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Covid Vaccine

Healthcare was already struggling with staffing this just makes things worse. A neighboring facility had 6 out of around 100 quit due to mandates. Doesn't seem like alot but when you are already short it makes a difference. Now with the vax being mandated in basically all facilities people are just bailing out of healthcare. My gf is a certified nurse aide who makes a little under $16/hr. She was looking at a job where you basically unpack totes, clean, and organize them which was paying $20/hr.
Joe Biden is "from the government, and he's here to help."
 


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However, articles will be written by 'journalists' based on that presentation, or presentations like that one, and they will make their own uninformed conclusions on what was said. Lay people will then read those articles and come here, and other places online, and call people who chose to not get 'vaccinated' at this time "mouth-breathers" and other derogatory names. Its quite extraordinary that people with no medical background can be so convinced that they are so fully informed, when the people they are relying on for their information are so clearly not convinced. Trust me, you don't know what you don't know.

“In religion and politics people’s beliefs and convictions are in almost every case gotten at second-hand, and without examination, from authorities who have not themselves examined the questions at issue but have taken them at second-hand from other non-examiners, whose opinions about them were not worth a brass farthing.”

-Mark Twain

He's probably update that now to include media and science.
 
There is no free society. Only the illusion of freedom.

We're certainly getting there. Heard that they're still working on mandating no interstate travel for any unvaccinated people. Lovely.
 
Well we certainly don't have constitutional rights . They're just rough guidelines.Those can be suspended at any time for as long as they wish. Just as long as they feel it's for our own good, it's A OK.
 
I bet the resident Liberals who believe their warped existence is somehow mired in reality will find a way to dismiss CNBC and these scientists. Just wait.


Scientists sharply criticized the Biden administration’s push to widely distribute Covid-19 vaccine booster shots in the U.S. next month, saying the data provided by federal health officials this week wasn’t compelling enough to recommend third shots to most of the American population right now.

U.S. health leaders say they are preparing to offer booster shots to all eligible Americans beginning the week of Sept. 20. The plan, outlined Wednesday by CDC Director Dr. Rochelle Walensky, acting FDA Commissioner Dr. Janet Woodcock, White House chief medical advisor Dr. Anthony Fauci and other health officials, calls for a third dose eight months after people get their second shot of either the Pfizer or Moderna vaccines.
I think a large swath of us are just saying lets not put all of our eggs in the relatively untested MRNA basket… vaccines are great ideas, and with the right testing the ones released after a full battery of tests are usually perfectly safe, but tgese are rushed…

they did their job as stopgaps but its time for more tested methodologies to take center stages, not and endless barrage of boosters from a company and industry known for moneygrabs…

The reality is there is no way in this timeframe they have the data to call them totally safe, particularly when mixed with other vaccines… this is overstepping at best… utterly irresponsible at worse…..
 
As a little aside.....our little rural school district is 34 bus drivers short to begin the year. What's up with that ? It's a fur sure no ******* that I would not take that job but it's a paying job with decent hours and they can't fill the seats for the school year beginning next week ?

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I just feel as a guy who does scientific method testing for a living, all these ******* companies should be required to release every damn thing that I am when it comes to data

1. All the final data
2. all the raw data
3. All the data logs
4. The methodologies used for data collection
5. The methodologies used for analysis of the samples
6. All the math used for conversions
7. all the biases and interference and how they eliminated or adjusted for it
8. A relative accuracy on their final results
9 all qa and qc procedures they used to ensure the data is accurate
10 all rejected data and an explanation of why they rejected it

Basically anybody ought to be able to peer check these studies based off of the released data.
 
Without scanning 120+ pages of this thread, I think someone had referenced Dr. Simone Gold of America's Frontline Doctors. The video is months old but she alludes to Antibody Dependent Enhancement, the withholding of treatment options that have worked for similar viruses in the past, and some other info, etc. If ya' got about an hour, watch it. I'm just surprised it's still on YT.
 
Isn't it amazing what they are doing with the vaccine mandates? Educated, medical professionals resigning, because they refuse to take the jab. They...know this field. The shortage of nurses and doctors is leading to some of the "over capacity" hospital issues we see.

Bravo young lady. Listen to this nurse's words in San Diego.

Politicians are the root of our evil.

 
Isn't it amazing what they are doing with the vaccine mandates? Educated, medical professionals resigning, because they refuse to take the jab. They...know this field. The shortage of nurses and doctors is leading to some of the "over capacity" hospital issues we see.

Bravo young lady. Listen to this nurse's words in San Diego.

Politicians are the root of our evil.


Said this earlier. We are going to loose a large percent. This is on top of already running with substantial agency. Wings can’t be open because of no staff. It’s the same **** you see going to restaurants.

it’s empty but there is a 45min wait?!? Yup no staff we can only serve X percent.
Healthcare is collapsing
 
Bravo young lady. Listen to this nurse's words in San Diego.

Makes me proud to be a San Diegan. She's no dummy, and she's been working on the front lines for almost 2 years - and now this ****? Even though Pravda are going to try like hell to suppress it, this is going to come to a head eventually. The people (strength in numbers) are sick and tired of this bullshit already and we're just going to see more and more of this.

I just wish they didn't push the vaccine so hard and use mRNA instead of just going the traditional vaccine method. I think a lot of this could've been avoided that way. I know it's Monday morning QB type stuff, but the way they did this and then politicized the **** out of it, no wonder so many people don't have faith in our federal medical institutions or 'experts' posing for magazine covers.
 
I fancy myself a person that accepts reality whether I like it or not. You fail at that. Read your posts in this and the Coronavirus thread over the past year and a half.

There is no meaningful debate with people who believe that society is conspiring against them and everything has an ulterior motive. Your contempt and outrage is juvenile.
Every point on the vaccine hesitant side was first raised by liberal sources shortly after it was announced… several of the studies warning about potential adverse long term effects were done by liberal institutions and many of the narratives were first put forth by politico, the Washington post, and the New york times… amoung others…

the narrative flipped once trump lost, but the talking points are mostly liberal driven, and many arent too off point…

that’s possibly why a lot of libs haven’t gotten on board yet… first impressions run deep…
 
Tim is 16 percent correct…


I've yet to hear you rail on once about the unfettered stream of illegal immigrants crossing the border, 20% of whom are COVID infected.

You and your vile Comrade Tiblio are all too quick to blame your politicial enemies, while willfully ignoring realities in front of your faces. Minorities are refusing to get vaccinated. And your dear leader is letting Covid and terrorists stream right through our southern border unchecked.

Do you care? Not a bit. You're both driven ONLY by selective, political outrage.

I heard yesterday we've recently lost 9 border patrol agents to COVID with another 40 hospitalized.

And ya'll could give a damn.

**** off.
 
Every point on the vaccine hesitant side was first raised by liberal sources shortly after it was announced… several of the studies warning about potential adverse long term effects were done by liberal institutions and many of the narratives were first put forth by politico, the Washington post, and the New york times… amoung others…

the narrative flipped once trump lost, but the talking points are mostly liberal driven, and many arent too off point…

that’s possibly why a lot of libs haven’t gotten on board yet… first impressions run deep…

Don't expect this gem to resonate with Tiblio and Floggy.

****, they still believe masks prevent the spread of COVID.
 
I've yet to hear you rail on once about the unfettered stream of illegal immigrants crossing the border, 20% of whom are COVID infected.

You and your vile Comrade Tiblio are all too quick to blame your politicial enemies, while willfully ignoring realities in front of your faces. Minorities are refusing to get vaccinated. And your dear leader is letting Covid and terrorists stream right through our southern border unchecked.

Do you care? Not a bit. You're both driven ONLY by selective, political outrage.

I heard yesterday we've recently lost 9 border patrol agents to COVID with another 40 hospitalized.

And ya'll could give a damn.

**** off.
As soon as a minority or illegal immigrant show up here arguing nonsensical criticisms of the vaccine and reasons not to get vaccinated, I’ll rail against them as well. I promise.
 
****, they still believe masks prevent the spread of COVID.

As does the wide majority of the civilized world, those not wailing away on a keyboard down in the basement at their mom's house with a tinfoil hat on. (y)
 
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