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Like soon after the poke?There have been Three women where my wife works that have died from strokes all three fully vaccinated and all three were in there early sixties. is this just a coincidence?
No. You claimed the findings were wrong while referring to an immunocompromised person when the findings had NOTHING to do with the immunocompromised.So let me get this straight. Because the initial trials didn't focus on people with pre-existing conditions, that explains why the vaccines' efficacies have dropped over time?????
Thousands of articles/studies/research around the globe are showing the vaccines' efficacies are waning. But you still do be argue they are as good day one as they are 6 months after receiving them....DESPITE even your media saying they are waning.
Got it. You're an ideologue.
No. You claimed the findings were wrong while referring to an immunocompromised person when the findings had NOTHING to do with the immunocompromised.
Sounds like the regulators aren’t convinced the vaccines are waning…Church Lady: Well isn't this special?
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Health Officials Advise White House to Scale Back Booster Plan for Now
WASHINGTON — Top federal health officials have told the White House to scale back a plan to offer coronavirus boosterdnyuz.com
WASHINGTON — Top federal health officials have told the White House to scale back a plan to offer coronavirus booster shots to the general public later this month, saying that regulators need more time to collect and review all the necessary data, according to people familiar with the discussion.
Dr. Janet Woodcock, the acting commissioner of the Food and Drug Administration, and Dr. Rochelle P. Walensky, who heads the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, warned the White House on Thursday that their agencies may be able to determine in the coming weeks whether to recommend boosters only for recipients of the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine — and possibly just some of them to start.
Less than three weeks ago, Mr. Biden said that contingent on F.D.A. approval, the government planned to start offering boosters the week of Sept. 20 to adults who had received their second shot of the Pfizer-BioNTech or Moderna vaccine at least eight months ago. That would include many health care workers and nursing home residents, as well as some people older than 65, who were generally the first to be vaccinated. Administration officials have said that recipients of the single-dose Johnson & Johnson vaccine would probably be offered an additional shot soon as well.
Mr. Biden cast the strategy as another tool that the nation needed to battle the highly contagious Delta variant, which has driven up infection rates, swamped hospitals with Covid-19 patients and is now leading to an average of more than 1,500 deaths a day. “The plan is for every adult to get a booster shot eight months after you got your second shot,” he said on Aug. 18, adding, “It will make you safer, and for longer. And it will help us end the pandemic faster.”
So instead of getting your (mis)information from YouTube and social media, why don’t you read up and actually educate yourself?So you're saying the vaccines only work on the non-immunocompromised populations??
That's promising.
Seatbelts are a great theoretical comparison… wearing a seatbelt absolutely reduces injury in most, but not all, accidents… in a front or rear end collision they have likely saved countless lives, but a little discussed fact it the can be extremely dangerous for certain side impact accidents… if you deep dive into the seatbelt debate there is more grey area than one would think about mandatory seat belt lawsUnfound? Really?
People are advised to wear seatbelts, it doesn’t always save their life. What could possibly be your point?
And how am I ******** on him, exactly?
No they are scared shitless that mixing vaccines or using too many boosters could lead to various complications… there have been cases where low efficiency vaccines that prevent death but not transmission can lead to scary resultsSounds like the regulators aren’t convinced the vaccines are waning…
Sounds like the regulators aren’t convinced the vaccines are waning…
But you do be say that ERRYONE should be getting stabby stab jabby jab, completely glossing over that some people cannot, some people should not and others are totally distrusting in the goobermint. then have the goddamned audacity to blame it on right wingers.So instead of getting your (mis)information from YouTube and social media, why don’t you read up and actually educate yourself?
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Some Immunocompromised People May Not Get a COVID-19 Vaccine
COVID-19 vaccines may not be approved initially for use in people who are immunocompromised. In spite of that, this group could still benefit from widespread coronavirus vaccination.www.healthline.com
Seatbelts are a great theoretical comparison… wearing a seatbelt absolutely reduces injury in most, but not all, accidents… in a front or rear end collision they have likely saved countless lives, but a little discussed fact it the can be extremely dangerous for certain side impact accidents… if you deep dive into the seatbelt debate there is more grey area than one would think about mandatory seat belt laws
now I always wear mine. I believe the statistics might be inflated but most car accidents are rear or front end impact, but I totally understand the idea that it should not be a law because it should be a personal choice… if there is a reasonable and realistic chance that it might kill or maim you, then the item should be voluntary…
in comparison with say the helmet laws for motorcycles… I've never heard of an instance where a helmet killed someone… yet those are weirdly optional…
so she votes a straight Democrat ticket now, rightWhen we were younger, my stepsister was in a car wreck. Side impact. Had to have a foot of her colon removed because of the damage the lower seatbelt caused.
She still wears seat belts of course because the odds are in her favor otherwise.
So instead of getting your (mis)information from YouTube and social media, why don’t you read up and actually educate yourself?
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Some Immunocompromised People May Not Get a COVID-19 Vaccine
COVID-19 vaccines may not be approved initially for use in people who are immunocompromised. In spite of that, this group could still benefit from widespread coronavirus vaccination.www.healthline.com
so she votes a straight Democrat ticket now, right
dont bring Fauxci into this conversation about your sister's inability to drive to the voting polls.Thank God no
WARNING: You’re not gonna like this article, it talks about math…Because they are asking for underlying data? LOL. And you're talking about the FDA, come on tool.
How many sources do you need from around the globe...how many quotes, how many studies, how much evidence...before you abandon your religion?
IF the vaccines aren't waning...why are they asking for boosters...including YOUR White House? This ought to be good.
You asked if vaccines work for the immunocompromised. I provided you an article. “This person”? WTF?Good God dope...this person WAS vaccinated. No one here...no one...is arguing about whether the immunocompromised should or should not get vaccinated. Except you with yourself.
It's just more evidence that as time passes and the vaccines wane and breakthrough cases explode and more and more vaccinated people get hospitalized and die that the vaccines' collective effectiveness after round one are wearing off.
BTW, your fearless preacher Fraudci said today the Mu variant, technically known as B.1.621, has mutations suggesting "it would evade certain antibodies," potentially including those from vaccines.
Booster shot 12, come on down!
WARNING: You’re not gonna like this article, it talks about math…
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Is Vaccine Immunity Waning?
It may not really be waning much — which means universal booster shots may do little good.www.nytimes.com
Two new studies from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention show fully vaccinated Americans’ immunity to Covid-19 is waning as the more-transmissible Delta variant continues to spread across the country.
One study, which focused on frontline health care workers, found that vaccine effectiveness declined by nearly thirty percentage points since the Delta variant became the dominant strain in the U.S.
The second study examined 43,000 Los Angeles residents age 16 and older. It found that 25 percent of new infections from May to July were in fully vaccinated individuals, while 71 percent occurred in unvaccinated people.
In a letter to The New England Journal of Medicine, publishing online September 1, 2021, an interdisciplinary team of physicians and public health experts at University of California San Diego measured the effectiveness of COVID-19 mRNA vaccines among health workers at UC San Diego Health, most notably during the emergence of the highly transmissible delta virus variant and coincident with the end of the state's mask mandate, allowing fully vaccinated persons to forgo face coverings in most places.
The letter's authors report that the effectiveness of both the Pfizer and Moderna mRNA COVID-19 vaccines significantly waned over time.
In the letter, the authors note that from March through June 2021 vaccine effectiveness against symptomatic infection was estimated to exceed 90 percent; by July, however, it had fallen to approximately 65 percent.
You asked if vaccines work for the immunocompromised. I provided you an article. “This person”? WTF?
I think 12 is the right number. Yeah 12No they are scared shitless that mixing vaccines or using too many boosters could lead to various complications… there have been cases where low efficiency vaccines that prevent death but not transmission can lead to scary results
just because one dose work’s doesn’t mean a second or third or fourth is instantly safe…
The initial trials had no variants included and were so short term no realistic concept of how long they would last were ever made… moreover most apparently didn’t account for natural immunity so the numbers could have been a little lower and nobody noticed…The findings of vaccines effectiveness were based on the initial trials. Immunocompromised people with pre-existing conditions were NOT included in the trials. You’re a ******* idiot to think that the findings would apply to them.