Covid Vaccine

[Troglodyte]

LMAO....the world (literally) is saying boosters are needed. Governments, Government health organizations, physicians, researchers AND the CEOs of the pharmas that have developed the vaccines are all saying boosters are needed. Israel is administering them. The world wide data, researchers, medical professionals, and pharmas are all showing the vaccines' efficacies are falling drastically.

But...The Atlantic.

Good Lord.

The world? Literally? Good lord you’re uninformed…

EU infectious disease agency says 'no urgent need' for boosters among vaccinated

The European Union infectious diseases agency has determined there is "no urgent need" for individuals to receive booster shots of the COVID-19 vaccine and that efforts should stay focused on more people becoming fu

thehill.com

 

[Tibs]

Nobody quite laughs at thousands of innocent folks dying from a pandemic than the MAGA’s on this board.

This whole thing is so ******* funny to you. Really makes you wonder.

 

[SteelerInLebanon]

Nobody quite laughs at thousands of innocents folks dying from a pandemic than the MAGA’s on this board.

This whole thing is so ******* funny to you. Really makes you wonder.

No it isn’t funny but it is a fact of life. Statistics are cold and uncaring but they show that this virus is not the threat to our existence you claim it to be. The response to it has been vastly more of a problem than the virus itself for our long term survival as a functioning society. It is a case of world wide panic over something that while sad and tragic in some cases is not going to kill enough people to threaten our species in any significant way. In fact it mostly is doing the job of nature in killing those with predisposed weakness that nature doesn’t want passed on as genetic code. It is sad and we as a species have mostly stopped natural selection and allowed genetic defects to promulgate through our society through better medicine. Every once in awhile something like this comes along and finds easy targets due to our modern medicine. I am not saying it is a good thing for people to die I am just saying it is going to happen. This one unfortunately was created/upgraded by China and our own funding.

 

[madinsomniac]

Tiblio and Floggy and Lester Holt and the rest of the communists been screaming Ivermectin bad. Could save lives. But DJT suggested it, so people must DIE for politics.

Despite a SCIENTIFIC study, expect more posts from Tibs about veterinary Ivermectin being bad.

Lives must die for Democrats' politics.

I took Ivermectin. 3 days later, COVID symptoms gone. Should be given to people everywhere who want it. You have to **** the system to get it. Travesty, huh?

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Review of the Emerging Evidence Demonstrating the Efficacy... : American Journal of Therapeutics

ed within clinical trials. Areas of Uncertainty: The majority of trialed agents have failed to provide reproducible, definitive proof of efficacy in reducing the mortality of COVID-19 with the exception of corticosteroids in moderate to severe disease. Recently, evidence has emerged that the...

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Conclusions:​

Meta-analyses based on 18 randomized controlled treatment trials of ivermectin in COVID-19 have found large, statistically significant reductions in mortality, time to clinical recovery, and time to viral clearance. Furthermore, results from numerous controlled prophylaxis trials report significantly reduced risks of contracting COVID-19 with the regular use of ivermectin. Finally, the many examples of ivermectin distribution campaigns leading to rapid population-wide decreases in morbidity and mortality indicate that an oral agent effective in all phases of COVID-19 has been identified.

Read that earlier… there is a very weird attempt to discredit that medicine

in ten years when everyone realizes that the majority of this political mess of a response was driven directly by the pharmaceutical companies they will be whining and crying about tgem again…

are they a necessary evil… probably, but you take everything they say with a grain of salt and make them prove things redundantly and at least you minimize the harm they do and maximize the good…


as for that rolling stone article flopping around it’s been disproven and tgey had to put a retraction on it but it still doesn’t get flagged as fake news on social media… much like the sold out of horse deworming meds story that floated around ….

much like the other readily available treatments there is an instant hit campaign on it… you can get breakdowns of the exact chemical reason it works as a treatment but i guess its more fun to make up the horse deworming angle and act like your side is mentally superior

 

[Tim Steelersfan]

If you think it’s wrong, prove it. (Assuming you can do the math)

What's the point with you? You post in no other threads. You engage only me here. And I could prop Fauci up in front of you sitting in your bubble and have him tell you that masks don't work and you'd say JFC! OMG!! And deny what he says.

You have your own reality. You have your faith. No one will convince you how stupid you actually are.

 

[Tim Steelersfan]

The world? Literally? Good lord you’re uninformed…

EU infectious disease agency says 'no urgent need' for boosters among vaccinated

The European Union infectious diseases agency has determined there is "no urgent need" for individuals to receive booster shots of the COVID-19 vaccine and that efforts should stay focused on more people becoming fu

thehill.com

Yes. The world. Around the globe, the call FOR boosters is far, far, far louder and greater than the few mice whispering it may not be needed. You've been presented this data. You've chosen to ignore it.

Israel? Administering them. Already. Oh, they are coming.

 

[Tim Steelersfan]

You ignorant dupe. Along with Rolling Stone bird cage liner.


A message from the hospital reads:


UPDATE: Northeastern Hospital System Sequoyah issued a statement: Although Dr. Jason McElyea is not an employee of NHS Sequoyah, he is affiliated with a medical staffing group that provides coverage for our emergency room. With that said, Dr. McElyea has not worked at our Sallisaw location in over 2 months. NHS Sequoyah has not treated any patients due to complications related to taking ivermectin. This includes not treating any patients for ivermectin overdose. All patients who have visited our emergency room have received medical attention as appropriate. Our hospital has not had to turn away any patients seeking emergency care. We want to reassure our community that our staff is working hard to provide quality healthcare to all patients. We appreciate the opportunity to clarify this issue and as always, we value our community’s support.”

So you do be say that Rolling Stone lied (AGAIN), fabricated another story (AGAIN), and Tiblio is spreading misinformation (AGAIN)????

 

[Troglodyte]

The odds of an unvaccinated person getting seriously ill are seriously remote as well.

Tell that to the dumbfucks overwhelming ICUs across the nation.

 

[Tim Steelersfan]

much like the other readily available treatments there is an instant hit campaign on it…

Yep and we all know why - DJT promoted it. So, because the Liberal media, progressives, and Democrats literally hate and target anything he suggests, they continue to sully Ivermectin.

How many lives has this cost us? It could be being prescribed as a therapeutic. It's cheap as hell, and it would be better than "go home, rest, hydrate, take vitamins" which is what they tell everyone to do. 18 months later, if this virus was so damned deadly...why is that the recommendation if you test positive? Why do we wait till someone has to be hospitalized before Docs try remdesivir, Ivermectin, etc?

****'s all got a bad, bad smell to it.

 

[Troglodyte]

Sorry, chalking this one up in the bullshit column. When Israel, England, Massachusetts, Pittsburgh and a growing number of locations show data directly counter to this, I'll reserve right to believe and tend to believe the side showing trends.

This is like the MS has 12 kids in ICU "data" ya'll were spilling about everywhere here. Then whoops....turns out it was ******* bullshit.

Pittsburgh? Nope. I was on a conference call Thursday and the presenter shared a power point slide that showed of the health system’s 141 Covid hospitalizations, only 27 were vaccinated and they were immunocompromised (chemo patients or former chemo patients, etc.)

 

[Tim Steelersfan]

Tell that to the dumbfucks overwhelming ICUs across the nation.

Which ones? The vaccinated or unvaccinated ones? What do you say to the 40% occupying ICUs in PGH? Just curious.

 

[Tim Steelersfan]

Pittsburgh? Nope. I was on a conference call Thursday and the presenter shared a power point slide that showed of the health system’s 141 Covid hospitalizations, only 27 were vaccinated and they were immunocompromised (chemo patients or former chemo patients, etc.)

Oh yeah....THAT'S gonna slide.

I was in a meeting last week, and in the meeting was a Dr. (NO joke) from Mass General. He said 97% their ICU patients are vaccinated. Said it's been that way for months.

BTW, YOU DO REALIZE you are now working to argue against your own damned argument, rigggghhhtttt? YOU posted the PPG article which quoted the #s of vaccinated in PGH area hospitals. YOU brought that data to the board (I was unaware of it). NOW YOU ARE ARGUING AGAINST IT.

******* god damned comedy gold this is. I can't make enough popcorn.

 

[Stoney]

My wife called me in to watch a Today Show segment on Joe Rogan earlier this week. The 'reporter' repeatedly referred to ivermectin as a 'horse dewormer' and everyone on the show would put their heads down and giggle like children each time she said it. I assume the woman doing the piece is some sort of medical corespondent, but she never once mentioned that a human formulation of ivermectin exist, or that its been used in humans for decades. Nope, she just repeatedly ridiculed Rogan as an idiot who took horse dewormer.

So basically NBC's Today Show LIED to their viewers, spread misinformation, and put their viewers in danger. They put their viewers in danger by failing to tell them that Rogan took a formulation of the drug made for humans. So some of their idiot viewers might believe that he actually took a horse dewormer and suffered no ill effects, so maybe they can also take horse dewormer. NBC would love more deaths from idiots taking veterinary medicine, because then they can use it to ridicule DJT and rednecks. MSM is the f'n worst.

This is why there is so much distrust about the vaccine, we all know that the people pushing it are willing to lie so obviously and readily.

 

[SteelerInLebanon]

Tell that to the dumbfucks overwhelming ICUs across the nation.

One more time the biggest problem in ICU's isn't people with Covid it is lack of staffing to use all beds normally available. That is a fact and it has been exasperated by the vaccine mandates leading many nurses to quit. My daughters hospital is losing or has lost up to 30% of their nursing staff over the mandate! What does that tell you.

 

[Tim Steelersfan]

My wife called me in to watch a Today Show segment on Joe Rogan earlier this week. The 'reporter' repeatedly referred to ivermectin as a 'horse dewormer' and everyone on the show would put their heads down and giggle like children each time she said it. I assume the woman doing the piece is some sort of medical corespondent, but she never once mentioned that a human formulation of ivermectin exist, or that its been used in humans for decades. Nope, she just repeatedly ridiculed Rogan as an idiot who took horse dewormer.

So basically NBC's Today Show LIED to their viewers, spread misinformation, and put their viewers in danger. They put their viewers in danger by failing to tell them that Rogan took a formulation of the drug made for humans. So some of their idiot viewers might believe that he actually took a horse dewormer and suffered no ill effects, so maybe they can also take horse dewormer. NBC would love more deaths from idiots taking veterinary medicine, because then they can use it to ridicule DJT and rednecks. MSM is the f'n worst.

This is why there is so much distrust about the vaccine, we all know that the people pushing it are willing to lie so obviously and readily.

This. This happens literally ALL the time. Millions watch their ****. Millions fall for it. The media literally is destroying the use of Ivermectin. Across all applications. They will have at least half of America believing Ivermectin is only used in animals. They are destroying the market for it, but also putting lives at risk where Ivermectin may have been a cure and now won't be prescribed because they are creating such a negative stigmatism about it.

As I've said, it's criminal.

Journalism is long since dead.

 

[Tim Steelersfan]

One more time the biggest problem in ICU's isn't people with Covid it is lack of staffing to use all beds normally available. That is a fact and it has been exasperated by the vaccine mandates leading many nurses to quit. My daughters hospital is losing or has lost up to 30% of their nursing staff over the mandate! What does that tell you.

So many states now are offering signing bonuses for nurses, they are that desperate. Big ones too for that field. Read about one district, they are paying $35,000 signing bonuses because they drove so many other nurses away they are now having to shell out that kinda coin. Which of course you and I pay in higher medical costs so they don't give a ****.

But you're correct. ICU reaches capacity faster when you go from 30 ICU beds you can staff to 15. Libbies don't consider this.

 

[Troglodyte]

Yes. The world. Around the globe, the call FOR boosters is far, far, far louder and greater than the few mice whispering it may not be needed. You've been presented this data. You've chosen to ignore it.

Israel? Administering them. Already. Oh, they are coming.

Israel = the world?

The WORLD Health Organization called for a halt to boosters.

Which ones? The vaccinated or unvaccinated ones? What do you say to the 40% occupying ICUs in PGH? Just curious.

I’d remind them that as a vaccinated person they have a 1 in 100,000 chance of dying from Covid.

And again, you don’t understand the math. Pittsburgh’s elderly are like 90% vaccinated. 40% argues the vaccines effectiveness.

 

[Stoney]

They are destroying the market for it, ...

Im not sure about that, my wholesalers have been sold out of the generic brands for a while, and only one has a limited supply of Merck's brand name product. However, it wouldn't surprise me to find out that Pfizer was buying it all up.

 

[ZonaBurgh]

My wife called me in to watch a Today Show segment on Joe Rogan earlier this week. The 'reporter' repeatedly referred to ivermectin as a 'horse dewormer' and everyone on the show would put their heads down and giggle like children each time she said it. I assume the woman doing the piece is some sort of medical corespondent, but she never once mentioned that a human formulation of ivermectin exist, or that its been used in humans for decades. Nope, she just repeatedly ridiculed Rogan as an idiot who took horse dewormer.

So basically NBC's Today Show LIED to their viewers, spread misinformation, and put their viewers in danger. They put their viewers in danger by failing to tell them that Rogan took a formulation of the drug made for humans. So some of their idiot viewers might believe that he actually took a horse dewormer and suffered no ill effects, so maybe they can also take horse dewormer. NBC would love more deaths from idiots taking veterinary medicine, because then they can use it to ridicule DJT and rednecks. MSM is the f'n worst.

This is why there is so much distrust about the vaccine, we all know that the people pushing it are willing to lie so obviously and readily.

This is what happens when the MSM promotes political shills to present information as factual.

 

[ZonaBurgh]

Im not sure about that, my wholesalers have been should out of the generic brands for a while, and only one has a limited supply of Merck's brand name product. However, it wouldn't surprise me to find out that Pfizer was buying it all up.

And of course Stromectol = $$$$$$

 

[Tim Steelersfan]

as for that rolling stone article flopping around it’s been disproven and tgey had to put a retraction on it but it still doesn’t get flagged as fake news on social media… much like the sold out of horse deworming meds story that floated around ….

More on the fake bullshit Tiblio posted from Rolling Stone. Good Lord Liberals are a danger to society.

Rolling Stone published a hit piece today claiming that gunshot victims could not be seen in Oklahoma hospitals because there are so many overdoses from Ivermectin. However, there were some problems. Most importantly, the doctor they quoted has not worked at the hospital for over 2 months.

Rolling Stone, who was nearly bankrupted for running the fake hoax rape story at the University of Virginia, has added the hospital’s note to the top of the story but the piece is still available at their website.



A whole lot of libtards pontificated mightily before it turned out to be fake news…

 

[Tim Steelersfan]

Israel = the world?

How many links have I posted from areas around the world calling for boosters? Not just Israel. Israel is delivering them as we speak.

YOUR White House, preparing for them:

Ron Klain: Biden's chief of staff won't say when booster shots will be available but commits to following the science

www.msn.com

NBC - Booster shots available September 20 here in the USA:

COVID Booster Shots: Who is Eligible and When Can They Get One? Here's What to Know

U.S. health authorities are now recommending an extra dose of the COVID-19 vaccine for all Americans eight months after they received their second dose of the Pfizer or Moderna shot. So what will that mean for you and when should you get one?

www.nbcchicago.com

A million boosters have already been given in the US:

Nearly 1 million Covid booster shots have already been administered in the U.S., CDC data shows

It's unclear if all the extra doses the CDC reported were administered in immunocompromised people.

www.cnbc.com

COVID-19 Booster Shots Will Roll Out In September In The U.S.

People will be eligible for a booster shot eight months after their second dose of their vaccines from Pfizer or Moderna, according to U.S. health officials.

www.npr.org

Yet you continue to insist they aren't needed, aren't coming, don't exist...because you are trying like hell to argue that the vaccines that have already been administered are not faltering and are magic bullets.

Your argument continues to crumble.

The WORLD Health Organization called for a halt to boosters.

Did your dumb *** bother to read why??? They didn't call for a halt to them because THEY AREN'T NEEDED OR RECOMMENDED. SMDH:

The head of the World Health Organization called Wednesday for a moratorium on administering booster shots of Covid-19 vaccines as a way to help ensure that doses are available in countries where few people have received their first shots.

Pittsburgh’s elderly are like 90% vaccinated. 40% argues the vaccines effectiveness.

The STEADY rise of vaccinated people contracting COVID, being hospitalized from COVID, dying from COVID argues vaccine efficacy waning. The point. Try to grasp it.

 

[Tim Steelersfan]

Im not sure about that, my wholesalers have been should out of the generic brands for a while, and only one has a limited supply of Merck's brand name product. However, it wouldn't surprise me to find out that Pfizer was buying it all up.

Well, ok. Good point. I would point out to the demand for it from those who want it. I waited on hold with my pharmacy for 2.5 days (not a joke, 2.5 full days) waiting on my Ivermectin. Pharmacies like the one I used are slammed fulfilling requests.

I'm just saying if the media continues to push this "horse" **** (pun intended) about Ivermectin, it "could" destroy the market for it. I won't be surprised if there are calls in the future to ban the drug as they try to make it look dangerous for human consumption.

 

[Troglodyte]

Oh yeah....THAT'S gonna slide.

I was in a meeting last week, and in the meeting was a Dr. (NO joke) from Mass General. He said 97% their ICU patients are vaccinated. Said it's been that way for months.

BTW, YOU DO REALIZE you are now working to argue against your own damned argument, rigggghhhtttt? YOU posted the PPG article which quoted the #s of vaccinated in PGH area hospitals. YOU brought that data to the board (I was unaware of it). NOW YOU ARE ARGUING AGAINST IT.

******* god damned comedy gold this is. I can't make enough popcorn.

No, I understand the math. At 90% vaccinated, if they are 40% of the hospitalized, they are 13.6 times less likely to be hospitalized than the unvaccinated.

 

[SteelerInLebanon]

Israel = the world?

The WORLD Health Organization called for a halt to boosters.


I’d remind them that as a vaccinated person they have a 1 in 100,000 chance of dying from Covid.

And again, you don’t understand the math. Pittsburgh’s elderly are like 90% vaccinated. 40% argues the vaccines effectiveness.

what are the odds of the unvaccinated dying? it is still incredibly low. Vaccinated or not the odds someone in the world will die from this are less than .0006. Depsite the deaths the panic doesn't equal the threat even unvaccinated.