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The Coronavirus thread

And some of you may also want to read up on the actual realities of how the Covid vaccines were developed, and what a massive, collaborative, international effort it took to actually create the vaccines.

Operation Warpspeed was an important component of a larger, worldwide effort to develop an adequate vaccine. It was not some stand-alone thing that happened in a vaccum.

I know you anti-globalists won’t be overjoyed, but who cares about that?
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Internationally, the Access to COVID-19 Tools Accelerator is a G20 and World Health Organization (WHO) initiative announced in April 2020.[46][47] It is a cross-discipline support structure to enable partners to share resources and knowledge. It comprises four pillars, each managed by two to three collaborating partners: Vaccines (also called "COVAX"), Diagnostics, Therapeutics, and Health Systems Connector.[48] The WHO's April 2020 "R&D Blueprint (for the) novel Coronavirus" documented a "large, international, multi-site, individually randomized controlled clinical trial" to allow "the concurrent evaluation of the benefits and risks of each promising candidate vaccine within 3–6 months of it being made available for the trial." The WHO vaccine coalition will prioritize which vaccines should go into Phase II and III clinical trials, and determine harmonized Phase III protocols for all vaccines achieving the pivotal trial stage.[49]

National governments have also been involved in vaccine development. Canada announced funding for 96 research vaccine research projects at Canadian companies and universities, with plans to establish a "vaccine bank" that could be used if another coronavirus outbreak occurs,[50] and to support clinical trials and develop manufacturing and supply chains for vaccines.[51] China provided low-rate loans to a vaccine developer through its central bank and "quickly made land available for the company" to build production plants.[31] Three Chinese vaccine companies and research institutes are supported by the government for financing research, conducting clinical trials, and manufacturing.[52] Great Britain formed a COVID‑19 vaccine task force in April 2020 to stimulate local efforts for accelerated development of a vaccine through collaborations of industry, universities, and government agencies. It encompassed every phase of development from research to manufacturing.[53] In the United States, the Biomedical Advanced Research and Development Authority (BARDA), a federal agency funding disease-fighting technology, announced investments to support American COVID‑19 vaccine development and manufacture of the most promising candidates.[31][54] In May 2020, the government announced funding for a fast-track program called Operation Warp Speed.[55][56]

Large pharmaceutical companies with experience in making vaccines at scale, including Johnson & Johnson, AstraZeneca, and GlaxoSmithKline (GSK), formed alliances with biotechnology companies, governments, and universities to accelerate progression to an effective vaccine.[31][30]


This is also a good read >


Worldwide collaboration​

Under normal circumstances, making a vaccine can take up to 10–15 years. This is because of the complexity of vaccine development.

Dr. Michael Parry, the chair of Infectious Diseases at Stamford Health in Stamford, CT, told MNT that vaccines train our immune system to remember an infectious agent — without our having to contract it.

“Traditionally, they have contained weakened or inactivated parts of a particular virus (antigen) to trigger an immune response within the body. These vaccines will prompt the immune system to respond, much as it would have on its first reaction to the actual pathogen.”

However, amid a global pandemic, time was a luxury the world could not afford. Researchers quickly mobilized to share their coronavirus data with other scientists.

Dr. Yager said that thanks to advances in genomic sequencing, researchers successfully uncovered the viral sequence of SARS-CoV-2 in January 2020 — roughly 10 days after the first reported pneumonia cases in Wuhan, China. The ability to fast-track research and clinical trials was a direct result of this worldwide cooperation.
 
Decaf, you really should crawl back into you white-supremacy hidey-hole after the beatdown TSF gave you about the vaccine. You quoted the lying liars in the White House to argue the point, when every person with an intellect equal to or greater than a horse knew the claim was a lie, proven to be a lie, and one in fact the White House later "revised" when confronted with the truth.

In remarks at a Pfizer manufacturing site, President Joe Biden made misleading claims while boasting about his administration’s progress in getting Americans vaccinated against COVID-19.
  • Biden claimed that the Trump administration had “failed to order enough vaccines.” It had contracts in place for plenty of vaccines for all Americans, provided other vaccines gained authorization; Biden increased the orders from the two companies with authorized vaccines.
  • The president claimed there was “no real plan to vaccinate most of the country” when he took office. There was indeed a plan to acquire and distribute vaccines. The Biden administration has done more on increasing vaccination sites.
  • Biden exaggerated when he claimed that vaccinations have “nearly doubled” on his watch. Even measured at its peak, the seven-day rolling average has gone up 67%.
  • He said Moody’s Analytics estimated that if his full COVID-19 relief plan becomes law, “the economy will create 7 million jobs this year.” But the financial services firm said 3.5 million of those jobs would be created regardless.
  • Biden said without his COVID-19 relief plan, 40 million Americans would lose their benefits under the federal nutrition program. To add context, Biden’s plan would extend a 15% benefit increase enacted in December for an additional three months.


What idiot - what stupid, stuttering, imbecile, moron, clown-car driving half-wit - believes that Trump had "no Covid vaccine plan in place" as of January 20, 2021 when as of that date, the plan in effect was delivering 1 million ******* vaccines per day?!?

Oh, Stacy Decaf. Sorry, forgot.

Stacy, stop reading and vomiting stupid **** you read on Media Matters.
 
I know that it is a really tough and hard day for you Floggy, and I'm sure you're emotional. Your Liberal Badge is no longer forced upon the American people.

You're also not following the history here. The CDC has been telling people for months that they need to wear the masks even when vaccinated. Clearly you have been alive during this time period, yes? But you've been in your bubble....

This week, the testing and studies released backed the CDC into a corner. For instance, not one case, not ONE, on the entire planet, of someone catching COVID outdoors while walking, running, kayaking, taking their dog for a **** has been found. Not one. None. Zilch.

Numerous studies were released showing all of the CDC's masking recommendations for vaccinated people and outdoor masking were bullshit and thus the very quick re-direct.

Praise the true science for exposing the CDC's bullshit. What a GREAT day.
Typically Tim, resorting to a strawman and walking your argument back. The CDC did not say that everyone should stop wearing masks which is what you’ve been arguing for a year. It’s a great day for people who are not afraid of the vaccines.
 
Typically Tim, resorting to a strawman and walking your argument back. The CDC did not say that everyone should stop wearing masks which is what you’ve been arguing for a year. It’s a great day for people who are not afraid of the vaccines.

Still waiting on (1) any published medical data in any legitimate medical source showing that citizens wearing cloth masks does a damn thing to prevent the spread of the Chinese flu and (2) any actual data showing that Trump failed to do [x] which caused [y] deaths.

I think TSF has asked for such data five or six times. This is my third request.

If you have no such data, just admit it. But of course you won't since lying liars never stop telling lies about their lies. Run along now ... I'm sure some young mother is pushing her kid on a swing somewhere without a mask, waiting for Dr. Flog to tear her a new one.
 
Good ******* Lord do you Liberals EVER research???

Even your very own Politifact lists Klain's claims as "MOSTLY FALSE"


  • The Trump administration planned to get the vaccines developed and then send them to locations chosen by states. States wrote their own plans, and they were responsible for setting up places to get vaccines into Americans’ arms.

Klain said Biden was building on progress from the initial wave of vaccinations, "no question about it."

"But the process to distribute the vaccine, particularly outside of nursing homes and hospitals out into the community as a whole did not really exist when we came into the White House," Klain said.

Really? We found that’s taking things too far.

Here is one overview of the distribution plan, which aimed at letting the states (as it should have been) to prioritize and disseminate vaccines based on state guidance.


You might also choose to research the HHS' own guidance, which covers distribution in detail.


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I mean, there's an entire section inside the HHS document that details distribution. Here are some excerpts....

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Based upon the ample evidence out there, and based upon your failed research, we rate your post MOSTLY BULLSHIT and a spread of DISINFORMATION (again).
"But but that don't fit muh narrative of lies and slander" every liberal on this board.
 
Typically Tim, resorting to a strawman and walking your argument back. The CDC did not say that everyone should stop wearing masks which is what you’ve been arguing for a year. It’s a great day for people who are not afraid of the vaccines.

I said: "Your beloved CDC just lifted the mask mandates LMAO!! Seems all those true scientists finally broke through to the junk scientists you've been following eh?"

I'm not walking jack back. The CDC was exposed for their faulty science and are starting to walk back their failed guidance in numerous areas. Today was only phase 1. Their science has been exposed.

I never said "everyone" either. Care to point me to where I may have?

Sorry you're losing your Badge of Liberalism brah.
 
Wow. The cdc said the vac folks are free! Will they adhere to the Shepard or continue to hollow in fear. My bet is they follow the Shepard and the new thing will not be “why you not wearing your Jimmy but let me see your vac card. Ahhh. The times we are in. The times
 
Decaf, you really should crawl back into you white-supremacy hidey-hole after the beatdown TSF gave you about the vaccine.

Yes, there were vaccinations by the time Trump left office in January, at nursing homes, in hospitals, at limited vaccination sites. Significantly, the entire process was left up to the States, do is as you can, as quickly - or as slowly - as you're able to, figure it out on your own. To their credit, they did start rolling out vaccines in early January, to hospitals and sites as requested by various States.

To achieve herd immunity though, roughly 60-70% of the population would need to be vaccinated or be carrying anitbodies.

This would have taken forever if done within the limited scope & structure of the existing distribution plan.

The question is, when were the first nationwide, mass vaccination centers opened in the US? That were organized by the federal government? To put it simply, when was the plan implemented in real terms, to begin widescale vaccination of the public across the nation? Do you know?

If you don't, then kindly shut the **** up.

The date was Feb 3, 2021.


The effort is a change in course from the Trump administration, which left vaccine administration largely to the states.
 
:ROFLMAO: :D :ROFLMAO: :D :ROFLMAO: :D

Thank you Beijing Joe for riding Trump's accomplishments and NOT ******* IT UP. Thank you for doing nothing different than he did and ******* up the machine he put in place.

As you can see, the vertical line was Xiden's first day in office. In December, 3 Million Americans had been vaccinated. 1 million vaccinated on his first day in office. And you can see from the graph, the trajectory never changed.

God bless Trump for putting this into motion.

I'm just disappointed that Joe drove vaccinations down over the past month though. Someone should check into that.

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Why aren’t you praising Biden for the decline in vaccines that YOU YOURSELF REFUSE?
 
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Yes, there were vaccinations by the time Trump left office in January, at nursing homes, in hospitals, at limited vaccination sites. Significantly, the entire process was left up to the States, do is as you can, as quickly - or as slowly - as you're able to, figure it out on your own. To their credit, they did start rolling out vaccines in early January, to hospitals and sites as requested by various States.

To achieve herd immunity though, roughly 60-70% of the population would need to be vaccinated or be carrying anitbodies.

This would have taken forever if done within the limited scope & structure of the existing distribution plan.

The question is, when were the first nationwide, mass vaccination centers opened in the US? That were organized by the federal government? To put it simply, when was the plan implemented in real terms, to begin widescale vaccination of the public across the nation? Do you know?

If you don't, then kindly shut the **** up.

The date was Feb 3, 2021.


The effort is a change in course from the Trump administration, which left vaccine administration largely to the states.
LOL. The federal mass vaccination sites were an expensive, miserable failure and Biden reverted back to supporting the highly localized neighborhood pharmacy plan of the Trump administration.

 
LOL. The federal mass vaccination sites were an expensive, miserable failure

Did the US achieve 200M vaccinations within Biden's first 100 days or did it not? That's an incredible accomplishment.

Now that they've hit a critical mass figure, they're smartly rolling back the huge vaccination centers and changing course with smaller settings, such as pharmacies.

Not too difficult to understand.
 
Yes, there were vaccinations by the time Trump left office in January, at nursing homes, in hospitals, at limited vaccination sites. Significantly, the entire process was left up to the States, do is as you can, as quickly - or as slowly - as you're able to, figure it out on your own. To their credit, they did start rolling out vaccines in early January, to hospitals and sites as requested by various States.

To achieve herd immunity though, roughly 60-70% of the population would need to be vaccinated or be carrying anitbodies.

This would have taken forever if done within the limited scope & structure of the existing distribution plan.

The question is, when were the first nationwide, mass vaccination centers opened in the US? That were organized by the federal government? To put it simply, when was the plan implemented in real terms, to begin widescale vaccination of the public across the nation? Do you know?

If you don't, then kindly shut the **** up.

The date was Feb 3, 2021.


The effort is a change in course from the Trump administration, which left vaccine administration largely to the states.

I'll again point you back to the graph that I showed you. Vaccinations were happening in December and January before Doofus took office. All one need do is look at the trajectory.

IF Doofus had done anything different, anything that would have accelerated the wave of vaccinations, you'd have seen a hockey stick INCREASE in that line. It is literally linear. He jumped onto a trajectory that stayed the same. Literally it didn't change....until April when it hockey-sticked DOWNWARD.

You can bloviate all you want on the details, the facts are undeniable. Trump built the vaccine, he built an apparatus and he built distribution. I'll give Doofus credit for running PSAs and encouraging Americans to get vaccinated.

But this is Trump's victory, color it all you want.

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Why aren’t you praising Biden for the decline in vaccines that YOU YOURSELF REFUSE?

Certain vaccines Flogtard, certain vaccines. For the 93rd time, I'll get vaccinated.

MY BODY MY CHOICE
 
LOL. The federal mass vaccination sites were an expensive, miserable failure and Biden reverted back to supporting the highly localized neighborhood pharmacy plan of the Trump administration.


Yep, Tibs won't look at that. There were like 441 FEMA sites set up to give out vaccines. They FAILED miserably. Like the Gubmint running Amtrak and the USPS.

Now...you can go to an Atlanta Braves game and get it, go to a church and get it, go to doctors offices and get it....kinda just like Trump had set it up to work.

Odd, that.
 
LOL. The federal mass vaccination sites were an expensive, miserable failure and Biden reverted back to supporting the highly localized neighborhood pharmacy plan of the Trump administration.


Don't bother, OFTB. Decaf is on a roll, facts be damned.

Biden oversaw development of the vaccine on January 20, 2021, went into a time machine, got it ready for delivery in early December, fast-forwarded back to January of 2021, opened up hundreds of private vaccination sites, vaccinated a million per day as of January 20, 2021 so he could claim credit for that, got back into this time machine, traveled back to England in 1928, helped Fleming discovery penicillin, back to 2021 where he made sure gas prices skyrocketed cuz global warming/cooling/drought/flood/heat/snow, then back to Detroit on November 30, 1913 to murder Henry Ford and stop global warming/cooling/drought/flood/heat/snow.

Because Joe the Magnificent is that great. Doubt it? Read his recent addresses, containing moving statements such as "We have nothing to fear but Hunter's laptop," and "Mr. Lopez Obrador, tear down this wall" and "Ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for Hunter Biden."
 
Decaf, back to Reddit to find and copy some other bullshit theory that is 100% garbage.
 
Did the US achieve 200M vaccinations within Biden's first 100 days or did it not? That's an incredible accomplishment.

Now that they've hit a critical mass figure, they're smartly rolling back the huge vaccination centers and changing course with smaller settings, such as pharmacies.

Not too difficult to understand.

I'm actually getting tired of posting this.....

In December, 3 Million Americans had been vaccinated. On Joe's first day in office, 1 million alone were vaccinated. Vaccinations were ramping up, distribution and supply were all there. A bomb could have blown up all of Washington DC and pure inertia was going to lead to AT LEAST 100Million Americans being vaccinated in 100 days assuming no growth. But see....there WAS growth going on. 3 million one month...then up to a million a day by Jan 20. It was naturally growing and expanding.

Fact is, by day 100, the 130 Million or so Americans that were vaccinated was going to happen. Nothing, save for a President Pee Pads executive order making the vaccine illegal would have stopped it.

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TSF, see that decline in late February, 2021? Only one explanation:

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Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump ...
Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump
 
Never give up Tim, trying to give disgraced former guy all the credit for what's happening now.

I'm sure former guy appreciates your undying adulation. You've remained loyal through thick and thin, that's quite an achievement. Maybe he'll hire you to mow the grass on his golf courses down in Mar-a-Lago or in Bedminster. (y)
 
Never give up Tim, trying to give disgraced former guy all the credit for what's happening now.

He posted a graph, you imbecile. And what do you turn that into?

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Did the US achieve 200M vaccinations within Biden's first 100 days or did it not? That's an incredible accomplishment.

Now that they've hit a critical mass figure, they're smartly rolling back the huge vaccination centers and changing course with smaller settings, such as pharmacies.

Not too difficult to understand.
The article was written in March. The federal mass vaccination sites underperformed in terms of numbers from the beginning. 67,000/day vs. a million/day in the pharmacies.

It's an incredible accomplishment made possible largely by the Trump administration. Biden had little to do with it.
 
The article was written in March. The federal mass vaccination sites underperformed in terms of numbers from the beginning. 67,000/day vs. a million/day in the pharmacies.

It's an incredible accomplishment made possible largely by the Trump administration. Biden had little to do with it.

Stacy Decaf offers a new and startling response about the millions vaccinated before Beijing Joe took office:

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Not Trump, not Trump, not Trump
 
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