Covid Vaccine
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Did a little digging, no coroner's report or cause of death published anywhere that I can find. No news articles or any quotes from family members implying they suspect a vaccine related death or want it looked into. Strange don't you think? It's almost like she died from something else and they know it. Her Dad still has his "I got my vaccine" pic up. https://www.facebook.com/chuck.huffman.1620 Year Old Wayne State University Pre-Med Student Hadley Huffman Dies Unexpectedly After Covid Shot
Hadley Huffman of Michigan passed away unexpectedly on June 15, 2021 not long after her second covid shot. Family and friends shared their grievances on social media and we are thankful they did. There are many stories like Hadley’s going untold at the moment, and it is problematic.
Hadley appeared to be fit and active. She was obviously health conscience after having transferred from University of Arizona to be enrolled in a pre-med program at Wayne State University in Michigan. She had a bright future, and her life was taken too soon.
Hadley is said to have been a social butterfly with a magnetic personality. Her personality lit up a room. She was the type of person who had never met a stranger. She joined many causes, fought for equality, and had friends all over the world.
According to her obituary Hadley also started the Students Against Medical Racism Non-profit (SAMR) at Wayne State to bring attention to the injustices in medical access for bi-racial and people of color (BIPOC).
It is unclear what brand of vaccine Hadley was injected with but if I had to guess, I would predict that she had Pfizer due to their presence in Michigan. We do know that she had two doses and that she had hopes of things getting back to normal after her vaccination.
The timing of Hadley’s death is similar to that of 13 year old Jacob Clynick, who was also from Michigan. He died in June three days after a Pfizer shot that he received from a Walgreens.
Jacob is said to have died in his sleep and had no known health issues. He was on no medication at the time of his death, according to his Aunt.
Do you have any evidence her death was vaccine related, or even suspected to be vaccine related, beyond the fact that she got a vaccine and died two months later?
I just saw this Timmy (I posted this graph later today in response to that criminal Fraudci saying that vaccines should be mandated in schools), but I see we're on the same page here. What a travesty of epic proportions.
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Using your logic....have you bothered to look at the map in more detail. Do you know what the white areas are? "No recently reported cases."
Ya know where those areas predominantly are? You guessed it. Montana, ND, SD, Nebraska, Iowa, Kansas, Oklahoma, Texas - vast swaths of no cases. Red states. There are vastly more NO CASES REPORTED areas than hotspots. Hmmmmm indeed.
Yer welcome.
OFTB, you're a typically reasonable person. Not sure why you haven't addressed this & provided examples of what conservatives are advancing (other than fringe lunatics).
Meanwhile, I'm just seeing more and more examples of this:
Is it typical to have someone coroners report published publicly? I seriously don’t know that question but seems like hippa to me.
Do I think it’s strange that a family that just lost their daughter to not be posting publicly about it, no. If that were me I’d still be at the end of some bottle in a gutter somewhere.
has “any” report come out regarding a person who died soon after the poke said “yup this was the cause”. ….nope(well at least to my knowledge). It’s always the same bs…. Unsure the cause, not sure if it’s related….etc. I’m sure some cases could be, but the blatant covering up and the lack of transparency for something that is getting crammed down our throats is appalling.
Could this young lady died because of a hazing bing incident…sure. But I don’t think so.
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I know, without a shadow of a doubt that Tibs and Flog are not reading the VAERS reporting. If they were, they'd see and admit that something is REALLY ****** up with the Vaccine. Here are just a few examples, in order, not cherry picked for impact. The first column is the deceased age. then gender. That's right, all five died.
16 | 16 | F | The day after vaccination, father states that child returned from track practice feeling tired. She went to lay down and he found her face down on her bed, unresponsive and cyanotic. | ||
16 | 16 | F | Patient was a 16yr female who received Pfizer vaccine 3/19/21 at vaccine clinic and presented with ongoing CPR to the ED 3/28/21 after cardiac arrest at home. Patient placed on ECMO and imaging revealed bilateral large pulmonary embolism as likely etiology of arrest. Risk factors included oral contraceptive use. Labs have since confirmed absence of Factor V leiden or prothrombin gene mutation. Patient declared dead by neurologic criteria 3/30/21. | ||
16 | 16 | M | Prodrome of headache and gastric upset over 2 days following second dose. Then felt fine. Found the following day dead in bed. Autopsy pending | ||
16 | 16 | F | ~4 weeks after the 2nd dose of Pfizer, patient presented to the hospital with chest pain; had pericardial effusion. Initially improved but then had decompensation, prolonged hospitalization. Diagnosed with hemophagocytic lymphohistocytosis (HLH) and ultimately died. | ||
17 | 17 | F | Patient reported difficulty breathing and chest pain; suffered cardiac arrest and death |
Stop sniffing glue. No way they would
First of all, Floggy told us all, no kids have died because of the vax. And this was just a sample? I'd love a link and to research more.
Second, how horrifying. How can anyone not see the connection? If these were 60, 70, 80 year olds having heart attacks, I would grant to you there was a likelihood they weren't correlated. But wtf?
A 16 YEAR OLD GIRL is cyanotic - marked by or causing a bluish or purplish discoloration (as of the skin and mucous membranes) due to deficient oxygenation of the blood??
A 16 YEAR OLD GIRL had cardiac arrest at home with a large pulmonary embolism??
A 16 YEAR OLD GIRL with pericardial effusion then has hemophagocytic lymphohistocytosis (a condition in which the body makes too many activated immune cells (macrophages and lymphocytes)
A 17 YEAR OLD GIRL dies of a heart attack??
Come on people. At least in the past with numerous vaccines that went bad - Anthrax vaccines, the bad doses of polio vaccines, and several others - the government stepped forward and stopped the vaccinations. Instead there is a full-on push for 100% of mankind to take these vaccines beyond the likes of anything we have ever seen. I don't get it.
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Dude, you really cannot read a heat map. Montana, Texas and Oklahoma all have dark red counties.
Look again and look closely Floggy. White spaces. WHITE. White areas. NO cases. They far outnumber hot spots. Hot spots are dark red/orange. Yellow areas aren't hot spots. In fact, the light orange is 30 cases or fewer per 100K.
Where are they predominantly? Go on, you passed first grade and can spot colors and count right?
The heartland is kicking ***. Hell even Liberal Minnesota is full of "no cases" counties.
White spaces are racist.
Where you live, FloggedbyFauci™? Just found out we need a professional cherry-picker, and by the looks of it, you may be world champion.
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Opinion: Tennessee vaccine official's story reveals an ugly truth about GOP and children's rights
Jill Filipovic writes that the danger inherent in ideological partisan divides over Covid-19 vaccination is evident in Tennessee, where the firing of Dr. Michelle Fiscus reinforces the enduring irony that the GOP, the "pro-life" party, doesn't believe that children, including teens, have basic...
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Hundreds of millions of people have gotten these vaccines. It's a mathematical reality that some people will die within some short period of time after receiving them. Even a very few young healthy people, because a very few young healthy people die of various causes every week, every month and every year. That is in no way evidence that the vaccine caused their death. That's not science, that's fear mongering. Something we've been accusing our government of for the past year but now for some reason some on the right have embraced it.
99% of covid deaths right now are in unvaccinated people. This vaccine fear mongering is costing people their lives.
Nearly all COVID deaths in US are now among unvaccinated
Nearly all COVID-19 deaths in the U.S. now are in people who weren’t vaccinated, a staggering demonstration of how effective the shots have been and an indication that deaths per day — now down to under 300 — could be practically zero if everyone eligible got the vaccine.
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I love how Floggy and Tibs keep screaming red states red states. So I thought I'd poke around a bit and picked Texas. A state with some hot spots. A state with counties that have no cases. Interesting data.
Texas has 254 Counties.
Didja know....
48 of those counties have NO reported cases of COVID? That's 18.9%
76 of those counties are listed as <1 cases reported daily. That's 29.9%
19 counties report 1 case per day. That's 7.5%
56.3% of Texas counties are reporting 1 or fewer cases a day with nearly 20% of their counties having no cases at all.
Fucken red states.
Texas has 254 Counties.
Didja know....
48 of those counties have NO reported cases of COVID? That's 18.9%
76 of those counties are listed as <1 cases reported daily. That's 29.9%
19 counties report 1 case per day. That's 7.5%
56.3% of Texas counties are reporting 1 or fewer cases a day with nearly 20% of their counties having no cases at all.
Fucken red states.
I call it a cause for pause. A cause for a person, a family, to make a medical determination, based on their circumstances on to get or forgo the poke. For me I’ll wait.Hundreds of millions of people have gotten these vaccines. It's a mathematical reality that some people will die within some short period of time after receiving them. Even a very few young healthy people, because a very few young healthy people die of various causes every week, every month and every year. That is in no way evidence that the vaccine caused their death. That's not science, that's fear mongering. Something we've been accusing our government of for the past year but now for some reason some on the right have embraced it.
99% of covid deaths right now are in unvaccinated people. This vaccine fear mongering is costing people their lives.
Nearly all COVID deaths in US are now among unvaccinated
Nearly all COVID-19 deaths in the U.S. now are in people who weren’t vaccinated, a staggering demonstration of how effective the shots have been and an indication that deaths per day — now down to under 300 — could be practically zero if everyone eligible got the vaccine.
people are pressured into this by the media, friends, work, their govt…etc. it should not be the case.
Opinion: Tennessee vaccine official's story reveals an ugly truth about GOP and children's rights
Jill Filipovic writes that the danger inherent in ideological partisan divides over Covid-19 vaccination is evident in Tennessee, where the firing of Dr. Michelle Fiscus reinforces the enduring irony that the GOP, the "pro-life" party, doesn't believe that children, including teens, have basic...
Wow, what a crock of ****. I'm stupider for having read that. First it's an opinion piece, not a news article. Second, it came from CNN, an agency that admitted it has been pushing fear porn over COVID for political reasons. Third, I should have stopped at this point: "Vaccinations, long rightly heralded as miracles of modern medicine that have saved millions of lives, are suddenly ideologically divisive along party lines."
Where the opinion writer fails is by lumping these vaccines in with ALL vaccines and calling them equals.
They are not. The rest of the vaccines I have had and everyone else get are TESTED vaccines. Tested for years. Tested on animals. Tested in control groups.
These vaccines weren't.
So at the very beginning of the OPINION piece, she starts off by equating these vaccines with other vaccines and infers they are normal and the same.
Wrong.
Hundreds of millions of people have gotten these vaccines. It's a mathematical reality that some people will die within some short period of time after receiving them. Even a very few young healthy people, because a very few young healthy people die of various causes every week, every month and every year. That is in no way evidence that the vaccine caused their death. That's not science, that's fear mongering. Something we've been accusing our government of for the past year but now for some reason some on the right have embraced it.
99% of covid deaths right now are in unvaccinated people. This vaccine fear mongering is costing people their lives.
Nearly all COVID deaths in US are now among unvaccinated
Nearly all COVID-19 deaths in the U.S. now are in people who weren’t vaccinated, a staggering demonstration of how effective the shots have been and an indication that deaths per day — now down to under 300 — could be practically zero if everyone eligible got the vaccine.
You apparently aren't going to be bothered with an argument for natural immunity, therapeutics, vitamins, physical fitness & just general things we've been doing as a species for millennium - but please, not you, don't go all "unvaccinated people are costing us lives" bullshit you've been beaten to death by the powers that be with.
I've made my practical arguments here many times over so I'm not going to continue beating my head against a wall, but I'm not going to be labeled a fear-monger because I'm skeptical about an experimental vaccine that's had literally 1/10th the pre-clinical/clinical trial testing a normal vaccine goes through.
And you have absolutely no idea what the long-term side effects are yet.
Hundreds of millions of people have gotten these vaccines. It's a mathematical reality that some people will die within some short period of time after receiving them. Even a very few young healthy people, because a very few young healthy people die of various causes every week, every month and every year. That is in no way evidence that the vaccine caused their death. That's not science, that's fear mongering. Something we've been accusing our government of for the past year but now for some reason some on the right have embraced it.
99% of covid deaths right now are in unvaccinated people. This vaccine fear mongering is costing people their lives.
Nearly all COVID deaths in US are now among unvaccinated
Nearly all COVID-19 deaths in the U.S. now are in people who weren’t vaccinated, a staggering demonstration of how effective the shots have been and an indication that deaths per day — now down to under 300 — could be practically zero if everyone eligible got the vaccine.
I don't like arguing with you, because we typically see eye to eye.
But I have to make two points.
One. To say 99% of COVID deaths are among the unvaccinated is misleading. We are averaging 200 deaths a day now from COVID. Nearly 8,000 Americans die a day. If this were a year ago today, I'd say "wow." But this headline everyone is throwing about comes off as "duh" to me. 99% of 4,000 deaths a day last year is one thing. 99% of 200 deaths a day is applying a percentage to one of America's lowest causes of death. Just two weeks ago I posted a link that informed us that the Government no longer considers COVID a leading cause of death.
Two. Yes it is a mathematical reality that few will die of these vaccines. That doesn't mean we shouldn't be looking at these vaccines compared to other vaccines. Through that lens, they are unsafe. If you are in Vegas placing odds, sure the chances of you suffering an adverse reaction are small. Compared to other vaccines however, these so far appear to be infinitely more dangerous. Tens of thousands of adverse events have been reported now to VAERS. It's commonly understood that VAERS is an under-reported database of vaccine-adverse events. So the numbers are likely higher. How much, I don't know.
My position again is this. I'm not anti-vaccine. But we are dealing with a virus that simply isn't that deadly for those under 60. For those under 18, drinking is more dangerous. So people have to make the choice of which LOW ODDS RISK they are going to take. Risk getting COVID and have the incredibly low odds of dying from it, or risk taking an untested vaccine that have incredibly low odds of dying from it. Risk getting COVID and some long term effects, or risk getting a vaccine with unknown long term effects as well.
People should be able to make this choice on either incredibly low odds stance they want to take.
I see absolutely nothing wrong with this position. As would many practical, educated people I would assume. I just don't get the hysteria over a vaccine that hasn't even been FDA approved for FULL USE. EUA means the absolute most vulnerable within a population. We've established that. All this other **** is just political posturing, real fear-mongering and a money grab IMO.
Maybe it's just me, but wouldn't a better argument be the number of deaths occurring daily rather than cases?
A quick search says it's 2,300, if that number can be believed. 2,300 people also die from coronary disease every day.
And the average age of those that die from/with COVID is 78, which coincidentally is the average life expectancy in the US.
Control is a powerful drug.
Oops, just saw Tim saying deaths are down to 200 a day. I'll trust his links over a quick search.
A quick search says it's 2,300, if that number can be believed. 2,300 people also die from coronary disease every day.
And the average age of those that die from/with COVID is 78, which coincidentally is the average life expectancy in the US.
Control is a powerful drug.
Oops, just saw Tim saying deaths are down to 200 a day. I'll trust his links over a quick search.
Yep. We as a nation suffered 171 COVID deaths yesterday.