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Covid Vaccine

your question should be:

If the vaccines are effective, why did 23% die after being vaccinated?
If 90% of people wear seatbelts, but 53% of people killed in car accidents were wearing seatbelts, are seatbelts ineffective?

 
If 90% of people wear seatbelts, but 53% of people killed in car accidents were wearing seatbelts, are seatbelts ineffective?


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If 90% of people wear seatbelts, but 53% of people killed in car accidents were wearing seatbelts, are seatbelts ineffective?

Holy BidenShittingHisPants is that a stupid ******* comparison. I don't even need to look at the avatar of who regurgitated this pile of **** to know who it was.
 
"If sucking 1 dick gives you AIDS, then the other 9 are ok as long as the ratio is 90% safe"
/Flog

 
2020 - most people in Ireland are NOT vaccinated
2021 - Most people in Ireland ARE vaccinated - 90% of them. BBC Source

Covid numbers are DRASTICALLY higher this year in Ireland than last year DESPITE BEING 90% VACCINATED.

Lemme guess, you believe it's due to the delta variant rather than admit that the "vaccine" is doing jack **** right now because the efficacy has waned. Is the Delta variant a part of this? Yes. But you see it the way the MSM wants you to see it.

"beep do beep bop...MSM tell me delta kills...vaccine will stop it for good...vaccine safe...unvaccinated people stupid and selfish...Beep do Beep bop"
Ireland’s case and death rates are a small fraction of West Virginia’s where most people are not vaccinated. What’s your explanation for that?
 
"If sucking 1 dick gives you AIDS, then the other 9 are ok as long as the ratio is 90% safe"
/Flog


You’re almost as bad as Tim talking about mutilating the genitals of children. What the **** goes through your heads?
 
Yes, I know. 23% of the deaths were vaccinated (63% of population), so the inverse 77% were unvaccinated (37% of the population). If the vaccines aren’t effective why weren’t close to 63% of the deaths vaccinated?

You've been reduced to splitting hairs.

If someone proved to you that 60% of the deaths were among the vaccinated, you'd say "See it protected 40% of people."

When the Gubmint tells you the vaccines are 90+% effective in reducing serious illness and death, and nearly 25% of your deaths are among the vaxed, someone be lying.

These vaccines are the worst main-stream vaccines provided to mankind and fall incredibly short of their promise.
 
What’s your point in comparing years? 2021 does not equal “vaccinated”. There are still many unvaccinated people dying of Covid.

LMAO. You are seriously hopeless. We have two control groups. Last year compared to this year. Last year we had no one vaccinated. This year, by today, we are nearly 3/4s vaxed.

If the vaccines were making a difference, deaths would not be greater this year (a vaccinated year) than last year (an unvaccinated year). Cases would not be greater.

I know it's hard to fathom, but when they do trials of medicines, they look to different groups to compare results. When you administer a drug and the results show no improvement, you typically redesign or abandon the drug.

Vaccines abound. Deaths surpassed last year.

A hell of an indictment.
 
Ireland’s case and death rates are a small fraction of West Virginia’s where most people are not vaccinated. What’s your explanation for that?

South Dakota's current death rate is 0.3/100K. Zero growth in deaths in 7 days. Only 53% vaxed
Missouri's current death rate is 0.2/100K. A drop of 6% in deaths in 7 days. Only 50% vaxed

Maine's current death rate is 0.5/100K. 75% increase in deaths in 7 days. 70% vaxed.
Vermont's current death rate is 0.3/100K. A 100% increase in deaths in 7 days. 71.3% vaxed.

What's your explanation for that?

It's almost as if....(finish the sentence Floggy)
 
Ireland’s case and death rates are a small fraction of West Virginia’s where most people are not vaccinated. What’s your explanation for that?
No, No, No...Stay on topic. We aren't talking about West Virginia but I will engage you about it once we've concluded with Ireland. You need to explain why the cases are up 280% with a 90% vaccination rate in that country.
 
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The Republic of Ireland has vaccinated 91% of its population for COVID-19, the highest rate in the European Union, but the nation now has the highest number of patients hospitalized for the disease since March.

And the cases will increase until there is a "transmission-blocking vaccine," because the efficacy of the current shots is waning, said Dr. Anne Moore, a vaccine specialist at University College Cork, the Irish Times reported.

A yearlong, peer-reviewed study published this week in the prestigious British science journal The Lancet found people vaccinated against COVID-19 are as likely to spread the delta variant to contacts in their household as those who have not been vaccinated.

The Irish Times reported Waterford city, with 99.7% of the adult population fully vaccinated, has the highest rate of COVID 19 infection in Ireland.
 
You need to explain why the cases are up 280% with a 90% vaccination rate in that country.

That's like asking a scorpion not to sting something. Not gonna happen.
 
We know what Flogged did for Halloween:




Couldn't just turn off the lights and act as if no one was home, had to virtue signal.
 
Long read, but good info. Basically it says, immunity after infection is long lasting and varies among different people. Immunity after vaccine ....drumroll...is long-lasting and varies among different people.

The only real demonstrable advantage is antibody levels seem more uniformly high after vaccination, but there is no good data to show what the actual differences are in terms pf likelihood of being infected after either. Because no one is actually studying rates of reinfection among those who were previously infected and not vaxxed. Especially those who were not severely ill or were asymptomatic.

 
Good lord, didn't even see that one, that's downright scary. If this is the case, they better cancel Black Friday and everything else where people touch/exchange things.
 
Good lord, didn't even see that one, that's downright scary. If this is the case, they better cancel Black Friday and everything else where people touch/exchange things.
She literally thinks it's cute to tell her kid he's a Stormtrooper forcing people to get vaccinations.
 
The only real demonstrable advantage is antibody levels seem more uniformly high after vaccination, but there is no good data to show what the actual differences are in terms pf likelihood of being infected after either.

2nd hop friends of mine (friends of friends) are medical reps (married, both work for different medical companies). They both volunteered for the vaccines early as a part of the vax study. She did Pfizer he did Moderna. Same times for first and second doses. When they tested for antibodies, they had none.

Literally...no antibodies.
 
She literally thinks it's cute to tell her kid he's a Stormtrooper forcing people to get vaccinations.

This mentality scares me. Like downright, scares the **** out of me. People like this have the same mentality of those who attended the Colosseum in Greece and cheered people being eaten by lions, or people who cheered burning witches, or people who showed up for public executions in old England.
 
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When the pandemic hit, America needed someone to turn to for advice. The media and public naturally looked to Dr. Anthony Fauci—the director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, an esteemed laboratory immunologist and one of President Donald Trump's chosen COVID advisers. Unfortunately, Dr. Fauci got major epidemiology and public health questions wrong. Reality and scientific studies have now caught up with him.

Here are the key issues:

Natural immunity. By pushing vaccine mandates, Dr. Fauci ignores naturally acquired immunity among the COVID-recovered, of which there are more than 45 million in the United States. Mounting evidence indicates that natural immunity is stronger and longer lasting than vaccine-induced immunity. In a study from Israel, the vaccinated were 27 times more likely to get symptomatic COVID than the unvaccinated who had recovered from a prior infection.

We have known about natural immunity from disease at least since the Athenian Plague in 430 BC. Pilots, truckers and longshoremen know about it, and nurses know it better than anyone. Under Fauci's mandates, hospitals are firing heroic nurses who recovered from COVID they contracted while caring for patients. With their superior immunity, they can safely care for the oldest and frailest patients with even lower transmission risk than the vaccinated.

Protecting the elderly. While anyone can get infected, there is more than a thousand-fold difference in mortality risk between the old and the young. After more than 700,000 reported COVID deaths in America, we now know that lockdowns failed to protect high-risk older people. When confronted with the idea of focused protection of the vulnerable, Dr. Fauci admitted he had no idea how to accomplish it, arguing that it would be impossible. That may be understandable for a lab scientist, but public health scientists have presented many concrete suggestions that would have helped, had Fauci and other officials not ignored them.

What can we do now to minimize COVID mortality? Current vaccination efforts should focus on reaching people over 60 who are neither COVID-recovered nor vaccinated, including hard-to-reach, less-affluent people in rural areas and inner cities. Instead, Dr. Fauci has pushed vaccine mandates for children, students and working-age adults who are already immune—all low-risk populations—causing tremendous disruption to labor markets and hampering the operation of many hospitals.


School closures. Schools are major transmission points for influenza, but not for COVID. While children do get infected, their risk for COVID death is minuscule, lower than their already low risk of dying from the flu. Throughout the 2020 spring wave, Sweden kept daycare and schools open for all its 1.8 million children ages 1 to 15, with no masks, testing or social distancing. The result? Zero COVID deaths among children and a COVID risk to teachers lower than the average of other professions. In fall 2020, most European countries followed suit, with similar results. Considering the devastating effects of school closures on children, Dr. Fauci's advocacy for school closures may be the single biggest mistake of his career.

Masks.
The gold standard of medical research is randomized trials, and there have now been two on COVID masks for adults. For children, there is no solid scientific evidence that masks work. A Danish study found no statistically significant difference between masking and not masking when it came to coronavirus infection. In a study in Bangladesh, the 95 percent confidence interval showed that masks reduced transmission between 0 percent and 18 percent. Hence, masks are either of zero or limited benefit. There are many more critical pandemic measures that Dr. Fauci could have emphasized, such as better ventilation in schools and hiring nursing home staff with natural immunity.

Contact tracing. For some infectious diseases, such as Ebola and syphilis, contact tracing is critically important. For a commonly circulating viral infection such as COVID, it was a hopeless waste of valuable public health resources that did not stop the disease.
 
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