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So you think that some/many/most Covid cases were actually people with the flu somehow testing false positive for Covid? That’s a thing? Source?
Covid Vaccine
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“Perfect virus”? Never heard of that. Please share your source.
If the viruses were so incredibly and vastly different, one would wonder why they would be working to develop a combined Flu/Covid vaccine?
Now perhaps, and it appears is how it is written up, they are trying to kill two birds with one stone. But I don't recall a Diptheria/TB shot, or a Polio/Rubella shot either.
Finally, in a new modern ****** up world where people who die in motorcycle accidents are counted as flu deaths, do I believe that people who had and died from the flu happened? 100% absolutely. Do you know how many "covid death certificates" had "covid assumed" listed as the cause? And, prior to testing, the # of assumed cases of Covid were highly miscategorized. Appeared like Covid? Was Covid. And the hospital gets $15K.
There's much out there about this. Evidence that countless flu cases/deaths have been mislabeled as Covid. And...
Do false positives happen? The FDA has admitted as such.
Well, given he said "perfect vaccine" you may be waiting a bit.
It bears repeating...you suck at this.
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Australia may be lost. Look what happens if you don't wear a mask...
So we all know that there is a likelihood of getting myocarditis from the vaxes.
What is not discussed is that if you get myocarditis, you're life expectancy after is about 6-7 years, that's it.
Listen to this D1 Golfer, John Stokes (Tennessee State) who got the vax and is suffering from myocarditis 4 days later.
John Stokes, division 1 golfer, gives an update after developing myocarditis following second covid vaccination. He encourages anyone who has had an adverse reaction to report it to VAERS.
His collegiate athletics career is still uncertain at this time.
www.thecollegefix.com
What is not discussed is that if you get myocarditis, you're life expectancy after is about 6-7 years, that's it.
Listen to this D1 Golfer, John Stokes (Tennessee State) who got the vax and is suffering from myocarditis 4 days later.
John Stokes, division 1 golfer, gives an update after developing myocarditis following second covid vaccination. He encourages anyone who has had an adverse reaction to report it to VAERS.
His collegiate athletics career is still uncertain at this time.
Tennessee State University golfer says COVID vaccine induced ‘heart complications’ | The College Fix
Video has been removed by TikTok.
www.thecollegefix.com
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Its “perfect vaccine “ like “ leaky vaccine ” its a pre covid concept that is universally accepted in the health industry…
‘Leaky’ Vaccines Can Produce Stronger Versions of Viruses
By studying chickens, researchers say they have proven the theory that more virulent viruses can evolve from so-called “leaky” vaccines.
www.healthline.com
Here is an unpolitical pre covid article on it. The chicken case they discussed was the most famous example, and why you don’t get malaria vaccines or any of the leaky vaccines as a child… you only get them if you are going into a high danger zone…
Most vaccines completely fight off the virus in the extremely early stages of its entry into the body. These completely prevent both transmission and severe effects.
Their effectiveness doesn’t wane
They are known as perfect vaccines.
Others do protect against Infection and illness, but their effectiveness fades in time. These are still relatively safe to use with periodic boosters
There are two dangerous ones however. Ones that don’t create a fast immune response are what they call “leaky” or imperfect vaccines. These don’t mimic natural immunity exactly and the infection reaches a transmittable stage but it reduces or eliminates illness… making the person a typhoid mary… the case of the chicken virus was like this…
Basically the vaccine immunity catches the virus closest to the original virus well, but lets mutations spread, so ultimately the dominant strain became a super deadly version…. This almost never happens in natural immunity because natural immunity typically is better at adapting to mutations.
Dr Fauci warned about this several times… the pharmaceutical companies didn’t do the long term testing to rule it out because only Jand J was even still in the rushed clinical trials when the first big variant was found and if you look at the data that’s probably why tgeirs was slightly less effective than the other two…
The last type gives immunity against the original virus but ultimately stunts natural immunity and thus eventually the vaccinated person is super susceptible to later mutations… i forget that term.. Fauci used it a while back… but that’s something they usually need five years or more of testing to rule out
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Fact check: A cold, the flu or a flu shot won't cause positive tests for novel coronavirus
Numerous users on social media have claimed that the common cold, flu, and flu vaccine will cause positive tests for novel coronavirus. That's false.
www.usatoday.com
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So we all know that there is a likelihood of getting myocarditis from the vaxes.
What is not discussed is that if you get myocarditis, you're life expectancy after is about 6-7 years, that's it.
Listen to this D1 Golfer, John Stokes (Tennessee State) who got the vax and is suffering from myocarditis 4 days later.
John Stokes, division 1 golfer, gives an update after developing myocarditis following second covid vaccination. He encourages anyone who has had an adverse reaction to report it to VAERS.
His collegiate athletics career is still uncertain at this time.
Tennessee State University golfer says COVID vaccine induced ‘heart complications’ | The College Fix
Video has been removed by TikTok.
You and your ******* nonsense, fake news, misinformation…
Myocarditis - Symptoms and causes
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Fact check: A cold, the flu or a flu shot won't cause positive tests for novel coronavirus
Numerous users on social media have claimed that the common cold, flu, and flu vaccine will cause positive tests for novel coronavirus. That's false.www.usatoday.com
USAToday? NOVEMBER 2020?
How about the ******* FDA? This month?
Potential False COVID-19, Flu Results w/ Roche Test on cobas Liat Sys
Leaking assay tubes and abnormal PCR cycling can cause erroneous results. Read the letter for recommendations.
You really suck at this.
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It's just embarrassing at this point. Goodness!!USAToday? NOVEMBER 2020?
How about the ******* FDA? This month?
Potential False COVID-19, Flu Results w/ Roche Test on cobas Liat Sys
Leaking assay tubes and abnormal PCR cycling can cause erroneous results. Read the letter for recommendations.www.fda.gov
You really suck at this.
You and your ******* nonsense, fake news, misinformation…
Myocarditis - Symptoms and causes
www.mayoclinic.org
Son, did you watch the good Naval surgeon's video?
"There were only 20 deaths of Active duty in 2020. In all the services put together....they have a big epidemiologic base and they can find out exactly what's going on...we're vaccinating everybody...and we've already had tumors and we've had 80 cases of myocarditis, which I'm gonna get to...but myocarditis has a significant mortality....five year mortality, I think it's 66%...so we with the vaccine program have essentially killed more of our young active duty people than Covid did."
Other snippets:
- Leukemia: There's 48 on average listed per year in VAERS, we are now up to 229.
- Myocarditis: In 31 years of VAERS, there were 317 cases listed; now, this year, 1,113.
Myocarditis progresses to heart failure a frightening part of the time within five years and is asymptomatic until there is nothing you can do about it because the root, PAH, is not detectable from outside the body by non-invasive means. If that turns out badly five years down the road you either get a heart transplant (at six-figure cost, permanent disability and permanent dependence on anti-rejection drugs) or you're dead.
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That’s ONE specific tests. Where does it state that anywhere close to 43 million flu cases were misdiagnosed as Covid? Lunacy.USAToday? NOVEMBER 2020?
How about the ******* FDA? This month?
Potential False COVID-19, Flu Results w/ Roche Test on cobas Liat Sys
Leaking assay tubes and abnormal PCR cycling can cause erroneous results. Read the letter for recommendations.
You really suck at this.
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She’s sounds like a quack. “I think…”, “a frightening part of the time”. Yeah, I’ll go with the Mayo Clinic. “Usually (a majority of the time) myocarditis goes away without permanent complications”
Karl Denninger again. Sound words.
Well, Duh. This Is Why It Was Stupid*
I warned everyone.
Now even CNN is on it, although they (like SAGE) think we're smarter than nature -- and evolution.
In a word: Duh.
I know I've been banging on this drum since Covid-19 started but it is no-less important today, especially in the context of holding people accountable for killing several hundred thousand Americans and the economic destruction they brought upon the nation.
To be sterilizing a vaccine must prevent infection. Since you never get infected you never replicate the virus and thus do not shed it. If you do not shed it the potential path of the viral life-cycle for that particular infection ends with you and thus you cannot pass on or cause a mutation. You are sterile against that disease; from the point of view of the virus you are a lifeless rock. Among commonly-used sterilizing vaccines are MMR (measles, mumps and rubella), Varicella (chicken pox), OPV (oral polio) and others. The only time that such a vaccine fails is when you do not build immunity (such as due to immune compromise.) This is extremely rare and the protection from such vaccines tends to be either decades-long or lifetime.
A vaccine that is not sterilizing permits the virus to infect you and replicate and as a result you can infect others. Technically it is not a vaccine at all (which by definition prevents infection); it is a prophylactic therapy. Such a "vaccine" instead acts to reduce or eliminate symptomatic disease. You don't know you're sick and you don't get sick. You don't go to the hospital and you don't die. Unfortunately since you don't know you're sick but are infected and the virus is both replicating in you and shedding you are more-likely to spread the infection to others. All of the current Covid jabs are in this category and so is, for that matter IPV (injected polio vaccine -- the original Salk discovery.)
During the original vaccine trials in the summer and fall of 2020 they deliberately did not test any of the recipients for asymptomatic infections. Only a person who developed a significant illness was tested. This has continued post roll-out with the CDC specifying that a close contact of a known case who was vaccinated did not need to quarantine or be tested until and unless they became symptomatic. They knew damn well, in other words, that the jabs were not sterilizing but did not want that data up for public debate because then those who have read history would be likely to make the connection to the present day and thus they did their level best to hide it. That has now blown up in their face with it being conclusively known that jabbed people in fact not only get infected but spread the virus to others.
The problem with non-sterilizing vaccines is simply this: There is no safe means of mass-use of non-sterilizing vaccines so long as transmission within the community does or is likely to exist.
Ever.
There are no exceptions.
This was known to public health officials and virologists seventy years ago and is why the United States used both IPV (injected polio vaccine) and OPV (oral polio vaccine) in sequence for polio until the 1990s. OPV produced sterilizing immunity but IPV did not. OPV had a very small (but non-zero, about 1 in a million) risk of causing polio because it was a codon-deoptimized live virus which, on rare occasion, would mutate back to its virulent form in the human body. So to mitigate that risk you got IPV first in the US (to prevent systemic infection; this was non-sterilizing), then OPV which is sterilizing -- that is, it prevents not only getting sick from polio but also replicating and shedding the virus, thus giving it to others along with preventing the promotion of mutations that WILL eventually escape the vaccine.
Had we done with polio what we're doing now with Covid -- IPV (non-sterilizing) use only with virus circulating in the United States -- it is very likely the virus would have mutated, escaped the vaccine and killed millions in America. Every single so-called expert knows damn well why we didn't do that with polio and how dangerous it is to attempt it. Indeed where polio still circulates but money is scarce they use OPV only (which is sterilizing) and accept the risk of the rare but possible active case it can cause for this exact reason.
Again: This is not a "new idea"; it was in fact the only rational path of action and known decades ago, forming the very basis of our polio vaccination strategy. This combination strategy was necessary for polio but not for measles, for example, as the measles vaccine is sterilizing.
ONLY A STERILIZING VACCINE IS SAFE TO USE ON A MASS POPULATION BASIS WHEN A PARTICULAR PATHOGEN IS CIRCULATING IN THE ENVIRONMENT.
THIS IS NOT THEORY -- IT IS DECADES-OLD KNOWN MEDICAL FACT.
In addition natural infection with Covid-19 is sterilizing. Being infected and recovering conserves the nasal and respiratory mucosal response which is where the virus enters the body. Natural infection also conveys both "N" (nucleocapsid) and "S" (spike) antibody knowledge and T-cell recognition but the "N" knowledge is much stronger as coronaviruses have evolved to evade the immune system with the "S" portion through millions of years. This is why they can infect you in the first place. The "S" portion undergoes mutation at a quite-rapid rate while the "N" portion is conserved. It was thus expected that prior infection would lead to durable (years to decades) of resistance and indeed that's exactly what we have found thus far. Indeed in a small study it was found that this recognition extended to the bone marrow in a large percentage of cases and in those people is likely to confer decades-long if not lifetime protection. This is not true for "S" induced immunity as it wanes rapidly and, far worse that is where the mutation is taking place and thus where escape risk lies.
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Well, Duh. This Is Why It Was Stupid
I warned everyone.Now even CNN is on it, although they (like SAGE) think we're smarter than nature -- and evolution.They write that some variants that have emerged over the past few months 'show a reduced susceptibility to vaccine-acquired immunity, though none appears to escape entirely.'But tmarket-ticker.org
true.
Tibs is likely being cucked while hiding in the closet with the light out, under 4 blankets, using a penlight to find the keyboard on his laptop to tell us all how manly he is.
carry on, Tibs, carry on.
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Lots of projection here, Supe. I get it you're all little chicken ***** afraid of your own shadows. You like to play tough guy on an anonymous message board and talk a lot of ****. You guys are great with that. Nobody acts like kindergartners quite like you do. Now, if only you could find a way to bump up your IQ's a few notches, so you'd be able to carry on adult conversations. Boy, that would be something.
akshewallee, that woman is Canadian. a Canuck. Not an American.
another swing and miss by Tibs.
Several hundred protestors march in largest anti-mask rally to date in Vancouver
Currently, no law forces vaccinations or face masks on B.C. citizens
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are you requesting a physical confrontation to throw hands? seems you report stuff like that if it is directed at you. imma have to report this to Coolie.
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So you would trade a far less than 1% chance of death for a 100% chance of a loss of liberties?
Lunacy is saying I said 43M cases were misdiagnosed...unless you can point to where I did?
Lunacy is believing that a 99% reduction in flu cases is 100% due to masking and lockdowns.
Reality is the answer lies somewhere in between. We know factually without argument Covid deaths have been miscategorized. We know factually without argument the numbers on Covid deaths are not accurate. We know factually without argument that some flu tests give false findings regarding Covid. If some tests do, others may likely.
**** your liberties and mask up. even if you're in a closet, under 4 blankets, using a penlight to find your keyboard to tell the world how brave you are while you watch yourself being cucked through the slats in the closet door.