americans venturing back out to bars and planning their summer-wedding travel is a different group: liberals who aren’t quite ready to let go of pandemic restrictions. For this subset, diligence against COVID-19 remains an expression of political identity—even when that means overestimating the disease’s risks or setting limits far more strict than what public-health guidelines permit...But this is a different story, about progressives who stressed the scientific evidence, and then veered away from it.

 

[Superman]

Anyone thinking an 18 year old lost $102,000 in a years time for the reasons stated in that article would need to be institutionalized.
The article doesn't even make it to baloney level.

speaking of baloney level and bullshitting... how's that book coming? still stuck on the foreword?

 

[Superman]

Not shocking. This article, that I previously posted, that should appear on EVERY page of this thread, describes Tibs (and Flog) exactly. Stunningly perfectly. After reading the article, scroll back to their posts. It's 100% dead spot on.

They sadly are not alone and there's countless out there, brainwashed by their ridiculous media, through constant fear porn, into believing everything they've been told about COVID. Because they are such lemmings, and loyal soldiers, they cannot or will not see through the inconsistencies they've been fed. Therefore, they still pledge allegiance to Corona, spout these contradictions, and never ever question what they are told. They touted the science, as the article says, then steered away from it.

Most bizarre thing I've seen a collective populous do in my life I think. It's Jim Jones-Guyana-like.

Report: Some Liberals Have Trouble Quitting Coronavirus Lockdowns

Some left-wing Americans are having trouble emerging from coronavirus lockdowns, according to a new report in the Atlantic.

www.breitbart.com

(from the Atlantic, mind you): ...some ordinary Americans of liberal political persuasions have become so committed to lockdowns that they are having trouble returning to normal life...Lurking among the jubilant Americans venturing back out to bars and planning their summer-wedding travel is a different group: liberals who aren’t quite ready to let go of pandemic restrictions. For this subset, diligence against COVID-19 remains an expression of political identity—even when that means overestimating the disease’s risks or setting limits far more strict than what public-health guidelines permit...But this is a different story, about progressives who stressed the scientific evidence, and then veered away from it.

but wait ... there's also Flog who sequesters himself in a closet (double entendre intended) and calls for mask after mask after mask mandate, giddily cheering on anything that keeps the population en masse from clogging his travel time.

a travel time that he benefitted from when he went to Key West.

i cannot imagine the absolute fear he had when he left his closet after a year. he had to wash his hands after touching the closet door, then wash them again after touching the soap, and wash again after touching the faucet, then remove the nails from his front door, and wash his hands after touching every nail, then wash again after touching the soap, and wash again after touching the faucet, then wash again after touching the hammer, then wash again after touching the soap and wash again after touching the faucet, then wash his hands after putting the nails in the garbage can, then wash again after touching the soap, and wash again after touching the faucet ...

bet it took him a full ******* day just to get a bag of garbage into the outside bin and roll it to the curb, while going through a box of masks.

 

[Tim Steelersfan]

Anyone thinking an 18 year old lost $102,000 in a years time for the reasons stated in that article would need to be institutionalized.
The article doesn't even make it to baloney level.

You're clearly not that bright. The article isn't talking about in a year. It's over lifetime. Actually, now I dissuade you from writing your Homer, your #1 upcoming, smash-hit best selling novel.

One, this article is a summarization of an article run in the Wall Street Journal, written in part by a Hoover Institute economist.

Two, their analysis is spot on. They compare, then contrast age groups by the amount COVID affected them - lifestyle, economically, deaths. Like 85 year olds are 2,000 times more likely to die from COVID than an 18 year old). Your side just says "COVID kills everyone, everyone mask up, everyone lock down...." The one-size-fits-all approach you all gullibly follow.

Three, their reasons (below) are indeed sound. You just can't seem to cognitively understand. Let me provide you some critical thought:

• reduced schooling - having a lower level of education directly affects someone's future ability to earn. Collectively the world agrees students have been drastically harmed this past year. Virtual learning has failed our students miserably, so much so many districts are considering having students repeat the year. $$$
• reduced economic activity - pretty obvious; both my sons work hard. They couldn't for months. Then when they could, workloads were reduced. In the course of a year, even as small wage earners, their earning was cut. They made less than they could have. $$$
• increased substance abuse - How do you put a price on this? For those young people that developed or had their addictions worsen, they have a literal price to pay...for their substance as they use more of it, for their future medical bills, for rehab. $$$
• more loneliness - depression and associated costs (therapy, drugs); this affects people's daily demeanor and motivation. Hard to measure but this will hurt a pocketbook.
• reduced contact with loved ones - see above, very similar reasoning. This brings people down, reduces motivation, increases chances of depression.
• delayed cancer diagnoses - this is huge. Delaying cancer checks/diagnoses leads to higher medical bills that can eclipse $102,000 in a split second.
• delayed childhood vaccinations - hmmm, coud delaying vaccinations for kids mean more kids get sick, which costs money? I dunno, call me stupid, but I think so....
• increased anxiety - anxious people are less productive at work. Anxiety can be of many countless different forms, so I won't broad brush, but suffice it to say, having anxiety is not an asset to any wage earner and likely has an associated cost of treatment, or an offset in earnings due to fears the individual can't seem to overcome.
• lower wage growth - This is a BIG one. The lack of education these students received this past year will have a direct, tangible effect (a negative one) on their future earning power. For some, this could mean tens of thousands of potential future dollars lost.
• travel restrictions - travel is essential to personal commerce. I do well in my career. I did poorer last year because my ability to travel was revoked. Reduced travel will mean reduced wages for many.
• and fewer opportunities for socializing and building friendships - personally I think this is big. The old saying goes, it's not what you know it's who you know. Socializing is key to business and success in many areas of life. Socializing is a needed skill for success. Those that master it do better in life. We took a whole generation and taught them how to live at home and to not interact. Many in their formative years. Who will never re-adjust. This should be a big dollar contributor to the $102K.

If anything, I think the writers of this article undersold the dollar amount and went ultraconservative in their valuations. I wouldn't scoff at the notion that it may cost these kids $250K across their lifetimes. And it still may go higher.

Try some critical thought.

 

[Steeler Pride]

https://covid19.healthdata.org/united-states-of-america?view=cumulative-deaths&tab=trend

Take a look a the China Virus Tracker...apparently the fear has been waning, so now they have updated their tracker with a "total deaths" which is DOUBLE what the reported deaths are now. You can't make this **** up.

 

[Steeltime]

We are all still waiting for any Liberal, especially HypoFlog, to point out what Beijing Joe has done to increase the supply and distribution of the vaccines.....

Well, it's not like somebody asked him three times very specifically to identify exactly what Xiden did to foster distribution of the vaccine. I will give Xiden credit for doing some PSA's. Like McGruff, the crime dog. Beijing Basement Boy - an older, dumber, crankier, stupider, confused McGruff.

 

[Superman]

that's some sneaky **** there, @Steeler Pride

your link says:

948,859total COVID-19 deaths
based on Current projection scenario by September 1, 2021


while worldometers says:

Deaths:​

594,059

Interesting that over the summer we'll see almost 400k deaths in this country due to Rona.

anyone seen the Flu Bug over the past year?

 

[Steeler Pride]

that's some sneaky **** there, @Steeler Pride

your link says:

948,859total COVID-19 deaths
based on Current projection scenario by September 1, 2021


while worldometers says:

Deaths:​

594,059

Interesting that over the summer we'll see almost 400k deaths in this country due to Rona.

anyone seen the Flu Bug over the past year?

Combine that with their synopsis, that basically says that due to underreporting, poor testing...etc, they are estimating the additional deaths that make up their "Total deaths" number. So basically, anyone that dies for any reason can be labeled as a Covid death to pad their numbers. Mind you, this is the same tracker that Fauci and the rest of the Covid team constantly reference and refer people to. So as of May 1, 2021, they are claiming total US deaths as 903k, while the actual reported deaths show as 572k. Again, no proof, no science, no test, just pull it out of our *** to make it look worse. Total bullshit.

 

[Superman]

Combine that with their synopsis, that basically says that due to underreporting, poor testing...etc, they are estimating the additional deaths that make up their "Total deaths" number. So basically, anyone that dies for any reason can be labeled as a Covid death to pad their numbers. Mind you, this is the same tracker that Fauci and the rest of the Covid team constantly reference and refer people to. So as of May 1, 2021, they are claiming total US deaths as 903k, while the actual reported deaths show as 572k. Again, no proof, no science, no test, just pull it out of our *** to make it look worse. Total bullshit.

 

[Steeler Pride]

LMAO, David Copperfield couldn't pull off an illusion this grandiose.

 

[Steelworth]

Thank you President Biden for your stellar leadership! I agree, Supe.

Xiden is definitely the President of the people:

 

[Steelworth]

Anyone thinking an 18 year old lost $102,000 in a years time for the reasons stated in that article would need to be institutionalized.
The article doesn't even make it to baloney level.

How about malarkey level?

 

[Ron Burgundy]

(from the Atlantic, mind you): ...some ordinary Americans of liberal political persuasions have become so committed to lockdowns that they are having trouble returning to normal life...Lurking among the jubilant Americans venturing back out to bars and planning their summer-wedding travel is a different group: liberals who aren’t quite ready to let go of pandemic restrictions. For this subset, diligence against COVID-19 remains an expression of political identity—even when that means overestimating the disease’s risks or setting limits far more strict than what public-health guidelines permit...But this is a different story, about progressives who stressed the scientific evidence, and then veered away from it.

I think it's mostly a matter of Liberals being control freaks who want the government to micromanage everyone's lives (as long as Democrats are in charge) and the pandemic gave them a reason to do it. Freedom and liberty are skeery.

 

[Troglodyte]

For the love of God show me where I've said partial vaccination doesn't do anything? As I have referenced before, partially vaccinated citizens + natural immunity already has us where we are. Me waiting for a vaccine I trust more than what's out there is my choice, is in my opinion smart, and isn't slowing the healing we are rapidly seeing one bit. Cases dropping, hospitalizations WAY down, deaths from COVID DRASTICALLY down.

You support the draconian view that 100% of Americans must be vaccinated for us to heal. Complete, dire ignorance. You say you follow "germ theory." How about general science? You and your side continue to dismiss natural immunity and herd immunity, just as if not more important to battling COVID than vaccines.

Vaccine hesitancy is indeed slowing down the return to normal. I could give a **** about Herd immunity or however many have been vaccinated as long as everyone who wants a vaccine has been able to get one. Again, when we get to that point, I will officially be anti-mask mandate.

“Draconian” Governor Wolf has said the mask mandate will end when PA has reached 70% vaccination. Not helping matters is ideologically motivated dumbFucker Carlson and his “vaccines are killing people” nonsense.

 

[Troglodyte]

Flog, can you stop flogging the dolphin long enough to tell us exactly what Biden did to promote the vaccinations he now takes credit for? Link, please.

Third time I've asked.

Well, for starters, he publicly got vaccinated instead of keeping it a secret.

 

[Steeltime]

Well, for starters, he publicly got vaccinated instead of keeping it a secret.

Okay, the level of stupid on your post is astounding. That's it? He got the vaccine that Trump's administration brought to market? THAT'S IT?

Oh, and dumbass, how exactly would President Trump have received the vaccine "publicly" when he got the Chinese flu on October 3, 2020 and the vaccine was not first available until December 11, 2020 - more than two months later??

Pfizer/BioNTech’s COVID-19 Vaccine Gets Nod from FDA Committee

The committee voted 17 to 4 to recommend authorizing the first COVID-19 vaccine in the U.S.

time.com

So your theory is that somebody who had the virus and recovered and has antibodies to the Chinese flu and can't get the Chinese flu again should get a vaccine for the virus he can't get?

Congratulations, you freeloading dimwit, on the stupidest comment of the year. You beat out vigorous competition from 21IQ and Decaf for the "honor."

 

[Superman]

Vaccine hesitancy is indeed slowing down the return to normal. I could give a **** about Herd immunity or however many have been vaccinated as long as everyone who wants a vaccine has been able to get one. Again, when we get to that point, I will officially be anti-mask mandate.

“Draconian” Governor Wolf has said the mask mandate will end when PA has reached 70% vaccination. Not helping matters is ideologically motivated dumbFucker Carlson and his “vaccines are killing people” nonsense.

where oh where is this land of make-believe of people in this country who want the vaccine but have not been able to get it? it's been made available at drug stores, supermarkets, in mall parking lots, just about every ******* where anyone who wants the vaccine could possibly go to get it. Either by walking, scooter, car, bus, bike or skateboard. it's available quite ******* literally everywhere. There has been a massive roll-out of the vaccine thanks to Operation Warp Speed. Anyone who wants it can get it - unless they have some medical reason preventing them from getting it.

But, please, tell us where masses of people huddle, shaking in the cold, in fear of the WuhanFlu who are unable to get the vaccine.

 

[Steeltime]

I asked two days ago, without response, three simple questions. Given the fact that the Chinese flu experts Flog and Decaf ignored the questions, I will ask them again:

• How many people died in 1976 due to the swine flu vaccine?
• What did the Federal government do in response?
• How many people to date have died due to the Chinese flu vaccine?

Three pretty simple questions that bear discussion. Flog, Decaf, can you answer the questions?

 

[Steelworth]

Again, when we get to that point, I will officially be anti-mask mandate.

You're still bamboozled that masks have such high efficacy in the spreading of this virus that you're for mask mandates? At least the ****** ones they're pushing, not true N95 masks? California has like a 95% mask compliance rate (I see morons driving in their car ALONE with a mask on) and we are the most infected state with the most deaths.

Yes, I understand we're the most populated state - but if you compare the percentages of infection & death rate to a free state like Florida with minimal to no mask mandates, there's no real difference in the numbers.

 

[LeXX75]

I got the Moderna shot and started feeling sick the next day. I felt bad enough I had to leave work halfway through the day. My wife had the same side effects.
Then there is my sister. She got Moderna also, she's a college professor in Ohio and had to hang on to desks for two days teaching her classes, could barely move her arms and legs, and my brother-in-law took her to the ER on Friday. She has an appointment with a neurologist next week.

Got 2nd 1 yesterday arm minor swelling..feel a bit baked other than that fine so far...zero affect from 1st shot

 

[Steeltime]

You're still bamboozled that masks have such high efficacy in the spreading of this virus that you're for mask mandates? At least the ****** ones they're pushing, not true N95 masks? California has like a 95% mask compliance rate (I see morons driving in their car ALONE with a mask on) and we are the most infected state with the most deaths.

"Those crazy 5% are driving the infection rate and death toll. Masks work. I cannot cite a single study showing they work, I cannot refute several studies showing they don't work, but dammit, they work! Cuz science."

/s Floggy the Freeloader

 

[IndySteel]

"Those crazy 5% are driving the infection rate and death toll. Masks work. I cannot cite a single study showing they work, I cannot refute several studies showing they don't work, but dammit, they work! Cuz science."

/s Floggy the Freeloading Tree ******

FIFY

 

[Troglodyte]

Okay, the level of stupid on your post is astounding. That's it? He got the vaccine that Trump's administration brought to market? THAT'S IT?

Oh, and dumbass, how exactly would President Trump have received the vaccine "publicly" when he got the Chinese flu on October 3, 2020 and the vaccine was not first available until December 11, 2020 - more than two months later??

Pfizer/BioNTech’s COVID-19 Vaccine Gets Nod from FDA Committee

The committee voted 17 to 4 to recommend authorizing the first COVID-19 vaccine in the U.S.

time.com

So your theory is that somebody who had the virus and recovered and has antibodies to the Chinese flu and can't get the Chinese flu again should get a vaccine for the virus he can't get?

Congratulations, you freeloading dimwit, on the stupidest comment of the year. You beat out vigorous competition from 21IQ and Decaf for the "honor."

What the **** does Trump having Covid have to do with him being vaccinated PRIVATELY IN JANUARY AT THE WHITE HOUSE?

And YES, they are recommending that even people that have recently had Covid get vaccinated. Step out of your ******* bubble!

 

[21STEELERS21]

The article just says young people and doesn't even tell you the age range they are attributing the 102K too. It also seems to be assuming these young people spent
there Covid experience locked in a closet. I am sure many young people used their time wisely and enhanced their education, relationships, etc... Some might have been enterprising enough to start an on-line business with the time. Maybe Covid prevented some drug users from getting drugs and they were able to get clean. The article
just Assumes and you know what happens when you Assume.

 

[Steelworth]

Some might have been enterprising enough to start an on-line business with the time.

Or even start writing a book.